Hello list members,
??? I will be connecting an A100 to a 145 type Leslie. I think the
Leslie is actually a 245. Can you tell me what kind of kits are
available?? I figure I could use one of the G terminals and ground for
signal and ac power and switch but perhaps a full kit might be what this
lady wants. I would like to know the options.
thanks
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Rich Reid
208-861-9263
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LESLIE tremolo Control Terminal box 428-13 120
Leslie 428-13 Tremolo Control Terminal Box Use with 122 or 428 Tremolo Control Kit
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LESLIE combo preamp III Model 137786 300
This is a Leslie Preamp Combo III and will allow you to play your piano or electric guitar or organ through a 11 pin Leslie. The unit has been tested and all functions work properly. In addition, I currently use it to run a guitar or piano through a Leslie 860. If you play guitar or organ you are fully aware of this units capabilities.
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LESLIE 037655 Speaker& console connector, tremolo & ¨¦cho switch 30
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LESLIE Leslie 9 Pin Cable 30' Brown (2) 150
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LESLIE r¨¦verb control kit 100
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LESLIE 147 Power amplifier absolument NEUF?!!!! 500
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I forgot to mention, in the case of rubber covered cables the Vulcanization breaks down. and Don Resor From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Don Resor Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 3:47 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [hammondzone] Sticky leslie cable It is possible the Plastomer is breaking down which will also cause the stickiness as the material degrades. If this is the case, clean-up will be temporary. I¡¯ve only ever seen this happen with old rubberized power cords in excess of 40+ years break down like this. I¡¯ve never seen a Leslie cable do this. I¡¯ve seen the rubber covered Leslie cables with the metal clam shell end caps either dry rot, or in some cases turn wrinkled whereas the material softens but doesn¡¯t necessarily become sticky. I¡¯ve seen the rubber covered wiring between the outlet box and preamplifier of a BV/CV most definitely do this. Donald R. Resor Jr. T. W. & T. C. Svc. Co. Hammond USA warranty service "Most people don¡¯t have a sense of humor. They think they do, but they don¡¯t." --Jonathan Winters From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Uwe Menrath Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 3:18 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [hammondzone] Sticky leslie cable Thanks to you all! As this combo has been sitting in a living room for all of it's previous life, I don't think that there's gaffa tape residue, but don't know for sure, of course. The stickyness reminds me of some degradation of the outer plastic, like we know it from polyurethane for instance. Would that be possible? What exactly was the outer sleeve made from? Best regards!
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It is possible the Plastomer is breaking down which will also cause the stickiness as the material degrades.? If this is the case, clean-up will be temporary.?? ? I¡¯ve only ever seen this happen with old rubberized power cords in excess of 40+ years break down like this.? I¡¯ve never seen a Leslie cable do this. ? ? I¡¯ve seen the rubber covered Leslie cables with the metal clam shell end caps either dry rot, or in some cases turn wrinkled whereas the material softens but doesn¡¯t necessarily become sticky.? ? I¡¯ve seen the rubber covered wiring between the outlet box and preamplifier of a BV/CV most definitely do this. ? ? Donald R. Resor Jr. T. W. & T. C. Svc. Co. http://hammondorganservice.com
Hammond USA warranty service
"Most people don¡¯t have a sense of humor. They think they do, but they don¡¯t." --Jonathan Winters ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Uwe Menrath
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 3:18 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hammondzone] Sticky leslie cable ? Thanks to you all!
As this combo has been sitting in a living room for all of it's previous life, I don't think that there's gaffa tape residue, but don't know for sure, of course. The stickyness reminds me of some degradation of the outer plastic, like we know it from polyurethane for instance. Would that be possible? What exactly was the outer sleeve made from?
Best regards!
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Thanks to you all!
As this combo has been sitting in a living room for all of it's previous life, I don't think that there's gaffa tape residue, but don't know for sure, of course. The stickyness reminds me of some degradation of the outer plastic, like we know it from polyurethane for instance. Would that be possible? What exactly was the outer sleeve made from?
Best regards!
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That sounds to me like at some point, someone used duct tape to tape
the cable to the floor -- duct tape (especially cheap duct tape) can
leave some really sticky stuff.
The way more expensive "gaffer's tape" is much better to use for
taping cables down at gigs (but quite more expensive!).
