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Re: [hammond_zone] Screw
Ron Bell
I was talking about toasting the Jensen V-21 treble driver that is stock in
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the dual rotor Leslies. You wont be able to overdrive the Leslie at house volume, the Leslie has to be close to maximum volume for it to overdrive, even with the capacitor in the swell pedal set for overdrive. Are you thinking of overdriving the speakers in the L-100 and running the Leslie clean? I don't think that an L-100 has a cap in the swell pedal to adjust the gain, I could be wrong. I would check but there is too much crap infront of my L-102 to move it away from the wall. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gandert De Boo" <bottomline@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Screw Ron,put everything on full volume things go wrong. But it should be possible to make my l100 overdrive and set my leslie at house volume, right? Imean guitar sapeakers can handle (much) distortion too.
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Have you though of... WAS Re: What t402 I thinks of it :) +email
t402_owner
--- In hammond_zone@y..., "tonewheeldude" <darren@h...> wrote:
t402...doesn't pull any punches..heh.LOL that what happens to you when yo work in a top ten semiconductor company constantly fighting back hordes of engineers in far too many impromptu meetings. After a while you simply dont beat around the bush - just slash the throbbing jugular in a single sharp blow, wipe the blood from your face and ask with a smile who's next? (we wont get fooled again came to mind all of a sudden) Now that IS a problem... Raul, have you ever considered generating the sinewave through optical means instead? Ditch the coils and all that electromagnetic malarkey that goes with it. Imagine one single transparent tonewheel the size of a CD with possibly 91 sinewave gradation patterns printed on it... and I shall say no more! Off to the patents office hehehe... t402 |
Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Tonewheel generators
Ron Bell
Some organs have louder keyclick than others. A Leslie will definatley
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bring out more keyclick than the internal speakers or a tone cab. The Hammond speakers do not reproduce the same high frequencies that the treble driver in the Leslie does, so the Leslie has more pronounced keyclick. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Laddie Williams" Hi Chris,being 68, my hearing is not what it used to be, but the organ has been in the family since it was new and I don't recall any "key click" from my better hearing days. We do not have a Leslie on the A-100. Would that make the difference?
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Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob
Ron Bell
Well YES, I am cheap. Only because everytime I spend a lot of money on
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something, I find the same item for way cheaper a little while later. Now I just wait for the deals. Loves a good bargain, Ronnie Bell. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Laddie Williams" <laddieray@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob Ron,cannot disagree with either one. All of you make you arguments on good reasoning. |
Re: [hammond_zone] xb3
Laddie Williams
Happy birthday and many happy returns..
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Laddie ----- Original Message -----
From: Gandert De Boo To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: [hammond_zone] xb3 Hello you all, Today's my birthday. From this day on I am officially an adult(that's right 21). My parents gave my Live in Japan - Deep Purple and Abraxis - Santana. So there'll be a lot of Hammond plessure! Since I had to wait 30 minutes for my train, i thought it'd be nice to visit the nearest keyboardshop, which have a XB3. I know a lot of people say a XB3 isn't real. But it's a great piece of machinery if you ask me. It was hooked up to the 11 pin leslie 122. The only minor is the place of the leslie switch. There was not halfmoon switch. Another thing is that the pedals could not keep up the volume of the manuals. But i guess this a digital editable parameter I couldn't find. The overdrive is acceptable too. But when I asked the price, all of my intrest was over. 17.000 dollars including leslie. Isn't that a nice price for that new 1973 B3? maybe 15.000 becouse there ain't a leslie included. I'm still checking my neighbours to see if some one has a hammond hidden in the garage or something. Most of the people aren't aware of the value. tell then I'll stick to my L100. Now I going o listen to my new CD's! Boy is that John Lord screaming!! Gandert Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
Re: [hammond_zone] What t402 I thinks of it :) +email
Laddie Williams
You are really doing great on this. There may be other option that would not
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violate patents and still "slip in the slot" Let's wait until you see how large the patent problem really is. Laddie ----- Original Message -----
From: "Randall Bush" <raul_de_jalapeno@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] What t402 I thinks of it :) +email Hey Zoners!performing this work gratis either because of their fascenation with the project orof the patents. Far more possible, is a license arrangement of some type. IfVERY inexpensively. So we'll go into the parts business! Hehe. Since I've metall you lot, my Hammond work has increased dramatically and I haven't evensent a steady stream of amps and TWGs for reconditioning. So any parts I create |
Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob
Ron Bell
No I dont know where they are, I read this on another Hammond mailing list,
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It was posted by a well known Hammond dealer in the States. Ronnie. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Laddie Williams" Ron, |
xb3
Gandert De Boo
Hello you all,
