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Re: Interesting Podcast to Listen To: ObamaCare Invades Your Personal Life
edward_berkline
So your argument is that it is ok to make it inconvenient and difficult to register to vote and disenfranchise voters so long as those votes wouldn't make a difference in the outcome of the election? Something that can't be known with 100% certainty in advance!
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Shouldn't the policy be that no citizen, no matter what party, should not be disenfranchised and should be allowed to register to vote with no unnecessary roadblocks? Oh, I know, next you'll argue that the massive degree of voter fraud makes this necessary. But the truth is, the actual level of voter fraud is far, far below the level of being significant. --- In ibmpensionissues@..., "zimowski@..." <zimowski@...> wrote:
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Re: Interesting Podcast to Listen To: ObamaCare Invades Your Personal Life
It is possible to convince me that my view on something may be incorrect. Arguments that teach me something new and that support the point being made will have the best chance of success.
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As far as Texas is concerned, I stand by the statement I made. Most rural Texans are Republican. If, in fact, a few rural Texans were unable to vote in the 2012 presidential election due to burdensome voter id laws, then I seriously doubt that these uncast votes if cast for Obama would have made any difference at all. From the wikipedia web site: ,_2012 "Mitt Romney won the state of Texas with 57.17%, over Barack Obama's 41.38%. As in past elections, President Obama and the Democrats won in major metropolitan areas such as Austin, Dallas, San Antonio, and Houston, but Republicans were able to overwhelm the urban vote by sweeping the vast rural areas and suburbs of Texas by large margins." Take a look at the pictorial county by county results and draw your own conclusions: --- In ibmpensionissues@..., edward_berkline <no_reply@...> wrote:
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Re: Interesting Podcast to Listen To: ObamaCare Invades Your Personal Life
edward_berkline
It's pretty clear that you aren't receptive to any arguments, Mel.
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Re: Fed. Lawmakers & Staffies Freak Over ACA
pawnedmyrolex
Video of the Day:
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IRS chief Daniel Werfel says he wants to keep his health care plan, not switch to Obamacare Maybe, his testimony today could be career-limiting as acting commissioner of the IRS. --- In ibmpensionissues@..., edward_berkline <no_reply@...> wrote:
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Re: The Inequality President
weinerisnospitzer
HA!??
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Let's all share how government has fixed your most recent social problem! The politics of Washington Monthly are . Founder Charles Peters refers to himself as a Democrat and advocates the effective use of government to address social problems.? ref:? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Monthly Publisher Diane Straus Tucker worked with wacko ? at the DNC.????? <<<===(Watch last 4 seconds) --- In ibmpensionissues@..., Sheila Beaudry wrote: > > Lots of hope and change for me. > http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/march_april_2012/features/obamas_top_50_accomplishments035755.php?page=all |
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Re: Insurance incentives: to support a healthy lifestyle (corrected)
Sheila Beaudry
Also the Blue Medicare HMO includes Silver Sneakers program.
From: buckwildbeemer To: ibmpensionissues@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 2:00 PM Subject: [ibmpensionissues] Insurance incentives: to support a healthy lifestyle (corrected) ?
Insurance Incentives:There are also incentives and programs through many insurance companies to help you stick to your healthy lifestyle!
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Re: The Inequality President
Sheila Beaudry
Lots of hope and change for me.
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To: ibmpensionissues@... Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:02 PM Subject: [ibmpensionissues] Re: The Inequality President ?