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This organ and Leslie are still available if anyone is interested please contact me.?
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Steve Mason
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Probably due to the environment that the cable has been
previously kept or used in. Perhaps the organ and Leslie were in a
room where the floor was regularly mopped, and the stickiness is
detergent residue, or spilt drinks if it was in a bar? Many
possibilities. I would try cleaning the cable with warm soapy
water as a first action. A plastic pan scourer pad will help to
remove more stubborn dirt. Try to avoid getting water into the
connectors, in any case, allow it to dry thoroughly before use.
On 25/07/2022 13:34, Uwe Menrath wrote:
Hello,
together with a TR-200 organ and a Danish 760 Leslie I acquired
the related nine conductor cable. Sadly, the cable's surface feels
uglily sticky. How do I get rid of this stickyness, and how do I
prevent the cable from it in the future?
Best regards!
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You may try talcum powder.
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Am 25.07.2022 um 14:39 schrieb Dave Winslow <davidwinslow@...>:
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Taped!
On 7/25/2022 8:38 AM, Dave Winslow
wrote:
I'll bet it was once tapped to the floor.? Googone should do
the trick. ?
On 7/25/2022 8:34 AM, Uwe Menrath
wrote:
Hello,
together with a TR-200 organ and a Danish 760 Leslie I acquired
the related nine conductor cable. Sadly, the cable's surface
feels uglily sticky. How do I get rid of this stickyness, and
how do I prevent the cable from it in the future?
Best regards!
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Taped!
On 7/25/2022 8:38 AM, Dave Winslow
wrote:
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I'll bet it was once tapped to the floor.? Googone should do
the trick. ?
On 7/25/2022 8:34 AM, Uwe Menrath
wrote:
Hello,
together with a TR-200 organ and a Danish 760 Leslie I acquired
the related nine conductor cable. Sadly, the cable's surface
feels uglily sticky. How do I get rid of this stickyness, and
how do I prevent the cable from it in the future?
Best regards!
|
I'll bet it was once tapped to the floor.? Googone should do the
trick. ?
On 7/25/2022 8:34 AM, Uwe Menrath
wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Hello,
together with a TR-200 organ and a Danish 760 Leslie I acquired
the related nine conductor cable. Sadly, the cable's surface feels
uglily sticky. How do I get rid of this stickyness, and how do I
prevent the cable from it in the future?
Best regards!
|
Hello,
together with a TR-200 organ and a Danish 760 Leslie I acquired the related nine conductor cable. Sadly, the cable's surface feels uglily sticky. How do I get rid of this stickyness, and how do I prevent the cable from it in the future?
Best regards!
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Re: How to repair a pedal contact assembly?
TK U Chris,? This gives me starting point though I have no idea what I'm doing. Do you think it might have something to do with the Reverb unit. This is where I have my Auto Vari 64 coming from. I have unhooked the Auto but there has been no change? in the high pitch which makes me believe this isn't the problem. Back to the console, fiddle with things and hope I stumble upon the problem. Tks for the response.
On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 09:31:01 AM EDT, Chris Clifton <clifton.christopher@...> wrote:
The fact that the noise is coming out of the lower right speaker
would give someone with knowledge of the signal routing, an idea
of where in the organ the noise originates. If I recall, you've
told us that the volume of the noise varies with the swell pedal,
that tells me that the noise originates inside the organ
somewhere.
On 12/07/2022 13:23, Gail Wrighter via
groups.io wrote:
Would love to hear it with
the 147. But I don't have one. Got the pedals sounding right
with adjusting the turn screw in the back of the console. Did
notice the lower C spindle was a little worn. As I plunder
along am hoping to stumble upon the "high pitch"which I
believing in a ground problem. It's coming out of the lower
right speaker, if that means anything. It seem also impossible
to get to unless I basically disassemble the lower unit in the
leslie to get to it. Not sure I want to go there.
On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 10:18:22 PM EDT, Wayne
Tarling via groups.io <tarlingw@...>
wrote:
This sounds like a connection issue
somewhere.? ?Depending on where the organ has been
sitting, the environmental conditions may have
negatively impacted the systems.
My comment about the schematics was on
the basis of having an engineer troubleshoot.
