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Jeff,
The 251 is two speed. It's like a 147 with a second 15 watt amplifier built
on the same chassis as the main 40 watt amp. for reverb when used with an
A-100.

From the Weyr and from the Bowl,
Bronze and brown and blue and green,
Rise the dragonmen of Pern,
Aloft on wing, seen, then unseen.

Chris 50 & Laura 17, Sam(uel)15 and Emily 11 in Llanelli

I asked what the group thought(a)B3 in the original box was worth...

laddie, i did not see the original post so i don't know the ser# and date. i recently bought a b3/pr40 in as near mint as possible, all tubes original hammond. it was delivered on jan 14, 1964 and never serviced, although it was protected with a layer of nicotine i am still trying to remove (any suggestions from the zone would be appreciated). i paid within 10% of the original invoice (3K) and wouldn't sell it for twice that...tg coast time is 22 seconds!!! your a minimum of 5k up to 10k to the right person. but do yourself a favor, make a deal and get it for yourself (and save the original box!). these things have last for 30+ years and you haven't started the clock yet. mike

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It really might be fun to make tone-wheel systems, but it would seem that it should be a business with the
members as stockholders. Whatever, there will come some "ownership." Because there are potentially
more who would be interested, it is adviseable to create a corporation. It is not too expensive to do this in Florida.
It is a "corporate friendly" state. I don't see why the entire system could not be laser driven in its basic design.

I'm very interested! OHF Bob

You got it, old guy!! I've saved your Email address in my "tonewheel generator resurrection" file under "material manipulation expert".

Raul

From: G6019LPOP@...
Reply-To: hammond_zone@...
To: hammond_zone@...
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Tonewheel generators
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 16:38:34 EST

The wheels are machined as are the gears,brass hubs and steel
shafts.The
bakelite gears look to be pressed or stamped,but may also be machined for
concentricity.The dividers are stamped out in one piece as are the horizontal
supports
with all the alignment nitches.the bushings are Oillite Bronze and are turned
parts.
All can be duplicated with the right tooling but the cost would be up
there.
Would it be worth it?HECK YES! Please respond Imight be interested in
partisipating I'm a machinist,toolmaker by trade.
The Old
Guy

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Hi Jeff,
I used to go to Maple Leaf gardens in Toronto when I was younger(not that
long ago as I am 26) They always had organ music during the game. They have
it at most Baseball parks too, I don't know the proper name for this kind of
music so I called hockey music;)

Da na na na na na, CHARGE!!!!
Lets Go Zoners Lets GO!!!
Ronnie.

Laddie,

I would guess at least $15,000 but I base this only on the fact about twelve years ago I heard a guy bought one new in the box for 9500.00. But looking through Ebay all these years for B3s in absolute pristine condition the most I've seen go for was 5400.00 without a Leslie. I guess it would surely be in the eyes of the beholder and if that beholder is Keyboard Exhange International where I think this B3 in question is, they would ask $50,000 for it!!! Look up Keyboard Exchange International or B3 World in Orlando on the web, they try to "save the B3s", and I believe they show a picture of a B3 carton that obviously has separate boxes for the pedals and bench...hope this helps...

Eddie BV/122

From: "Laddie Williams" <laddieray@...>

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To: <hammond_zone@...>
Subject: [hammond_zone] Re: A B3 in the Original Factory container...
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 13:31:18 -0500

I got no response from any zoners about the B3 in the original box. Maybe you did not see the question? I asked what the group thought it was worth and gave the serial number. It is true that the factory carton has never been opened...correction, it was opened just enough to make sure the box was not filled with concrete blocks. Prior to recently, it has not been for sale, but now it is. I have been asked by the owner to inquire of all you experts.. .what you reasonably think he should ask and/or what is the most he can reasonably expect to get. Please advise.

Laddie
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From: kcbass1
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 12:58 PM
Subject: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob


I understand the Hamm rep being rude a little bit, when people ask
about my ex wife(B3), I get a little offended because I have a new
wife(New B3). I`m just hoping he was referring "people like you" to
mean hobbyist as opposed to being a institution. I think it`s us
hobbyist that keeping interest in the darn thing alive. Hammond-
Suzuki better wake up and smell the latte`. Don`t they know I would
do just about anything for a one hundred pound B3 with tonewheels and
tubes? Casey






--- In hammond_zone@y..., zakemo@A... wrote:
> Hey Casey,
> Don't hold your breath for those tone wheels. The rep at
NAMM was down
> right rude when I jokingly asked about bringing back the tone
wheels and
> tubes. Made some comment to the effect, "If we did, how would
people like you
> be able to afford them?" Great PR! OHF Bob
>
>
>


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Hello All!

I was hoping you might have some ideas on distortion I'm getting through my
760!

So far, I have tried swapping the back plate amp assembly, from a known 760,
but to no avail....the sound remains muffled/distorted.

Could the power supply assembly contain the fault, or perhaps a driver is
blown!!??

