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Re: M101 VS C3 Recap Tg is a nonsense
t402_owner
hear hear
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t402 --- In hammond_zone@y..., "Raul de Jalapeno" <raul_de_jalapeno@h...>
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Re: [hammond_zone] M101 VS C3 and the winner is....
Raul de Jalapeno
Votre un homme d'int¨¦grit¨¦, Eric! Aucune violation n'a ¨¦t¨¦ signifi¨¦e. Il est juste que les personnes comme moi qui apprennent juste ¨¤ jouer, mais savoir(conna?tre) l'¨¦lectronique de Hammonds tr¨¨s bien, veulent vous tenir qui ¨ºtes de vrais musiciens sonnant bons. And yes, use the polypros.
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From: Eric DRUTEL To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 10:27 PM Subject: [hammond_zone] M101 VS C3 and the winner is.... Ok OK OK OK OK OK DEAR ZONNERS, In France we have that expression who said... only idiot people won t change their ways...in french, y a que les cons qui ne changent pas d avis. Ok, so, i will recap the generator... With polypro caps? that right? Take care Eric [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Many Thanks!
I.H. Smith
Thanks for the update. The frustrations level has to terrible for him and
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subsequently for the rest of you, but it's amazing how many have come back after a stroke to function well and to appreciate life all the more. ----- Original Message -----
From: "daz" <daz395@...> To: "Rover800@..." <rover800@...>; "Hammond_Zone@..." <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 2:15 PM Subject: [hammond_zone] Many Thanks! Hello All,many thanks to you all for the kind words. My Dad is home from hospital as of |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Leslie speaker question
Hi Group,
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Just as a bit of info on the design of early Hammonds and other electronic equip with the amp in the tone cabinet as opposed to inside the console. In the early days of electronics it was common practice to put the amp in the TC because of several factors. The most important one being that old style circuits generated a great amount of heat and there needed to be much natural air flow and space in order to keep things cool above and under the chassis. Can you imagine what would happen to an amp, such as the type used in a C40, if mounted inside the closed console? It would melt the wax off the caps, cook the tar out of the transformers and fry in short order (or drive you away from the keyboard after playing a few pieces) to say nothing of what all that heat would do to the rest of the organ. Also, the power supply (B+ portion) generated the greatest percentage of all the heat, thus the reason that it was in the TC on the amp chassis. The reason for all the heat is that the power produced by those old units, even though rated at 40 watts, was much higher than today's 40 watt units and, yesterday's tube circuits weren't as efficient a design as today's are. If you want to prove this to yourself, just look at the difference in size of the tubes and other components over the years. With the old tubes, it was necessary to provide area of glass for dissipation of heat, and plate size to prevent overheating and warping of the plates and other elements. The way that the early tubes heated up, one would get quite a burn if touched with bare fingers, yet, many of the newest tubes can be pulled from the socket by hand if you have tough fingers or a thin rag for protection. The old tubes (type 2A3 and etc.) would start a rag smoking and it could even start to smolder and burst into flame with time. In addition, the older balanced circuit amps had twice as many tubes per stage as today's circuits and only one stage per envelope. The heat developed in the circuitry of a BV/C40 is considerably more than that produced by the circuitry in an A100 which is self contained and doesn't require the old, higher power consuming amps, to drive the speakers. So, as can be seen, Hammond was not trying to corner the speaker/amp market, it was building to the requirements of the era of design to say nothing of the fact that the amp was designed to handle the heavy bass requirements of an organ, a leaning more toward bass, instrument. Lyle, Hammond Master Tech On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 21:28:14 -0700 "Raul de Jalapeno" <raul_de_jalapeno@...> writes: ----- Original Message -----________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: . |
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M101 VS C3 and the winner is....