Schematics are needed to deal with the issues like
you originally mentioned ..."high pitch".? That is
something you will very likely not be able to "fix"
without someone knowledgeable in electronics.
The schematics are very likely readily
available from this forum, in particular the
resident expert, Chris Clifton.? But this would only
be of any use if you committed to fixing the organ.?
It would be too bad to "return it to the back room
where it was" ....then what?? You
should enjoy it!
The X77 is a powerhouse organ with the
matching Leslie.? I have the luxury of also using
the 147 for the "traditional sound".? It sounds
terrible with both running at the same time. They
each have their purpose.
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Re: How to repair a pedal contact assembly?
The fact that the noise is coming out of the lower right speaker
would give someone with knowledge of the signal routing, an idea
of where in the organ the noise originates. If I recall, you've
told us that the volume of the noise varies with the swell pedal,
that tells me that the noise originates inside the organ
somewhere.
On 12/07/2022 13:23, Gail Wrighter via
groups.io wrote:
Would love to hear it with
the 147. But I don't have one. Got the pedals sounding right
with adjusting the turn screw in the back of the console. Did
notice the lower C spindle was a little worn. As I plunder
along am hoping to stumble upon the "high pitch"which I
believing in a ground problem. It's coming out of the lower
right speaker, if that means anything. It seem also impossible
to get to unless I basically disassemble the lower unit in the
leslie to get to it. Not sure I want to go there.
On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 10:18:22 PM EDT, Wayne
Tarling via groups.io <tarlingw@...>
wrote:
This sounds like a connection issue
somewhere.? ?Depending on where the organ has been
sitting, the environmental conditions may have
negatively impacted the systems.
My comment about the schematics was on
the basis of having an engineer troubleshoot.
Schematics are needed to deal with the issues like
you originally mentioned ..."high pitch".? That is
something you will very likely not be able to "fix"
without someone knowledgeable in electronics.
The schematics are very likely readily
available from this forum, in particular the
resident expert, Chris Clifton.? But this would only
be of any use if you committed to fixing the organ.?
It would be too bad to "return it to the back room
where it was" ....then what?? You
should enjoy it!
The X77 is a powerhouse organ with the
matching Leslie.? I have the luxury of also using
the 147 for the "traditional sound".? It sounds
terrible with both running at the same time. They
each have their purpose.
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Re: How to repair a pedal contact assembly?
Would love to hear it with the 147. But I don't have one. Got the pedals sounding right with adjusting the turn screw in the back of the console. Did notice the lower C spindle was a little worn. As I plunder along am hoping to stumble upon the "high pitch"which I believing in a ground problem. It's coming out of the lower right speaker, if that means anything. It seem also impossible to get to unless I basically disassemble the lower unit in the leslie to get to it. Not sure I want to go there.
On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 10:18:22 PM EDT, Wayne Tarling via groups.io <tarlingw@...> wrote:
This sounds like a connection issue somewhere.? ?Depending on where the organ has been sitting, the environmental conditions may have negatively impacted the systems. My comment about the schematics was on the basis of having an engineer troubleshoot. Schematics are needed to deal with the issues like you originally mentioned ..."high pitch".? That is something you will very likely not be able to "fix" without someone knowledgeable in electronics. The schematics are very likely readily available from this forum, in particular the resident expert, Chris Clifton.? But this would only be of any use if you committed to fixing the organ.? It would be too bad to "return it to the back room where it was" ....then what?? You should enjoy it! The X77 is a powerhouse organ with the matching Leslie.? I have the luxury of also using the 147 for the "traditional sound".? It sounds terrible with both running at the same time. They each have their purpose.
On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 10:49:28 AM PDT, Gail Wrighter via groups.io <gwrighte@...> wrote:
If I had the schematics, I couldn't interpret them. Keep plundering along and hoping to get lucky. All of a sudden the leslie quit. Was spinning but no sound. Then out of no where it started working. If this keeps up I just might return it to the back room where it was. Am enjoying playing again even though the hands ae not working like they used too. Will take some time.
On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 01:39:58 PM EDT, Wayne Tarling via groups.io <tarlingw@...> wrote:
Hi Gail ......bigger than Gail Sayers?
