Thanks for the file upoad!

I have an old copy that I have uploaded to the files section of this group.? I'm not sure if this is the latest version or not.? The time stamp on the extracted files are from 2003.

I do not know where you can find it. Your best bet is to go to the 2 retiree groups on Facebook and ask about it there.

facebook.com/groups/62822320855/? Has 11,524 members.
facebook.com/groups/ibmretiree/ Has 1,332 members.

This spreadsheet file used to be in the Files section of the old Yahoo? group.... any idea where I can find it??? Thanks

On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 02:26 PM, netmouse wrote:

Is it true that in the old Yahoo group, you cannot see messages anymore?? Only create an email, subscribe or unsubscribe?? ?So 100% by email to your device.? And no way to see history any more?

Yes, you got it right.

Is it true that in the old Yahoo group, you cannot see messages anymore?? Only create an email, subscribe or unsubscribe?? ?So 100% by email to your device.? And no way to see history any more?

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I just signed up for a Plan D policy for next year, so it is also working fine for me.

"Never attribute to malice, that which can be reasonably explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razer

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Are you still having trouble getting in? I tried just now, and had no problems.

Are you aware there is a groups.io forum for VIA Benefits questions? See [email protected].

Tim
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Maybe their system is overloaded.

Two-factor verification code text message not reaching my phone.

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I have not tried every day, but three times over a couple of weeks I've had this failure.

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[ BTW - I've already committed a Part D plan, so it's not an emergency~! ]

There just doesn't seem to be all that much that people want to discuss about IBM pensions these days.? The Yahoo group was pretty dead, too, until just recently when Yahoo announced that they were cutting the level of services they provide for groups.? The start of medical plan enrollment has also cause an uptick in activity.? But that will quiet down in a few weeks.

Why no activity here?

In December 2018 the government shutdown caused a drop in the stock market.
Among other effects this lowered the balance in my IRA on January first 2019
SO my RMD was less~! Ha~!

The market recovered over time, but my Required Minimum Distribution had already been determined.
Now year end is coming up again, and I'm calling on ya, Trump~!?
Do this "tax cut" for us old gray-haired seniors!

amphi_sc,

Thanks for your candid remembrance. I vaguely remember iggy, but I'm pretty certain that primosprimosprimos was my primary attacker. Kathy Cooper, and whoever else was moderating in 2014, was way out of line, IMO. Too much authoritarian censorship, based on personal opinions, which were not stated in the forum posting rules.

My first post here was sort of a "test post" too. I want an alternative IBM retiree discussion forum, in case Verizon decides to shut down non-profitable Yahoo forums.

Perhaps you were remembering "Iggy". ?A part of me says to forget all that historical noise, but it was interesting from the sidelines. ?A few of my posts got filtered out over there too, and I was never a manager. I have no pension issues and will most likely be a silent listener until something I can contribute on. ?Consider this as my "test post" of joining the group for the free flow of information.

I would have posted this on the Yahoo forum, but am unable to do so. I think I voluntarily exited from the group.

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Kathy, you claimed, in a earlier post (seems to have been removed), that people didn't stop participating in this forum, because of moderation. That's bullshit. It's the sole reason I stopped.

I happened to have many management jobs in my IBM career. I was relentlessly attacked by a woman (and several others) because I had been a manager. The attacks had nothing to do with any thing I posted, it was because I had been an IBM manager. A classic example of bigotry. I don't remember the woman's handle, but she frequently added a long string of laughing icons to her posts. Although I found it irritating, that is not why I left. I left because of an increasing number of my posts were removed by moderator(s). Not once was there an explanation.

Kathi Cooper did a great job overcoming one of IBM's illegal efforts to wiggle out of its commitments to former employees like us. But unless IBM tries to reduce the pensions that we have earned, there is no reason for any more battles.

I've never spoken with Ron Linton, or corresponded with him. He's done much more to help retired IBMers than almost any of us. He's not a demon.

My reading of the tea leaves is that Yahoo groups are being phased out, because Verizon doesn't find them profitable. I suspect that removing the ability to store files for a group is phase 1, and that phase 2 will be selling Yahoo groups to another company.

I joined the OneExchange and Pension groups in groups.io today, and I encourage others to do so too.

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Update - I just discovered that I had a log entry about my decision to stop contributing to the IBM. Here is a verbatim copy:

"10:34 AM 9/19/2014 I noticed my 3rd attempt to respond was again silently censored. And there was a (an unrepentant) post by primosprimosprimos. So I decided to leave the IBMPension Yahoo group. The leaving process did not ask for feedback (although I did have my Adblock turned on). No matter, that forum has just become a waste of my time. My reason is: primosprimosprimos repeatedly denigrates all ex-IBM managers as a group because they belong to a group defined as ex-IBM managers. There is a simple term to define that kind of thought pattern and behavior. It is called bigotry. I defended a self-professed ex-manager who asserted he was innocent of the despicable behavior primosprimosprimos was accusing him of. My reward was a personal attack: "notice how all the managers ooze out from under the rocks when their secret handshake deals are revealed? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.". I tried to respond to her attack more than once, and all attempts were censored."