Eric DRUTEL
Ok OK OK OK OK OK DEAR ZONNERS,
In France we have that expression who said... only idiot people won t change their ways...in french, y a que les cons qui ne changent pas d avis. Ok, so, i will recap the generator... With polypro caps? that right? Take care Eric --- Raul de Jalapeno <raul_de_jalapeno@...> wrote: Ken, ===== "Il n'y a pas de mauvais Hammond. Il n'y a que des hammond mal regles!" Eric DRUTEL in "C'est c'ui qui dit qui est!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! |
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Re: [hammond_zone] nice leslie
Raul de Jalapeno
LOL
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From: gdhiatt@... To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] nice leslie In a message dated 2/26/02 9:20:12 PM Central Standard Time, godfreys5@... writes: > You could restyle your DXR-20 the same way!! Saw a big hole in front of the > rotor, get some dayglow Krylon and a couple of blacklights, get yer > bellbottoms and paisley on, and you'd be STYLIN'!! > > ...well, maybe not. Keep in mind, I was raised in a rural area, went through 12 years of 4-H, I play the organ for church, I'm polite to the elderly.... and you think I'm going to ruin my reputation with a out of control tone cabinet??? :) G. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: [hammond_zone] nice leslie
Ken & Dianne Godfrey
Or you could just end up SICK like me!
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BCV-KG -----Original Message----- > > Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to |
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Re: [Hammond_zone] M101 VS C3
Raul de Jalapeno
Ken,
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That's 'cause this time of year where you live it's so cold your fingers chatter on the manuals and make weird sounds.... In all seriousness, though, some have asked "How can you duplicate the LC match that Hammond set up at the factory with a cap kit?" The answer is thus: You can't. The man who originally matched those caps and coils has probably gone to worm. If I have a TG .1uF paper (wax) cap that now measures .0001uF, would I be better off retaining that cap simply because Hammond put it there or would I be better off replacing the cap with a .1uF of better material and chance a 2% tolerence in value? I think the answer is obvious. BTW, I measured all the caps in my Goff kit and they were within .01% of stated value. I'll bet any day that a 40 year old Hammond with new caps will sound better all around than one with old paper "wax" caps. Just time and physics at work. Raul ----- Original Message -----
From: Ken & Dianne Godfrey To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:19 PM Subject: RE: [Hammond_zone] M101 VS C3 I think my A-100 needs about a dozen RC kits! I get a lot of crosstalk between the Tonewheels. Of course with some of the stuff I play, it's not really that noticable! BCV-KG > -----Original Message----- > From: jlc7184@... [mailto:jlc7184@...] > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:47 AM > To: hammond_zone@... > Subject: Re: [Hammond_zone] M101 VS C3 > > > Ok,thanks for the info Raul. > I guess i should consider puttin an rc kit in my a100 then. > > > jeff |
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Re: [hammond_zone] nice leslie
Raul de Jalapeno
I think I'm going to be ill....
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From: Ken & Dianne Godfrey To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:21 PM Subject: RE: [hammond_zone] nice leslie Hey George! You could restyle your DXR-20 the same way!! Saw a big hole in front of the rotor, get some dayglow Krylon and a couple of blacklights, get yer bellbottoms and paisley on, and you'd be STYLIN'!! ...well, maybe not. BCV-KG > -----Original Message----- > From: gdhiatt@... [mailto:gdhiatt@...] > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:33 PM > To: hammond_zone@... > Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] nice leslie > > > In a message dated 2/26/02 2:16:35 PM Central Standard Time, > lindaleed@... writes: > > > > Buyer pays shipping.......hmmm...enough to make me pass on that..even > > though the first bid is at $9.99 !! > > > > Frankly, I like the finish on the refrigerator in the picture much > > better, LOL! > > I'm with you Linda, I don't think my home is "groovy" enough to > appreciate > the fine styling of that unique piece of furniture! I think that > would be > the "Austin Powers" model! George > > > > > > > Visit The Hammond Zone > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: [hammond_zone] nice leslie
Raul de Jalapeno
Ken,
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My daughter and I watched "An Extremely Goofy Movie" together tonight. Goofy and his gal dancing to "Shake Your Groove Thing" made me think of that Leslie. I started rolling on the floor and couldn't stop. Raul ----- Original Message -----
From: Ken & Dianne Godfrey To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 7:35 PM Subject: RE: [hammond_zone] nice leslie Omygod, it's the Dreaded, INFAMOUS 950 ProLine!!!!! The guy I bought my 147's from must have wanted one of these when he bought that pair back in '71. He pulled the back louver panels (doesn't everybody?), painted the insides flat black, the rotors dayglow pink, green and orange, and set blacklights in front of them. Fortunately, he didn't do anything to the outside of the cabinets, except set beers and lit cigarettes on them... Truly a weird and wonderful(?!) find. And, it's only up to 150 buckaroos! It's almost as big as my "new" C40. Oh, come on, ONE of us has got to have this thing! (Not me, though.) BCV-KG > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Dachtyl [mailto:lindaleed@...] > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 3:01 PM > To: hammond_zone@... > Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] nice leslie > > > Buyer pays shipping.......hmmm...enough to make me pass on that..even > though the first bid is at $9.99 !! > > Frankly, I like the finish on the refrigerator in the picture much > better, LOL! > > Linda > > Gandert De Boo wrote: > > > Now here we have a nice leslie > > > > > > > > > > [ > > > > > > > Visit The Hammond Zone > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: [hammond_zone] nice leslie
Ken & Dianne Godfrey
Hey George!