Well you're on the opposite side of the continent ...on the 42nd parallel ...I'm on the 49th. My family/parents were musicians which had me start piano at age five (studied for 10 years). I had the unbelievable luxury of starting percussion at age six, with a teacher named JIM BLACKLEY (for 10 years). He moved to New York (lived in Toronto) to teach master classes at Juilliard for many decades.
The family got a Hammond C, quickly moved to the A and a 147.? I eventually got an X77 (early '80's) ...and inherited the 147.? Touch wood, no major problems with the X77 other than a tonewheel bearing, but determined using a proper heavier lube, strategically administered directly on the culprit bearing, problem fully solved.? 147 is fault-free. I am like you. Only playing in the home ....but very rarely for many years now. I need to get back to it.
My $0.02 worth to your problems is connecting with an electronics engineer, preferably in the audio field (but doesn't have to be if he is an electronics engineer vs power engineer).? He/she will be able to scope and diagnose the SOURCE of the issue and make the necessary changes ....not "fixes".? I have the luxury of having a electronics engineer buddy who has helped me with electronic issues in the past ...not necessarily audio-related.? If you do not have the full schematics of this organ, you need to obtain this information FIRST.
Regards Wayne
On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 01:56:19 PM PDT, Gail Wrighter via groups.io <gwrighte@...> wrote:
I am in Binghamton, NY. I have had mine since 1968. It has only been in 2 houses, my parents and mine. Decided to resurrect my musical career whcih consists of playing in my home only. It's been many years, probably 12/15 since I have played the X77. I also have a Lowery and 2 small versions( Yamahas). Have cleaned most of the contacts but still have a very annoys high pitch coming from the Leslie speaker(X77L) Can't come up with a fix to rid the speaker of the noise. It increase in loudness as the swell pedal is increased. I also have an external AutoVari 64 rhythm box which is hooked up to the reverb unit and works off the reverb tab. Have totally unplugged the Autovari and still have the high pitch. Any ideas???? Then, I have the 16' pedal not working, well working at a very low volume. Haven't tackled that yet. So much to do and so little knowledge to do it.. Hoping for a stumbled upon solution after reading many forums, so far to no avail.? Keep in touch. Gail... yes that is my name. I'm 6'3" 240 lbs, retired Physical Education teacher/Coach. Taught and coached for 34 yrs.
On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 10:31:41 AM EDT, Wayne Tarling via groups.io <tarlingw@...> wrote:
Hello Gail I have an X77 as well.? ?It is a very rare beast...in our area. Where are you located?? I am in Vancouver. Wayne
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 06:13:28 PM PDT, Gail Wrighter via groups.io <gwrighte@...> wrote:
Haven't dove into my X77 yet so don't know what I'll find. The high pitch noise coming out of my? X77L Leslie has me climbing up a wall right now.
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 12:49:47 PM EDT, Uwe Menrath <uwe.menrath@...> wrote:
Hi,
so I've got two identical pedal contact assemblies from a Concorde and a Monarch. Both are missing two of these triangular, white pushrods that protrude out of the upper side and act as the links between the pedal actuators and the contacts inside the steel box. Presently, both contact assemblies have 23 of those rods (I hope you see what I mean) instead of 25.
At the first step I intend to open both assemblies and swap two rods from one to the other one. Next would be cloning those rods by 3D printing or the like. Perhaps they might have fallen into the boxes?
Anyway, I see no possibility to get access to the inside of these steel boxes. There are no screws or the like. May someone wiser than me help me, please?
Best regards!
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Re: How to repair a pedal contact assembly?
This sounds like a connection issue somewhere.? ?Depending on where the organ has been sitting, the environmental conditions may have negatively impacted the systems. My comment about the schematics was on the basis of having an engineer troubleshoot. Schematics are needed to deal with the issues like you originally mentioned ..."high pitch".? That is something you will very likely not be able to "fix" without someone knowledgeable in electronics. The schematics are very likely readily available from this forum, in particular the resident expert, Chris Clifton.? But this would only be of any use if you committed to fixing the organ.? It would be too bad to "return it to the back room where it was" ....then what?? You should enjoy it! The X77 is a powerhouse organ with the matching Leslie.? I have the luxury of also using the 147 for the "traditional sound".? It sounds terrible with both running at the same time. They each have their purpose.
