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[hammond_zone] Screw
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Ron Bell
Here is the instructions,
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If you overdrive your Leslie too much you will fry the treble driver, distortion causes heat=fried voice coil!!! A small amount of overdrive is O.K. John Lord used a marshall stack, Goldie from Stephan Wolf removed one of 6550's and unplugged the treble driver from the cross-over and ran everything through the woofer(not recomended). If you insint on lots of overdrive, wire a line out from your organ and run it to a guitar amp. Tom Coster from Santana ran 2 fender twins and 2 122's, the mix of the Leslie with the amps is an interesting sound if done right Ronnie. ----- Original Message -----
From: <zakemo@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Screw Hey, |
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daz
Hi Bob,
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(snipped from previous mail) I have used the following procedure myself in the past to produce excellent results. I was shown this procedure by a friend of mine who hired his C-3 to Keith Emerson when he came to the UK a few years ago. Keith liked it so much he wanted to buy it, Dave said NO WAY! She is my baby. I wrote the procedure down for future reference:- It works on the following organs with the AO-28 amp B-3 C-3 RT-3 A-100 M-3 Firstly select the A# (console models) key on the upper manual, set the drawbars to 80 8808 008. Expression pedal fully depressed. Turn vibrato and percussion OFF. If you use the pedals pull out the 16' to position 8. The preamp drive level is set by adjusting the trimmer capacitor that is behind a removable plug on the cover of the box containing the swell capacitor. The preamp should be set to fully clockwise to start with. Turn all the Leslie controls (volume) full up. This next step requires two people: One person should play a full 5 finger chord in the centre of the upper manual, and the bottom C of the pedals. The second person should now begin turning the trimmer counter clockwise NO MORE THAN ONE TURN. The organ should now be getting louder but not yet distorting. Turn further counter clockwise slowly until distortion starts. For the real dirty Hammond growl the final setting should be 1/8th of a turn more than the point where it starts to distort. DO NOT INCREASE TOO MUCH IT WILL CAUSE PROBLEMS! Mainly with overheating of the drivers. The final setting should be approximately 1-1.5 turns open on most organs. Now the test! If you have adjusted for maximum distortion at max volume, the distortion can be reduced by pushing in the drawbars slightly. The result should then be very clean sound but still very loud. When complete you will have distortion on demand by the drawbar levels!! No need for add-ons. Organs with the Trek-11 Preamp should be adjusted in the same way, but the drive level is adjusted with the volume pot attached to the expression pedal control arm. Simply loosen the screw and use a small screwdriver to turn the pot within the arm - DO NOT REMOVE THE ARM - all other adjustments are the same. Now sit down, play and bask in the nasty growling beast of a sound you have just created! HTH Daz. -----Original Message-----
From: zakemo@... [mailto:zakemo@...] Sent: 06 March 2002 18:42 To: hammond_zone@... Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Screw Hey, What screw are we talking about to increase growl? Bob Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to |
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Nick Renich
Mounted on the centre of the pre-amp is a small rectangular aluminium box
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about 4 inches by 3 inches. Remove the screws to reveal the volume control. At the top is a small slotted screw which you turn left to increase distortion or right to decrease it. Takes about 1 minute and the organ sounds like heaven. Actually it already sounded like heaven. ----- Original Message -----
From: <zakemo@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:42 AM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Screw Hey, |
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Ron Bell
You dont have to remove the screws, just the little round plug. It is a
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variabl capacitor not a volume controll, turn it all the way clockwise, this is the quietest setting, do not turn it more than two turns counter clockwise. If you screw it fight out it is a big pain to get it back in. And like I have already posted not to much overdrive or you will toast your V-21 and these are no longer made although I have heard the 100w ferro-fluid driver from Ham-Suz is a good replacement and can stand up to a little more overdrive. Cheers Ronnie ----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick Renich" <nrenich@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Screw Mounted on the centre of the pre-amp is a small rectangular aluminium boxcontrol. At the top is a small slotted screw which you turn left to increase |
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Laddie Williams
Ron.. which organ or speaker amp are you talking about.. Please, I have never been there and done that.
