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Re: [IC-7000] IC-7000 / RT Systems software


Alex Netherton
 

I did not say the price of their software was unreasonable, but a bit expensive, since you have to buy the cable too. I have learned that in the software game, there is no reasoning for price. Also, please do not try and school me on Capitalism. Talk to The Pope.

That said, their software works as advertized, and works well. There is other software out there that is freeware or GNU and is not tied to a cable or chip. Some may work as well, I do not know.

They may have a warning on their website about this incompatibility, but on websites of their sellers, there is no warning; you get the software, and it will not install or start due to the wrong cable. Then you have to go back and buy the cable, incurring more s&h charges. Many Hams like to build their own cables, and often cables (FTDI chip) can be bought off Ebay for peanuts, and FTDI chip cables are the cable everybody says to buy, not Prolific, which is the chip RT uses.

Just annoyances, and for the price, not too bad a deal. I have the software (and cables, *sigh*) for every radio in my home, an FT-950, an FT-7100M, an IC-7K, a VX-6 and VX-7. Having spent over $200.00, I feel I have a small right to gripe, I think.

Alex, KC4BO

Alex Netherton


On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 8:45 PM, James F. Boehner MD <jboehner01@...> wrote:
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To All,

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I know the producers of the RT systems software.? The pricing on their software is very reasonable, as well as their cables.

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I realize international sales of their cables may be somewhat challenging, with shipping and customs charges.

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If you were the producer of the software, would you want to receive endless calls about problems with their software not working, while using generic cables, possibly with counterfeit drivers?

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They are ¡°up front¡± saying that their software will only work with their cables.? It MAY work with other cables, but not guaranteed.

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To have the most seamless experience, order their package with cables.? If you want to experiment, that is fine-but don¡¯t hold them responsible for unsupported cables.

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¡¯73 de JIM N2ZZ

Ic7000 listowner

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From: ic7000@... [mailto:ic7000@...] On Behalf Of ve5kc@...
Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 7:15 PM
To: ic7000@...


Subject: Re: [IC-7000] IC-7000 / RT Systems software

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I asked this question about the interface cable because they are selling the program separate, without a cable. Better yet for non US OPs, it can be bought as a digital download. (no shipping, customs etc.) Having to buy the program with a cable, the cost goes up fast with shipping and customs charges.?


RT systems sells their software for the IC-7100 separate, without the cable (digital download) In this case, they say it it will work with the USB cable supplied with the radio. This will exellent and is a good buy considering all the D-Star stuff it can also handle..

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Their software it is protect in that it requires a serial number or some form of activation, as far as I know. Were not talking about stealing the program, only discussing the cable to connect the radio to computer. Protecting their interests is one thing but forcing you buy a cable when they could have used a standard CIV cable, that's another thing. The connection to the radio has to be Icom CIV, so what else have they changed so you need their cable??

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Also, you can back up the CD (for your on archival use) but you may require a special program. The same kinds of programs are used to back up game CDs..

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73.. Ken - VE5KC

---In ic7000@{{emailDomain}}, <ham.4x1uf@...> wrote:

I am not working for RT systems but I do know that a lot of manpower in
term of time are invested to write such programs and its only natural they
want to protect it, so they use special cable, they make sure you can't
copy their CD (although I'd love to have a backup).

*[image: *
*73,*
*Izzy 4X1UF*


*Extra Class, Active ham since October 1964, QCWA # 35058, member of SKCC, *
*mail: ham.4x1uf@... <ham.4x1uf@...>, Skype: ham4x1uf*


On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Alex Netherton <anetherton@...>wrote:

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> The RT System software is made for the 7k and it only works with its own
> cable. Don't know why. I have not found any software that works as well.
> You may be able to make a cable yourself but RT won't like it. It makes
> life so much better. Worth the price.
> 73 de kc4bo
> On Dec 22, 2013 1:53 PM, <ve5kc@...> wrote:
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>> Anyone know what's so special about the RT Systems programing cable?
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>> Has anyone tried using a USB CIV cable?
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>> The software price is not bad, when bought as a digital download, no
>> shipping required.. but it says "
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>> *Works only with the RT Systems USB-RTS01 cable" 73.. Ken - VE5KC *
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