On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 10:49:28 AM PDT, Gail Wrighter via groups.io <gwrighte@...> wrote:
If I had the schematics, I couldn't interpret them. Keep plundering along and hoping to get lucky. All of a sudden the leslie quit. Was spinning but no sound. Then out of no where it started working. If this keeps up I just might return it to the back room where it was. Am enjoying playing again even though the hands ae not working like they used too. Will take some time.
On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 01:39:58 PM EDT, Wayne Tarling via groups.io <tarlingw@...> wrote:
Hi Gail ......bigger than Gail Sayers?
Well you're on the opposite side of the continent ...on the 42nd parallel ...I'm on the 49th. My family/parents were musicians which had me start piano at age five (studied for 10 years). I had the unbelievable luxury of starting percussion at age six, with a teacher named JIM BLACKLEY (for 10 years). He moved to New York (lived in Toronto) to teach master classes at Juilliard for many decades.
The family got a Hammond C, quickly moved to the A and a 147.? I eventually got an X77 (early '80's) ...and inherited the 147.? Touch wood, no major problems with the X77 other than a tonewheel bearing, but determined using a proper heavier lube, strategically administered directly on the culprit bearing, problem fully solved.? 147 is fault-free. I am like you. Only playing in the home ....but very rarely for many years now. I need to get back to it.
My $0.02 worth to your problems is connecting with an electronics engineer, preferably in the audio field (but doesn't have to be if he is an electronics engineer vs power engineer).? He/she will be able to scope and diagnose the SOURCE of the issue and make the necessary changes ....not "fixes".? I have the luxury of having a electronics engineer buddy who has helped me with electronic issues in the past ...not necessarily audio-related.? If you do not have the full schematics of this organ, you need to obtain this information FIRST.
Regards Wayne
On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 01:56:19 PM PDT, Gail Wrighter via groups.io <gwrighte@...> wrote:
I am in Binghamton, NY. I have had mine since 1968. It has only been in 2 houses, my parents and mine. Decided to resurrect my musical career whcih consists of playing in my home only. It's been many years, probably 12/15 since I have played the X77. I also have a Lowery and 2 small versions( Yamahas). Have cleaned most of the contacts but still have a very annoys high pitch coming from the Leslie speaker(X77L) Can't come up with a fix to rid the speaker of the noise. It increase in loudness as the swell pedal is increased. I also have an external AutoVari 64 rhythm box which is hooked up to the reverb unit and works off the reverb tab. Have totally unplugged the Autovari and still have the high pitch. Any ideas???? Then, I have the 16' pedal not working, well working at a very low volume. Haven't tackled that yet. So much to do and so little knowledge to do it.. Hoping for a stumbled upon solution after reading many forums, so far to no avail.? Keep in touch. Gail... yes that is my name. I'm 6'3" 240 lbs, retired Physical Education teacher/Coach. Taught and coached for 34 yrs.
On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 10:31:41 AM EDT, Wayne Tarling via groups.io <tarlingw@...> wrote:
Hello Gail I have an X77 as well.? ?It is a very rare beast...in our area. Where are you located?? I am in Vancouver. Wayne
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 06:13:28 PM PDT, Gail Wrighter via groups.io <gwrighte@...> wrote:
Haven't dove into my X77 yet so don't know what I'll find. The high pitch noise coming out of my? X77L Leslie has me climbing up a wall right now.
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 12:49:47 PM EDT, Uwe Menrath <uwe.menrath@...> wrote:
Hi,
so I've got two identical pedal contact assemblies from a Concorde and a Monarch. Both are missing two of these triangular, white pushrods that protrude out of the upper side and act as the links between the pedal actuators and the contacts inside the steel box. Presently, both contact assemblies have 23 of those rods (I hope you see what I mean) instead of 25.
At the first step I intend to open both assemblies and swap two rods from one to the other one. Next would be cloning those rods by 3D printing or the like. Perhaps they might have fallen into the boxes?
Anyway, I see no possibility to get access to the inside of these steel boxes. There are no screws or the like. May someone wiser than me help me, please?
Best regards!
|
Re: How to repair a pedal contact assembly?
If I had the schematics, I couldn't interpret them. Keep plundering along and hoping to get lucky. All of a sudden the leslie quit. Was spinning but no sound. Then out of no where it started working. If this keeps up I just might return it to the back room where it was. Am enjoying playing again even though the hands ae not working like they used too. Will take some time.