I have a service manual and a simple multimeter......
and am happy to 'give it a go'

Any help gratefully received

Kevin
Leeds/UK

Jeff,

If I'm not mistaken, Keyboard Exhange International has the B3 in question. It is a new in the box 1974 model. Check out their web-site at www.b3world.com They are located in Orlando. They show a picture of the crate with three boxes (B3,bench,pedals)...FYI..Eddie

I read it and loved it-- as a reformed baseball card collector, I know what
"mint condition in the box" can mean...priceless; but in reality, you have
to find the buyer.

I'll give ya $50.00 for it. You keep the box. OHF Bob

In a message dated 3/5/02 3:32:52 PM Central Standard Time, jlc7184@...
writes:

No,are you kidding.How rare would that be if this is true.I'd say name your
price.Some high dollart collector would snap it up.Certainly not me
though.But i'd like to look at it just to say "I saw brand new 1973 B3".

Now, if he wants to give it to a good home where it will be taken good care
of and treated well.... I'll be glad to give you my phone number! George

Raul, this is getting more and more exciting!!! Wow! George

Hey Raul!
Nice to see another machinist plays a Hammond and has an interest in
redoing
the old beasts.Jeff's got a point about laser cutting some of the parts.Ihave
to correct myself, the wheels were indeed stamped,they did a really fine job
of cleaning the
shear marks from the periphery of them.I wonder if Aluminum would work for
the dividers instead of steel?It would be lighter and abit easier to work
with don't you
think?Wouldn't rust either.


Yours,
The Old Guy

Laugh not, O great one from the land of the freezer!! O else thy insolence shall deprive you from the fruitage of my labour!! a) I AM serious.... I've arranged to have the coils and filter transformers reproduced by my transformer builder....very competent man. b) I have contacted my former mentor's family in Pittsburgh and all the TWG jigs and repair tools I used 25 years ago are on the way to me. c) I've initiated a patent search to see what the current status of the TWG patent(s) is/are at present. d) My pattern maker partner is ready to set up his CAD program for multiple drilling of end plates, etc. By next week, I'll be ready to hunt down a defunct TWG to pull apart to start supplying dimensions. I can't believe Jeff just brought this out, but I've received a return call from a friend in Albuquerque you does laser CAD work. He says the tonewheels and gears will be a cinch. I've also sourced self-starting syncronous motors at a variety of RPMs for both the US and UK market. I'm going to try to keep the cost of this thing as low as possible while using no crap in it. We'll even make a unit for the spinets, eventhough they cost more than a spinet goes for, but it'll be an option. Serious enough, Ken ole' buddy?

Raul

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Reply-To: hammond_zone@...
To: hammond_zone@...
Subject: RE: [hammond_zone] Re: Tonewheel generators
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 19:57:53 -0500

Senor Raul Romero Rodriguez Hernandes Cortez Habanero de Jalapeno not
serious?!

Why, how dare you impugn the deadly serious nature of the most serious chile
peppered one!

Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries! Now, go
away and don't come back, or I shall taunt you a second time!

B(loody)C(ranky)V(itriolic)-KG

P.S. I think he might be serious. What should we do? Call 911? Administer
stimulants?

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There you go, Jeff. And once the programming and setup costs are out of the way, each piece would be cheap to make.

Raul

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To: hammond_zone@...
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 16:41:28 EST

Ken,

Regarding the tonewheels,i don't know if they were stamped even if they were
you would do it that way today.I have a friend that owns a laser cutting
business.He can cut anything,any size ANY shape.As long as a good
dimensioning is done his programmers can duplicate anything.All work is
cad/cam and is good enough for goverment work.


just my 2 1/2 cents......jeff

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Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be
replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. Douglas Adams

Laddie i think theres something wrong with yahoo. I saw your post and
responded but it didn't go through.

jeff

Well i got the hookup done but had a few problems.Ok never mind.I just went
down to re-check the wires and now the problem is gone.I was getting hum from
the main selection on the switch and very little sound fron the console
spkrs.Now i'm getting good sound fron the console and no hum????I also have
reverb from the console when in main and ensemble and no spinning reverb,just
as at should be. GO FIGURE!!!!!!!

Now i have found another problem.Its in the 47 amp.I found under the amp (2)
things that say 1000 vdc.Their about 1.5 inch long and red.Well to me they
look split,i can see what i think is a core winding or something.I don't
think this is right ??
What are these things.Also what gauge should the ac leading to the kit from
the back of the preamp be.This is where i got my power from.The wire i used
is about the same size as what is used for signal to the console spkrs off
of the ao-39.

I've had everything powered up for about 45 min in total and have not seen
any smoke or anything so i guess we must have done fairly well with this.Just
these few nagging questions i have.Oh i must say"Dog gone is this thing
loud".Sure is a big difference than just going thru the console spkrs.Wish i
had someone close that knows how to play real good to show me what this setup
can really do.


Thanks to Ron ,Raul and Ken with all your advice on setup.Buy the way Ron we
decided to use that 928 oddball kit and rewire it.The reason being is my BCV
has a 26-1 kit on it and if we used it i would'nt be able to show potential
buyers the it does indeed work and sound quite good at that.

Again thanks to all............Jeff

I have no idea, but I'd love to have it! George