--- In mailto:ibmpensionissues%40yahoogroups.com, edward_berkline wrote: > > > Still not interested in how Obama compares to previous presidents. > > It's not relevant, ... > > And yet, you are the one who brought up the record of previous presidents by quoting the article from the Washington Times that compared Obama to Reagan! > > Your better get your story straight, Mel. You're making yourself look foolish. > I just copied a section from the article referenced by the post I was responding to. For me the import of the copied material were the Obama numbers, not the Reagan numbers. I was just too lazy to delete them. Feel free to compare Obama to anyone you choose. Still not relevant because doing so doesn't change his numbers. I'm still looking for some of the "hope and change" we were all promised. > As to Obama inciting violence, here is a quote from his speech after the Zimmerman verdict: > > "Now, the question for me at least, and I think for a lot of folks, is where do we take this? How do we learn some lessons from this and move in a positive direction? I think it's understandable that there have been demonstrations and vigils and protests, and some of that stuff is just going to have to work its way through, as long as it remains nonviolent. If I see any violence, then I will remind folks that that dishonors what happened to Trayvon Martin and his family. But beyond protests or vigils, the question is, are there some concrete things that we might be able to do." > > Please explain how you think that this incites violence. What you quote is only part of his speech. Here's the part that just proceeds what you've quoted: "You know, when Trayvon Martin was first shot I said that this could have been my son. Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago. And when you think about why, in the African American community at least, there's a lot of pain around what happened here, I think it's important to recognize that the African American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that doesn't go away. There are very few African American men in this country who haven't had the experience of being followed when they were shopping in a department store. That includes me. There are very few African American men who haven't had the experience of walking across the street and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars. That happens to me -- at least before I was a senator. There are very few African Americans who haven't had the experience of getting on an elevator and a woman clutching her purse nervously and holding her breath until she had a chance to get off. That happens often. And I don't want to exaggerate this, but those sets of experiences inform how the African American community interprets what happened one night in Florida. And it's inescapable for people to bring those experiences to bear. The African American community is also knowledgeable that there is a history of racial disparities in the application of our criminal laws -- everything from the death penalty to enforcement of our drug laws. And that ends up having an impact in terms of how people interpret the case. Now, this isn't to say that the African American community is na?ve about the fact that African American young men are disproportionately involved in the criminal justice system; that they're disproportionately both victims and perpetrators of violence. It's not to make excuses for that fact -- although black folks do interpret the reasons for that in a historical context. They understand that some of the violence that takes place in poor black neighborhoods around the country is born out of a very violent past in this country, and that the poverty and dysfunction that we see in those communities can be traced to a very difficult history. And so the fact that sometimes that's unacknowledged adds to the frustration. And the fact that a lot of African American boys are painted with a broad brush and the excuse is given, well, there are these statistics out there that show that African American boys are more violent -- using that as an excuse to then see sons treated differently causes pain. I think the African American community is also not na?ve in understanding that, statistically, somebody like Trayvon Martin was statistically more likely to be shot by a peer than he was by somebody else. So folks understand the challenges that exist for African American boys. But they get frustrated, I think, if they feel that there's no context for it and that context is being denied. And that all contributes I think to a sense that if a white male teen was involved in the same kind of scenario, that, from top to bottom, both the outcome and the aftermath might have been different." For emphasis, let me repeat the part that I view as being the most inciting: "And that all contributes I think to a sense that if a white male teen was involved in the same kind of scenario, that, from top to bottom, both the outcome and the aftermath might have been different." I don't understand why the President of the United States felt compelled to say anything about this to begin with. He surely must have realized what effect his comments would have on the black community. > > You've told us all what a wonderful life you have. And you're disappointed that Obama has squandered (in your opinion) his opportunity to improve things for blacks. And yet you are complaining that Obama hasn't done anything to improve YOUR life! So, do you want him to focus on improving things for the people who need it most, or just you? Again, you are being very inconsistent. Not being inconsistent. Isn't it possible that he could improve the lives of all Americans? I know that's not his focus, but I think it should be. > > --- In mailto:ibmpensionissues%40yahoogroups.com, "zimowski@" wrote: > > > > Still not interested in how Obama compares to previous presidents. It's not relevant, because past presidents, especially deceased ones, are no longer in the position that Obama is in to make a difference. > > > > Let me give you an example of how I think Obama has incited racial discord and violence. There are many things he could have said and done following both the shooting of Trayvon Martin and the verdict in the George Zimmerman case. He chose to make comments that energized the racial divide in this country and that I believe incited and emboldened some within the black community (e.g. in Oakland, CA) to break windows and destroy the property of those who had nothing to do with what happened in Florida. > > > > I am so disappointed by what Obama has achieved as president, I view him as the president of no Americans. He has achieved little and I can not point to a single thing he has done that has improved my life. In fact, he has achieved just the opposite. As the recent polls suggest, this is not an isolated view. > > > |
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Re: Today's Free Deal for Retirees, Pensioners
icarlosdanger
Nope, my money for now is here:
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Amazon is incredible for sure. --- In ibmpensionissues@..., "zimowski@..." <zimowski@...> wrote:
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Re: Today's Free Deal for Retirees, Pensioners
Free books, who would have guessed? Are you lucky enough to be an Amazon shareholder?