On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 01:39:58 PM EDT, Wayne Tarling via groups.io <tarlingw@...> wrote:
Hi Gail ......bigger than Gail Sayers?
Well you're on the opposite side of the continent ...on the 42nd parallel ...I'm on the 49th. My family/parents were musicians which had me start piano at age five (studied for 10 years). I had the unbelievable luxury of starting percussion at age six, with a teacher named JIM BLACKLEY (for 10 years). He moved to New York (lived in Toronto) to teach master classes at Juilliard for many decades.
The family got a Hammond C, quickly moved to the A and a 147.? I eventually got an X77 (early '80's) ...and inherited the 147.? Touch wood, no major problems with the X77 other than a tonewheel bearing, but determined using a proper heavier lube, strategically administered directly on the culprit bearing, problem fully solved.? 147 is fault-free. I am like you. Only playing in the home ....but very rarely for many years now. I need to get back to it.
My $0.02 worth to your problems is connecting with an electronics engineer, preferably in the audio field (but doesn't have to be if he is an electronics engineer vs power engineer).? He/she will be able to scope and diagnose the SOURCE of the issue and make the necessary changes ....not "fixes".? I have the luxury of having a electronics engineer buddy who has helped me with electronic issues in the past ...not necessarily audio-related.? If you do not have the full schematics of this organ, you need to obtain this information FIRST.
Regards Wayne
On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 01:56:19 PM PDT, Gail Wrighter via groups.io <gwrighte@...> wrote:
I am in Binghamton, NY. I have had mine since 1968. It has only been in 2 houses, my parents and mine. Decided to resurrect my musical career whcih consists of playing in my home only. It's been many years, probably 12/15 since I have played the X77. I also have a Lowery and 2 small versions( Yamahas). Have cleaned most of the contacts but still have a very annoys high pitch coming from the Leslie speaker(X77L) Can't come up with a fix to rid the speaker of the noise. It increase in loudness as the swell pedal is increased. I also have an external AutoVari 64 rhythm box which is hooked up to the reverb unit and works off the reverb tab. Have totally unplugged the Autovari and still have the high pitch. Any ideas???? Then, I have the 16' pedal not working, well working at a very low volume. Haven't tackled that yet. So much to do and so little knowledge to do it.. Hoping for a stumbled upon solution after reading many forums, so far to no avail.? Keep in touch. Gail... yes that is my name. I'm 6'3" 240 lbs, retired Physical Education teacher/Coach. Taught and coached for 34 yrs.
On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 10:31:41 AM EDT, Wayne Tarling via groups.io <tarlingw@...> wrote:
Hello Gail I have an X77 as well.? ?It is a very rare beast...in our area. Where are you located?? I am in Vancouver. Wayne
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 06:13:28 PM PDT, Gail Wrighter via groups.io <gwrighte@...> wrote:
Haven't dove into my X77 yet so don't know what I'll find. The high pitch noise coming out of my? X77L Leslie has me climbing up a wall right now.
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 12:49:47 PM EDT, Uwe Menrath <uwe.menrath@...> wrote:
Hi,
so I've got two identical pedal contact assemblies from a Concorde and a Monarch. Both are missing two of these triangular, white pushrods that protrude out of the upper side and act as the links between the pedal actuators and the contacts inside the steel box. Presently, both contact assemblies have 23 of those rods (I hope you see what I mean) instead of 25.
At the first step I intend to open both assemblies and swap two rods from one to the other one. Next would be cloning those rods by 3D printing or the like. Perhaps they might have fallen into the boxes?
Anyway, I see no possibility to get access to the inside of these steel boxes. There are no screws or the like. May someone wiser than me help me, please?
Best regards!
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Re: How to repair a pedal contact assembly? - The solution
Yes the gaps will come between E&F and B&C across the two
octaves.
On 11/07/2022 07:47, Uwe Menrath wrote:
Hi,
yesterday I noted per chance that the virtually missing rods are
at identical positions at both units. So I started to count:
Actually, no rod is missing at all! All 25 rods are present in any
unit. I've just been misled. The two holes were deliberately left
empty at factory, probably to mechanically match the pedal key
assembly. I also managed to pry open the contact assemblies and
found that under one of these open holes there's no contact pair
at all.