Today's my birthday. From this day on I am officially an adult(that's right 21). My parents gave my Live in Japan - Deep Purple and Abraxis - Santana. So there'll be a lot of Hammond plessure! Since I had to wait 30 minutes for my train, i thought it'd be nice to visit the nearest keyboardshop, which have a XB3. I know a lot of people say a XB3 isn't real. But it's a great piece of machinery if you ask me. It was hooked up to the 11 pin leslie 122. The only minor is the place of the leslie switch. There was not halfmoon switch. Another thing is that the pedals could not keep up the volume of the manuals. But i guess this a digital editable parameter I couldn't find. The overdrive is acceptable too. But when I asked the price, all of my intrest was over. 17.000 dollars including leslie. Isn't that a nice price for that new 1973 B3? maybe 15.000 becouse there ain't a leslie included. I'm still checking my neighbours to see if some one has a hammond hidden in the garage or something. Most of the people aren't aware of the value. tell then I'll stick to my L100. Now I going o listen to my new CD's! Boy is that John Lord screaming!! Gandert |
Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Tonewheel generators
Chris Clifton
Hi Laddie,
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The attack characteristic or "key click" of the Hammond organ has long been part of the Hammond sound loved by jazz and rock players. It's most prominent when played through a Leslie on chorale, with a few drawbars and percussion (try 888000000 + 3rd harmonic). The effect does depend on playing style and registration used as well as the individual organ. Chris Clifton There is a theory which states that if anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. Douglas Adams ----- Original Message -----
From: "Laddie Williams" <laddieray@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Tonewheel generators Hi Chris,being 68, my hearing is not what it used to be, but the organ has been in the family since it was new and I don't recall any "key click" from my better hearing days. We do not have a Leslie on the A-100. Would that make the difference? TG and the AO-28? I guess if you wanted it to really sound like a B3 youcould use 61 9 pole relays for keying. I can't see that solid state,computer (MIDI) controlled keying would sound the same as key contacts, no keyclick for starters! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (). Version: 6.0.330 / Virus Database: 184 - Release Date: 28/02/02 |
Re: PICS
Wow, thats one clean instrument..thanks for sharing them!
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Darren --- In hammond_zone@y..., "hamtechde" <hamtechde@y...> wrote:
Wanna see my 1959 B-3. |
Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Tonewheel generators
Brian
There is a website about this on the net punch in L-100 and you should come across it.It is an extensive modification but it does sound good.You can also drop in an upper manual in the lower manual position and get 9 main busses instead of 7. OR find an M-3 instead which is a drawbar only spinet with B-3 guts. The Old Guy |
Leslie in Chicago
Randall Bush
Hi Zoners,
I have a sale pending on my C-3 to Chicago, IL. The buyer is also like to purchase locally a Leslie, preferably a 122 or 147. Any opinions on where I should send him? Thanks, Raul _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: |
Re: [hammond_zone] What I think of it WAS Re: Tonewheel generators
Have you ever tried to rebuild a piece of Victorian furniture from new
parts? I thought not,reissue parts are really handy for that,they are also usually better made and drier so they don't warp as much either.Antique cars? Same deal. I would like to see these things last another 100 yrs.or more. Ta Ta The Old Guy |
Re: [hammond_zone] Screw
Gandert De Boo
Ron,
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I have a L100. But why will the treble triver 'toast'? I understand I you put everything on full volume things go wrong. But it should be possible to make my l100 overdrive and set my leslie at house volume, right? Imean guitar sapeakers can handle (much) distortion too. Gandert ----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Bell To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:42 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Screw You dont have to remove the screws, just the little round plug. It is a variabl capacitor not a volume controll, turn it all the way clockwise, this is the quietest setting, do not turn it more than two turns counter clockwise. If you screw it fight out it is a big pain to get it back in. And like I have already posted not to much overdrive or you will toast your V-21 and these are no longer made although I have heard the 100w ferro-fluid driver from Ham-Suz is a good replacement and can stand up to a little more overdrive. Cheers Ronnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Renich" <nrenich@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Screw > Mounted on the centre of the pre-amp is a small rectangular aluminium box > about 4 inches by 3 inches. Remove the screws to reveal the volume control. > At the top is a small slotted screw which you turn left to increase > distortion or right to decrease it. Takes about 1 minute and the organ > sounds like heaven. Actually it already sounded like heaven. > ----- Original Message ----- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
Re: [hammond_zone] hooking up the Leslie 147
Gandert De Boo
Carlo,
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$10.000 would nearly cover the hammond G100, I presume? But what cabinets are you using next to the leslie ? Gandert ----- Original Message -----
From: Carlo Pietroniro To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] hooking up the Leslie 147 well Gandert, my technician offered me $10,000 for my whole set-up.......G-100, 4 cabinets, and Leslie 147. Naturally, I refused....... carlo Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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