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You could restyle your DXR-20 the same way!! Saw a big hole in front of the rotor, get some dayglow Krylon and a couple of blacklights, get yer bellbottoms and paisley on, and you'd be STYLIN'!! ...well, maybe not. BCV-KG -----Original Message----- |
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Re: [hammond_zone] 12-KT88's, 24-12 inchers and 18-Big 15's!!!!!
Raul de Jalapeno
I sure am, Ken! This is my kind O gal, man! Now, bring me that amp and watch what happens with six 6146Bs! Yehaa!
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From: Ken & Dianne Godfrey To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:09 PM Subject: RE: [hammond_zone] 12-KT88's, 24-12 inchers and 18-Big 15's!!!!! "The C3 played through two PR150 cabinets which were much the same pre-amp and reverb circuitry as the PR40 but had 6 KT88 valves instead of EL84's and 9 x 15inch bass speakers, 6 x 12inch treble reverb speakers and 6 x 12inch treble speakers." Sounds like my kind of amp!! Maybe I've led a sheltered life, but I've never seen anything with more than 2 15" speakers...Except maybe the PA stack at Pine Knob (our local outdoor concert theater)... Hey Raul! Are you gettin' this? Hammond Monster amp, here we come... So, can I just swap all 8 of the 6v6's in my HR-40 and get a junior version? BCV-KG Detroit Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: [Hammond_zone] M101 VS C3
Ken & Dianne Godfrey
I think my A-100 needs about a dozen RC kits! I get a lot of crosstalk
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between the Tonewheels. Of course with some of the stuff I play, it's not really that noticable! BCV-KG -----Original Message----- |
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Re: [hammond_zone] sticky keys
Ken & Dianne Godfrey
Goof off is a similar product that specializes in removing dried latex
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paint. It's just Xylene. I just used it to remove a myriad of white paint spatters from my C40. (It worked great, Bill!) I wish people would learn to use drop cloths! Anyway, used sparingly (put it on the rag, not the wood!) it took the paint right off, and not the finish. BCV-KG -----Original Message----- Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to |
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Re: [hammond_zone] 12-KT88's, 24-12 inchers and 18-Big 15's!!!!!
Ken & Dianne Godfrey
"The C3 played through two PR150 cabinets which were much the same pre-amp
and reverb circuitry as the PR40 but had 6 KT88 valves instead of EL84's and 9 x 15inch bass speakers, 6 x 12inch treble reverb speakers and 6 x 12inch treble speakers." Sounds like my kind of amp!! Maybe I've led a sheltered life, but I've never seen anything with more than 2 15" speakers...Except maybe the PA stack at Pine Knob (our local outdoor concert theater)... Hey Raul! Are you gettin' this? Hammond Monster amp, here we come... So, can I just swap all 8 of the 6v6's in my HR-40 and get a junior version? BCV-KG Detroit |
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Re: [hammond_zone] nice leslie
Ken & Dianne Godfrey
Omygod, it's the Dreaded, INFAMOUS 950 ProLine!!!!!
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The guy I bought my 147's from must have wanted one of these when he bought that pair back in '71. He pulled the back louver panels (doesn't everybody?), painted the insides flat black, the rotors dayglow pink, green and orange, and set blacklights in front of them. Fortunately, he didn't do anything to the outside of the cabinets, except set beers and lit cigarettes on them... Truly a weird and wonderful(?!) find. And, it's only up to 150 buckaroos! It's almost as big as my "new" C40. Oh, come on, ONE of us has got to have this thing! (Not me, though.) BCV-KG -----Original Message----- |
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