Issue solved, question answered, thank you.
Best regards!
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Re: How to repair a pedal contact assembly? - The solution
Hi,
yesterday I noted per chance that the virtually missing rods are at identical positions at both units. So I started to count: Actually, no rod is missing at all! All 25 rods are present in any unit. I've just been misled. The two holes were deliberately left empty at factory, probably to mechanically match the pedal key assembly. I also managed to pry open the contact assemblies and found that under one of these open holes there's no contact pair at all.
Issue solved, question answered, thank you.
Best regards!
|
Re: How to repair a pedal contact assembly?
Hi Gail ......bigger than Gail Sayers?
Well you're on the opposite side of the continent ...on the 42nd parallel ...I'm on the 49th. My family/parents were musicians which had me start piano at age five (studied for 10 years). I had the unbelievable luxury of starting percussion at age six, with a teacher named JIM BLACKLEY (for 10 years). He moved to New York (lived in Toronto) to teach master classes at Juilliard for many decades.
The family got a Hammond C, quickly moved to the A and a 147.? I eventually got an X77 (early '80's) ...and inherited the 147.? Touch wood, no major problems with the X77 other than a tonewheel bearing, but determined using a proper heavier lube, strategically administered directly on the culprit bearing, problem fully solved.? 147 is fault-free. I am like you. Only playing in the home ....but very rarely for many years now. I need to get back to it.
My $0.02 worth to your problems is connecting with an electronics engineer, preferably in the audio field (but doesn't have to be if he is an electronics engineer vs power engineer).? He/she will be able to scope and diagnose the SOURCE of the issue and make the necessary changes ....not "fixes".? I have the luxury of having a electronics engineer buddy who has helped me with electronic issues in the past ...not necessarily audio-related.? If you do not have the full schematics of this organ, you need to obtain this information FIRST.
Regards Wayne
On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 01:56:19 PM PDT, Gail Wrighter via groups.io <gwrighte@...> wrote:
I am in Binghamton, NY. I have had mine since 1968. It has only been in 2 houses, my parents and mine. Decided to resurrect my musical career whcih consists of playing in my home only. It's been many years, probably 12/15 since I have played the X77. I also have a Lowery and 2 small versions( Yamahas). Have cleaned most of the contacts but still have a very annoys high pitch coming from the Leslie speaker(X77L) Can't come up with a fix to rid the speaker of the noise. It increase in loudness as the swell pedal is increased. I also have an external AutoVari 64 rhythm box which is hooked up to the reverb unit and works off the reverb tab. Have totally unplugged the Autovari and still have the high pitch. Any ideas???? Then, I have the 16' pedal not working, well working at a very low volume. Haven't tackled that yet. So much to do and so little knowledge to do it.. Hoping for a stumbled upon solution after reading many forums, so far to no avail.? Keep in touch. Gail... yes that is my name. I'm 6'3" 240 lbs, retired Physical Education teacher/Coach. Taught and coached for 34 yrs.
On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 10:31:41 AM EDT, Wayne Tarling via groups.io <tarlingw@...> wrote:
Hello Gail I have an X77 as well.? ?It is a very rare beast...in our area. Where are you located?? I am in Vancouver. Wayne
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 06:13:28 PM PDT, Gail Wrighter via groups.io <gwrighte@...> wrote:
Haven't dove into my X77 yet so don't know what I'll find. The high pitch noise coming out of my? X77L Leslie has me climbing up a wall right now.
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 12:49:47 PM EDT, Uwe Menrath <uwe.menrath@...> wrote:
Hi,
so I've got two identical pedal contact assemblies from a Concorde and a Monarch. Both are missing two of these triangular, white pushrods that protrude out of the upper side and act as the links between the pedal actuators and the contacts inside the steel box. Presently, both contact assemblies have 23 of those rods (I hope you see what I mean) instead of 25.
At the first step I intend to open both assemblies and swap two rods from one to the other one. Next would be cloning those rods by 3D printing or the like. Perhaps they might have fallen into the boxes?
Anyway, I see no possibility to get access to the inside of these steel boxes. There are no screws or the like. May someone wiser than me help me, please?
Best regards!
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Uwe Menrath
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