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From: Ron Bell To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Screw You dont have to remove the screws, just the little round plug. It is a variabl capacitor not a volume controll, turn it all the way clockwise, this is the quietest setting, do not turn it more than two turns counter clockwise. If you screw it fight out it is a big pain to get it back in. And like I have already posted not to much overdrive or you will toast your V-21 and these are no longer made although I have heard the 100w ferro-fluid driver from Ham-Suz is a good replacement and can stand up to a little more overdrive. Cheers Ronnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Renich" <nrenich@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Screw > Mounted on the centre of the pre-amp is a small rectangular aluminium box > about 4 inches by 3 inches. Remove the screws to reveal the volume control. > At the top is a small slotted screw which you turn left to increase > distortion or right to decrease it. Takes about 1 minute and the organ > sounds like heaven. Actually it already sounded like heaven. > ----- Original Message ----- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Ron Bell
The AO-29 in the M series including the M-100's, and the AO-28 in B-3, C-3,
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A-100, RT-3 and the D-100. I posted this earlier, this is detailed instructions on how to adjust it, Happy overdriving, Ron Bell. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Laddie Williams" <laddieray@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Screw Ron.. which organ or speaker amp are you talking about.. Please, I havenever been there and done that. ----- Original Message -----this is the quietest setting, do not turn it more than two turns counterAnd like I have already posted not to much overdrive or you will toast yourV-21 and these are no longer made although I have heard the 100w ferro-fluidmore overdrive.box > about 4 inches by 3 inches. Remove the screws to reveal the volume |
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Nick Renich
Hey Daz I did my adjustment yesterday and i can't believe the increase in
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both volume and distortion. And you are correct with regard to the registrations. I normally use 888800000 and this is heaven. Cut back to 666600000 and it's clean for a Whiter Shade Of Pale cleaner sound, but still bloody loud. ----- Original Message -----
From: "daz" <daz395@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:05 AM Subject: RE: [hammond_zone] Screw Hi Bob,excellent results. I was shown this procedure by a friend of mine who hired his C-3so much he wanted to buy it, Dave said NO WAY! She is my baby.NO MORE THAN ONE TURN. The organ should now be getting louder but not yetstarts. turn more than the point where it starts to distort.of the drivers.then be very clean sound but still very loud.No need for add-ons.pedal control arm. Simply loosen the screw and use a small screwdriver to turnhave just created! |
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Gandert De Boo
Ron,
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I have a L100. But why will the treble triver 'toast'? I understand I you put everything on full volume things go wrong. But it should be possible to make my l100 overdrive and set my leslie at house volume, right? Imean guitar sapeakers can handle (much) distortion too. Gandert ----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Bell To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:42 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Screw You dont have to remove the screws, just the little round plug. It is a variabl capacitor not a volume controll, turn it all the way clockwise, this is the quietest setting, do not turn it more than two turns counter clockwise. If you screw it fight out it is a big pain to get it back in. And like I have already posted not to much overdrive or you will toast your V-21 and these are no longer made although I have heard the 100w ferro-fluid driver from Ham-Suz is a good replacement and can stand up to a little more overdrive. Cheers Ronnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Renich" <nrenich@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Screw > Mounted on the centre of the pre-amp is a small rectangular aluminium box > about 4 inches by 3 inches. Remove the screws to reveal the volume control. > At the top is a small slotted screw which you turn left to increase > distortion or right to decrease it. Takes about 1 minute and the organ > sounds like heaven. Actually it already sounded like heaven. > ----- Original Message ----- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Ron Bell
I was talking about toasting the Jensen V-21 treble driver that is stock in
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the dual rotor Leslies. You wont be able to overdrive the Leslie at house volume, the Leslie has to be close to maximum volume for it to overdrive, even with the capacitor in the swell pedal set for overdrive. Are you thinking of overdriving the speakers in the L-100 and running the Leslie clean? I don't think that an L-100 has a cap in the swell pedal to adjust the gain, I could be wrong. I would check but there is too much crap infront of my L-102 to move it away from the wall. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gandert De Boo" <bottomline@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Screw Ron,put everything on full volume things go wrong. But it should be possible to make my l100 overdrive and set my leslie at house volume, right? Imean guitar sapeakers can handle (much) distortion too.
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Ron Bell
My pleasure Jeff,
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Are you enjoying the Leslie, its a big change from the internal speakers eh? Cheers, Ronnie Bell. ----- Original Message -----
From: <jlc7184@...> Thanks ronnie for that info.I was wondering why that plug was there. |
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Ron Bell
Right on!! Sounds like it was fun, what type of tunes is hey playing these
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days? Ronnie ----- Original Message -----
From: <jlc7184@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Screw Hey ronnie, |
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Gandert De Boo
Ron,
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What I meant was to overdrive the poweramp of my L100. Since my leslie (at this moment a 125) is connected to the power amp. This will also deliver the overdriven sound. But I hope in the near future to run my new760 the same way(tapped from the power amp. This way the poweramp will overdrive and with the volume conntrol on the 760 I'll be able to maintain home volumes. So there'll be no overdrive from the leslie at all. I hope like this the treble driver will be 'fried'. Gandert ----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Bell To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Screw I was talking about toasting the Jensen V-21 treble driver that is stock in the dual rotor Leslies. You wont be able to overdrive the Leslie at house volume, the Leslie has to be close to maximum volume for it to overdrive, even with the capacitor in the swell pedal set for overdrive. Are you thinking of overdriving the speakers in the L-100 and running the Leslie clean? I don't think that an L-100 has a cap in the swell pedal to adjust the gain, I could be wrong. I would check but there is too much crap infront of my L-102 to move it away from the wall. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gandert De Boo" <bottomline@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Screw > Ron, > > I have a L100. But why will the treble triver 'toast'? I understand I you put everything on full volume things go wrong. But it should be possible to make my l100 overdrive and set my leslie at house volume, right? Imean guitar sapeakers can handle (much) distortion too. > > Gandert Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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daz
Now you know why Emerson wanted Dave's!! BIG difference Eh. Glad to have
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helped. Daz -----Original Message-----
From: Nick Renich [mailto:nrenich@...] Sent: 07 March 2002 12:40 To: hammond_zone@... Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Screw Hey Daz I did my adjustment yesterday and i can't believe the increase in both volume and distortion. And you are correct with regard to the registrations. I normally use 888800000 and this is heaven. Cut back to 666600000 and it's clean for a Whiter Shade Of Pale cleaner sound, but still bloody loud. ----- Original Message ----- From: "daz" <daz395@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:05 AM Subject: RE: [hammond_zone] Screw Hi Bob,excellent results. I was shown this procedure by a friend of mine who hired his C-3so much he wanted to buy it, Dave said NO WAY! She is my baby.NO MORE THAN ONE TURN. The organ should now be getting louder but not yetstarts. turn more than the point where it starts to distort.of the drivers.then be very clean sound but still very loud.No need for add-ons.pedal control arm. Simply loosen the screw and use a small screwdriver to turnhave just created! Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to |
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