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Today's Free Deal for Retirees, Pensioners
icarlosdanger
For those on fixed income, free Amazon Kindle stuff is cool.
Read reviews at before ordering! It may be a waste of seven minutes for some. Not sure what Amazon stock price will do on Monday. Approx. 63,000 more free Kindle items: Thanks to an earlier post, I found these deals for those who don't have a Kindle, My weekend FREE read: |
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Re: it's that time of the month?
The reason that it 'happens' is that IBM mgmt looks at the impact of inflation on your pension. ?You should keep in mind that pensions are fixed sums that are established, at your point of retirement. Now comes the Like It, Love It, or Leave It, part. ? When your particular time period of Vested Pensions, happen to have suffered unduly from economic hardships, such as inflation. ?Then and only maybe, their might be an upward adjustment to your Vested
Pension. My personal experience, in 23 years of IBM retirement is, one measureable increase, one dribble, and one letter. ?? So what might be the best. ?If you are going to live a long life,,, there is ONLY one
thing to do,,, defer SS Income as long as possible. My SS today is coming close to approximating my IBM monthly pension, at time of retirement it was less than ONE THIRD!!!!!? I hope this might help at least one person.
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Re: The Inequality President
Fine, but as of September 2011: "Black Unemployment: Highest is 27 years". Just where is all that "hope and change"? And what about the full-time, high paying jobs?
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Re: The Inequality President
--- In ibmpensionissues@..., edward_berkline <no_reply@...> wrote:
I just copied a section from the article referenced by the post I was responding to. For me the import of the copied material were the Obama numbers, not the Reagan numbers. I was just too lazy to delete them. Feel free to compare Obama to anyone you choose. Still not relevant because doing so doesn't change his numbers. I'm still looking for some of the "hope and change" we were all promised.Still not interested in how Obama compares to previous presidents.And yet, you are the one who brought up the record of previous presidents by quoting the article from the Washington Times that compared Obama to Reagan! As to Obama inciting violence, here is a quote from his speech after the Zimmerman verdict:What you quote is only part of his speech. Here's the part that just proceeds what you've quoted: "You know, when Trayvon Martin was first shot I said that this could have been my son. Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago. And when you think about why, in the African American community at least, there's a lot of pain around what happened here, I think it's important to recognize that the African American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that doesn't go away. There are very few African American men in this country who haven't had the experience of being followed when they were shopping in a department store. That includes me. There are very few African American men who haven't had the experience of walking across the street and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars. That happens to me -- at least before I was a senator. There are very few African Americans who haven't had the experience of getting on an elevator and a woman clutching her purse nervously and holding her breath until she had a chance to get off. That happens often. And I don't want to exaggerate this, but those sets of experiences inform how the African American community interprets what happened one night in Florida. And it's inescapable for people to bring those experiences to bear. The African American community is also knowledgeable that there is a history of racial disparities in the application of our criminal laws -- everything from the death penalty to enforcement of our drug laws. And that ends up having an impact in terms of how people interpret the case. Now, this isn't to say that the African American community is na?ve about the fact that African American young men are disproportionately involved in the criminal justice system; that they're disproportionately both victims and perpetrators of violence. It's not to make excuses for that fact -- although black folks do interpret the reasons for that in a historical context. They understand that some of the violence that takes place in poor black neighborhoods around the country is born out of a very violent past in this country, and that the poverty and dysfunction that we see in those communities can be traced to a very difficult history. And so the fact that sometimes that's unacknowledged adds to the frustration. And the fact that a lot of African American boys are painted with a broad brush and the excuse is given, well, there are these statistics out there that show that African American boys are more violent -- using that as an excuse to then see sons treated differently causes pain. I think the African American community is also not na?ve in understanding that, statistically, somebody like Trayvon Martin was statistically more likely to be shot by a peer than he was by somebody else. So folks understand the challenges that exist for African American boys. But they get frustrated, I think, if they feel that there's no context for it and that context is being denied. And that all contributes I think to a sense that if a white male teen was involved in the same kind of scenario, that, from top to bottom, both the outcome and the aftermath might have been different." For emphasis, let me repeat the part that I view as being the most inciting: "And that all contributes I think to a sense that if a white male teen was involved in the same kind of scenario, that, from top to bottom, both the outcome and the aftermath might have been different." I don't understand why the President of the United States felt compelled to say anything about this to begin with. He surely must have realized what effect his comments would have on the black community. Not being inconsistent. Isn't it possible that he could improve the lives of all Americans? I know that's not his focus, but I think it should be.
