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DIY Toaster Reflow oven


 

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1k to 10k is common, ?for relays?


On Jun 5, 2020, at 3:56 PM, Steven Dick <sbdick@...> wrote:

Does anyone have a feel for the maximum update rate is that would be required to drive a standard contactor/relay from a pid controller interfacing to a toaster oven?
Thanks, Steve K1RF


 

You do not want to use a relay (EMI), but an SSR with crossover detection, also called zero voltage switch. I? use my own PWM method by enabling X periods over a one thousand period timeframe. 1000 periods at 60 hertz is less than 20 seconds, so I can finely tune the temperature ramp in real time.
If your heater was much faster, you could reduce the timeframe to 100 periods but that cause other concerns.

Just my few cents worth.

Jean-Paul?
N1JPL?



 

Thanks.? By the way, I just ordered a reflow controller from Rocket Scream who just got theswe back in stock. A lot of bang for the buck.
Full schematic, design files, user manual available.



-Steve K1RF




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Jim,

I originally used a Silicon Horizon reflow oven controller board which cost around $75. I tested it and then put it up on a shelf until I got around to track down all the remaining parts to do the actual build. I bought via Amazon (its generally a crap-shoot regarding product quality in my opinion), a Black & Decker InfraWave 1200 Watt with crystal heating elements (exhibits shorter thermal inertia) instead of the iron heating elements. I hacked out all the guts and then lined the insides of the oven, between the inner and outer walls of it with high fibre-glass insulation sheeting, which I custom fit. Else ya can't touch the oven while it is operating. My unit is cool to the touch, even during 36 hour component baking periods. When I got the controller down, it worked three times and failed. I contacted the company and it had gone out of business. The schematics & source code had been promised to be on the CD shipped with the controller, but alas was not. So I reversed engineered the hardware and fixed it and in the mean time I acquired all of the source code from other users.

To make a long story short, I eventually replaced that controller with the following, excellent controller:


Depending on options it starts at $100 bucks, for the controller and the display screen. It works very well and I've used it for many projects over the past 7 years or so.

What ever you do, be sure to acquire the oven with an internal fan. The B&D Infrawave does not have one internal, so I had to mount a small blower on the outside. Also the 'gold' thermal reflection tape really makes a difference in the internal thermal cavity stability.

Best Regards

tron nee

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