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[hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob
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Raul de Jalapeno
Casey
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I still think we should check out the patent for expiration then find us a Chicago man to hunt down the jigs and tools. I'll set up shop and build those suckers. I'm already in negotiations with a transformer engineer to wind high-quality iron for my amps, so why not a tonewheel manufactory? Raul ----- Original Message -----
From: kcbass1 To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 10:58 AM Subject: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob I understand the Hamm rep being rude a little bit, when people ask about my ex wife(B3), I get a little offended because I have a new wife(New B3). I`m just hoping he was referring "people like you" to mean hobbyist as opposed to being a institution. I think it`s us hobbyist that keeping interest in the darn thing alive. Hammond- Suzuki better wake up and smell the latte`. Don`t they know I would do just about anything for a one hundred pound B3 with tonewheels and tubes? Casey --- In hammond_zone@y..., zakemo@A... wrote: > Hey Casey, > Don't hold your breath for those tone wheels. The rep at NAMM was down > right rude when I jokingly asked about bringing back the tone wheels and > tubes. Made some comment to the effect, "If we did, how would people like you > be able to afford them?" Great PR! OHF Bob > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Ron Bell
Hi Randy,
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Have a look through the Hamtech Archives, I remember reading about the patents awhile ago, I also remember somthing about most of the tooling equipment beeing destroyed. I'll poke around the WWW and see what I can find. Cheers, Ron Bell. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Raul de Jalapeno" < CaseyChicago man to hunt down the jigs and tools. I'll set up shop and build those suckers. I'm already in negotiations with a transformer engineer to wind high-quality iron for my amps, so why not a tonewheel manufactory? |
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Laddie Williams
Okay Casey and all the rest of you guys..
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What do you think a B-3 that is still in the original carton should be worth. The carton has never been opened. I am very serious. It is for sale. I believe it was built in 1973. Serial number of the B-3 is 365127 If you can think of a serious buyer, please contact me. Laddie ----- Original Message -----
From: Raul de Jalapeno To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob Casey I still think we should check out the patent for expiration then find us a Chicago man to hunt down the jigs and tools. I'll set up shop and build those suckers. I'm already in negotiations with a transformer engineer to wind high-quality iron for my amps, so why not a tonewheel manufactory? Raul ----- Original Message ----- From: kcbass1 To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 10:58 AM Subject: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob I understand the Hamm rep being rude a little bit, when people ask about my ex wife(B3), I get a little offended because I have a new wife(New B3). I`m just hoping he was referring "people like you" to mean hobbyist as opposed to being a institution. I think it`s us hobbyist that keeping interest in the darn thing alive. Hammond- Suzuki better wake up and smell the latte`. Don`t they know I would do just about anything for a one hundred pound B3 with tonewheels and tubes? Casey --- In hammond_zone@y..., zakemo@A... wrote: > Hey Casey, > Don't hold your breath for those tone wheels. The rep at NAMM was down > right rude when I jokingly asked about bringing back the tone wheels and > tubes. Made some comment to the effect, "If we did, how would people like you > be able to afford them?" Great PR! OHF Bob > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Raul de Jalapeno
Thanks, Ron. Loss of the tooling is an inconvience more than anything. I know some of the zoners have been around a long time and have known some of the Hammond workers and engineers. A check of those remaining sources may turn up something also. Nonetheless, Ron, if I see the patents are clear, I just may take action to secure them then figure out how to put it together. It'll take many prople and lot's of work and it won't pay anything. But that's OK. It's about keeping parts alive for our rigs. I'll start searching. Thanks.
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Raul ----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Bell To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob Hi Randy, Have a look through the Hamtech Archives, I remember reading about the patents awhile ago, I also remember somthing about most of the tooling equipment beeing destroyed. I'll poke around the WWW and see what I can find. Cheers, Ron Bell. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raul de Jalapeno" < > Casey > I still think we should check out the patent for expiration then find us a Chicago man to hunt down the jigs and tools. I'll set up shop and build those suckers. I'm already in negotiations with a transformer engineer to wind high-quality iron for my amps, so why not a tonewheel manufactory? > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Ken & Dianne Godfrey
Hey Raul!
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If we find anything still alive around Chicago, I can go pick it up. I'm only a few hours away. As far as tooling, what would there have really been? Are Tonewheels die-stamped? I haven't seen one out of its TG in so long I don't remember. There were probably stamping and forming dies for the TG and Pre-Amp chassis', but that's not really required. Maybe lathe patterns for legs and cabinet-piece templates, too. If we do a custom cabinet, we wouldn't need those. I don't think we want to repro the entire line, just B-3's, right? Well, maybe ALL the TG's used from about '34-'74, AO-28's, AO-15331's. Oh yeh! Molds for keys, Drawbar knobs, Vibrato knobs, Vibrato Scanner pieces would be nice, huh? Hmmmmmm... BCV-Ken -----Original Message----- |
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You know Raul that sounds like a splendid idea,BUT,would they buying public
think so.I think everyone here would agree that it would be fantastic to do such a thing but would they sell.After all this would be a serious venture which would at some point have to support itself.Just the capital required to purchase the jigs and other critical manufacturing goods would be substantial. just thinkin.....can you smell the smoke.......jeff |
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Ken,
Regarding the tonewheels,i don't know if they were stamped even if they were you would do it that way today.I have a friend that owns a laser cutting business.He can cut anything,any size ANY shape.As long as a good dimensioning is done his programmers can duplicate anything.All work is cad/cam and is good enough for goverment work. just my 2 1/2 cents......jeff |
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Randall Bush
There you go, Jeff. And once the programming and setup costs are out of the way, each piece would be cheap to make.