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Re: The Inequality President
edward_berkline
If you look at the graph, you can see that the black unemployment rate was higher in the 1980's than it has been under Obama. You can read graphs, can't you?
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And if you actually read the article you linked to, you will see that it says "Black Unemployment: Highest is 27 years" which only looks at the data back to 1984, and doesn't include 1983, when black unemployment peaked at almost 21%. You're looking pretty foolish, Carlos. Is the picture racist? No. But it appears that you are. --- In ibmpensionissues@..., icarlosdanger <no_reply@...> wrote:
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Re: The Inequality President
icarlosdanger
Eddie, Ladies:
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They're harvesting email addresses! --- In ibmpensionissues@..., edward_berkline
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Re: The Inequality President
edward_berkline
Still not interested in how Obama compares to previous presidents.And yet, you are the one who brought up the record of previous presidents by quoting the article from the Washington Times that compared Obama to Reagan! Your better get your story straight, Mel. You're making yourself look foolish. As to Obama inciting violence, here is a quote from his speech after the Zimmerman verdict: "Now, the question for me at least, and I think for a lot of folks, is where do we take this? How do we learn some lessons from this and move in a positive direction? I think it's understandable that there have been demonstrations and vigils and protests, and some of that stuff is just going to have to work its way through, as long as it remains nonviolent. If I see any violence, then I will remind folks that that dishonors what happened to Trayvon Martin and his family. But beyond protests or vigils, the question is, are there some concrete things that we might be able to do." Please explain how you think that this incites violence. You've told us all what a wonderful life you have. And you're disappointed that Obama has squandered (in your opinion) his opportunity to improve things for blacks. And yet you are complaining that Obama hasn't done anything to improve YOUR life! So, do you want him to focus on improving things for the people who need it most, or just you? Again, you are being very inconsistent. --- In ibmpensionissues@..., "zimowski@..." <zimowski@...> wrote:
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Re: Historial Facts vs Rants vs Re-writing History
Nice presidential photo...
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Re: Historial Facts vs Rants vs Re-writing History
icarlosdanger
R-E-S-P-E-C-T ... Aretha
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Re: The Inequality President
Still not interested in how Obama compares to previous presidents. It's not relevant, because past presidents, especially deceased ones, are no longer in the position that Obama is in to make a difference.
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Let me give you an example of how I think Obama has incited racial discord and violence. There are many things he could have said and done following both the shooting of Trayvon Martin and the verdict in the George Zimmerman case. He chose to make comments that energized the racial divide in this country and that I believe incited and emboldened some within the black community (e.g. in Oakland, CA) to break windows and destroy the property of those who had nothing to do with what happened in Florida. I am so disappointed by what Obama has achieved as president, I view him as the president of no Americans. He has achieved little and I can not point to a single thing he has done that has improved my life. In fact, he has achieved just the opposite. As the recent polls suggest, this is not an isolated view. --- In ibmpensionissues@..., edward_berkline <no_reply@...> wrote:
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Re: The Inequality President
icarlosdanger
Hey Eddie,
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That really takes the cake. Quick, get outside from parent's basement and get some sun & exercise! Speaking of cakes, Eddie--is this cake racist? --- In ibmpensionissues@..., edward_berkline <no_reply@...> wrote:
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