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In a message dated 3/5/02 3:32:52 PM Central Standard Time, jlc7184@...
writes: No,are you kidding.How rare would that be if this is true.I'd say name yourNow, if he wants to give it to a good home where it will be taken good care of and treated well.... I'll be glad to give you my phone number! George |
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Jeff,
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If I'm not mistaken, Keyboard Exhange International has the B3 in question. It is a new in the box 1974 model. Check out their web-site at www.b3world.com They are located in Orlando. They show a picture of the crate with three boxes (B3,bench,pedals)...FYI..Eddie ----- Original Message -----
From: jlc7184@... Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 9:28 PM To: hammond_zone@... Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob No,are you kidding.How rare would that be if this is true.I'd say name your price.Some high dollart collector would snap it up.Certainly not me though.But i'd like to look at it just to say "I saw brand new 1973 B3". This is a pretty amazing find. !!!!!!!!! jeff Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : |
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Laddie Williams
Truthfully, I don't know.
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He has had the B3 in a box for some time and is an aftermarket Hammond/Organ dealer in Orlando, Florida. He has used it to promote his business, but is moving his business. He will probably put it on e-bay, but to sell it for the best realistic price to his advantage. He asked me what I thought it was worth in the market and I told him I was not sure, but that I would ask around. He is a business man who has a good reputation, but runs his business every day.. I am retired, so I have time to ask (stupid) questions and collect answers. I also own two Hammonds and might even buy a third if my wife doesn't put her foot down. I just am interested in what fellow Hammond owners and lovers think the "right person" would pay for a brand new tone-wheel B3S? ----- Original Message -----
From: jlc7184@... To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob Laddie, Where was this found.In a warehouse ???? Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Laddie Williams
I think so too. The "name your price...I think used to be a joke, because he wanted it more than anybody.
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Now, that he is going to move and has capital needs, it is seen as a cash flow producer. What he really wants is a conscensus on the max dollar possible.. like where should he set the reserve??? Laddie ----- Original Message -----
From: jlc7184@... To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob No,are you kidding.How rare would that be if this is true.I'd say name your price.Some high dollart collector would snap it up.Certainly not me though.But i'd like to look at it just to say "I saw brand new 1973 B3". This is a pretty amazing find. !!!!!!!!! jeff Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Ken & Dianne Godfrey
Jeff,
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That's a good idea. We definitely have more resources to choose from than Hammond had in the early 30's! I know a guy in the laser cutting business, too. He doesn't usually do steel, but he's done up to 1/8" thick plate on occasion. He normally sticks to wood and plastics. But, I know another guy with a machine shop who also has a laser and a water-jet. He cuts steel all the time. BCV-KG -----Original Message----- |
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What was the " LIST PRICE " of the B3 when it came out that year?
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From: Laddie Williams To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob Truthfully, I don't know. He has had the B3 in a box for some time and is an aftermarket Hammond/Organ dealer in Orlando, Florida. He has used it to promote his business, but is moving his business. He will probably put it on e-bay, but to sell it for the best realistic price to his advantage. He asked me what I thought it was worth in the market and I told him I was not sure, but that I would ask around. He is a business man who has a good reputation, but runs his business every day.. I am retired, so I have time to ask (stupid) questions and collect answers. I also own two Hammonds and might even buy a third if my wife doesn't put her foot down. I just am interested in what fellow Hammond owners and lovers think the "right person" would pay for a brand new tone-wheel B3S? ----- Original Message ----- From: jlc7184@... To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob Laddie, Where was this found.In a warehouse ???? Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Laddie Williams
Yes, KEI has it... it is no secret. The box is there for viewing right in the store. As I said, he (Jim) is moving and would now like to sell it, but for the best possible price. He asked me about price and I told him, and also told him I would try to get an average figure. I find it intersting with all our proximity, that no one will venture a figure. For something for you all to jump on, I told him I would not sell it for less than $50,000.00 That a true collector would pay that figure.. the problem would be to locate the true collector. I also told him that he would have to send a tech with it to unpack it and carefully check it out..add gradual power, look for smoke, etc. But, for that kind of money he could afford to do that. Two other people have told me my figure is too low and it could go for $100,000.00 Now what do you think???
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From: Eddie Davis To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob Jeff, If I'm not mistaken, Keyboard Exhange International has the B3 in question. It is a new in the box 1974 model. Check out their web-site at www.b3world.com They are located in Orlando. They show a picture of the crate with three boxes (B3,bench,pedals)...FYI..Eddie ----- Original Message ----- From: jlc7184@... Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 9:28 PM To: hammond_zone@... Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob No,are you kidding.How rare would that be if this is true.I'd say name your price.Some high dollart collector would snap it up.Certainly not me though.But i'd like to look at it just to say "I saw brand new 1973 B3". This is a pretty amazing find. !!!!!!!!! jeff Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Julian St Martin
whatever the list was I'll give 10% more. that or an even swap with my
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Yamaha DX7 which I have never taken out of the box. ----- Original Message -----
From: <mtcasino@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob What was the " LIST PRICE " of the B3 when it came out that year?Hammond/Organ dealer in Orlando, Florida. He has used it to promote his business, but is moving his business. Hewill probably put it on e-bay, but to sell it for the best realistic price to his advantage.He asked me what I thought it was worth in the market and I told him I was not sure, but that Iwould ask around. He is a business man who has a good reputation, but runs his business everyday.. I am retired, so I have time to ask (stupid) questions and collect answers. I also owntwo Hammonds and might even buy a third if my wife doesn't put her foot down. I just am interestedin what fellow Hammond owners and lovers think the "right person" would pay for a brand new tone-wheelB3S? ----- Original Message ----- |
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