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Re: [hammond_zone] 'none' harmonic
Laddie Williams
Carlo,
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You are incredible.. I sure would like to hear you play.. Where do you live in Canada? We live in Florida, but a going to travel some this summer. Please advise. Laddie and Sandra Williams ----- Original Message -----
From: Carlo Pietroniro To: Hammond Zone Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 9:07 AM Subject: [hammond_zone] 'none' harmonic which model featured the 'none' harmonic? I believe the pitch for that would be 8/9' carlo Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: [hammond_zone] leslie 122 amp
Gandert De Boo
Chris,
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I guess i should first try to get the 760 working properly. I'm satisfied whith the sound of the leslie 125. i could spent a lot of time and money. A new speaker isn't cheap too and my guess is that the bid on that 122 amp will be much higher than 100 euro's. 6 moths ago a 122 amp went for 400 dollars. But that's decided then! Gandert ----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Clifton To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] leslie 122 amp Gandert, I'm not sure if there's room for the 122 amp in the 125 cabinet, guess it could always be mounted outside the cab. if necessary. It is possible to rewire the input stages of 122 to be the same as 147, or vice versa. Easier to use the proper kit though. You will also need to change the speaker in the 125 to one capable of handling 40 watts. Chris Clifton There is a theory which states that if anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. Douglas Adams ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gandert De Boo" <bottomline@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 12:26 PM Subject: [hammond_zone] leslie 122 amp > Hi zoners, > > On the dutch ebay is a 122 amp for sale, I was wondering if itwould be possble to use it in my leslie 125. I know a 122 amp is balanced and a 125 not. But isn't there a way to make a 122 amp unbalanced? > The bid is currently on 85 dollars. > > gandert > > > > > > > Visit The Hammond Zone > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 19/02/02 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: [hammond_zone] leslie 760 amp
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Neather will that guy. Mike ----- Original Message -----
From: Gandert De Boo To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] leslie 760 amp Ken, That's high indeed. I only paid 190 euro's for it. That's about 160 dollars. a few euros for repairing the amp. But I'll never get to the 999 dollars!!!! Gandert ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken & Dianne Godfrey To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 2:07 AM Subject: RE: [hammond_zone] leslie 760 amp Hey Gandert! This is why you should fix your 760 amp: Is this guy HIGH, or what? BCV-KG > -----Original Message----- > From: Gandert De Boo [mailto:bottomline@...] > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 5:44 PM > To: hammond_zone@... > Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] leslie 760 amp > > > Chris, > > I guess I want to much. If you say the 760 amp sound fine, I just > have to believe you. I never heard one! OK I will focus from now > on to fix the 760 amp. > But first what is the most common think to look for in a broken > 760 amp? And how can I connect it to the 26-1 kit(leslie 125). > The motorswitching has almost been taken care of(thanks for that > info on the capacitors BTW). But I will need the +30v for the > crossover, AC for the amp and a signal from the hammond poweramp. > Won't this signal from the poweramp be too loud? > > Gandert > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris Clifton > To: hammond_zone@... > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:04 PM > Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] leslie 760 amp > > > Gandert, > If you want to make your 760 sound exactly like a 122, then > you'll need a 40 > watt tube amp, and a 16 ohm bass driver and crossover to match. > If I was > you I'd take the easy route and repair the 760, which is a pretty good > sound, and put the tube amp conversion on a back burner until I > could find > the right parts for the job. > Chris Clifton > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gandert De Boo" <bottomline@...> > To: <hammond_zone@...> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:13 PM > Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] leslie 760 amp > > > > Chris, > > > > You got a point there. I also am a guitar player. And indeed > nothing beats > my fender twin especially a hifi amp. Bu what should i buy > then? There were > people on the zone that by replacing the 760 amp with a tube > amp you could > have a real nice sounding leslie. What amp is meant here? > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (). > Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 19/02/2002 > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > Visit The Hammond Zone > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > Visit The Hammond Zone > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: [hammond_zone] leslie 760 amp
Gandert De Boo
Ken,
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That's high indeed. I only paid 190 euro's for it. That's about 160 dollars. a few euros for repairing the amp. But I'll never get to the 999 dollars!!!! Gandert ----- Original Message -----
From: Ken & Dianne Godfrey To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 2:07 AM Subject: RE: [hammond_zone] leslie 760 amp Hey Gandert! This is why you should fix your 760 amp: Is this guy HIGH, or what? BCV-KG > -----Original Message----- > From: Gandert De Boo [mailto:bottomline@...] > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 5:44 PM > To: hammond_zone@... > Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] leslie 760 amp > > > Chris, > > I guess I want to much. If you say the 760 amp sound fine, I just > have to believe you. I never heard one! OK I will focus from now > on to fix the 760 amp. > But first what is the most common think to look for in a broken > 760 amp? And how can I connect it to the 26-1 kit(leslie 125). > The motorswitching has almost been taken care of(thanks for that > info on the capacitors BTW). But I will need the +30v for the > crossover, AC for the amp and a signal from the hammond poweramp. > Won't this signal from the poweramp be too loud? > > Gandert > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris Clifton > To: hammond_zone@... > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:04 PM > Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] leslie 760 amp > > > Gandert, > If you want to make your 760 sound exactly like a 122, then > you'll need a 40 > watt tube amp, and a 16 ohm bass driver and crossover to match. > If I was > you I'd take the easy route and repair the 760, which is a pretty good > sound, and put the tube amp conversion on a back burner until I > could find > the right parts for the job. > Chris Clifton > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gandert De Boo" <bottomline@...> > To: <hammond_zone@...> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:13 PM > Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] leslie 760 amp > > > > Chris, > > > > You got a point there. I also am a guitar player. And indeed > nothing beats > my fender twin especially a hifi amp. Bu what should i buy > then? There were > people on the zone that by replacing the 760 amp with a tube > amp you could > have a real nice sounding leslie. What amp is meant here? > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (). > Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 19/02/2002 > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > Visit The Hammond Zone > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > Visit The Hammond Zone > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: [hammond_zone] CV and two tone cabiniets
Raul de Jalapeno
Ken? I'm worried about George....I've been told the air in Lincoln is not very good.....(sob).......now I'm sure.......(sob)(sob).....
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From: gdhiatt@... To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] CV and two tone cabiniets In a message dated 3/1/02 6:11:26 PM Central Standard Time, godfreys5@... writes: > Just like the guys (to momentarily digress into a parallel hobby) who have > some old 6-cylinder '67 Mustang sinking into the mud out behind the barn. > "That's my baby! Gonna fix 'er up some day. Wouldn't dream of partin' with > 'er...'less o'course you got 'bout 10 grand in yer back pocket!" Tell me about that!! I had two 67 Mustangs when I was in High School... I was a "gearhead" then and now i'm now into tone wheels. I worked on these things, thought they were precious, thought everybody else should think they are precious, and then when I went to sell them nobody wanted to give me any $! My mom ended up keeping one of them because she thought it was cool, got the engine rebuilt at a local vo-tech and kept it for years, and today I drive a Honda Accord (it has a stick shift, that's a remnant of my High School days) which I never open the hood on... I couldn't fix it anyway! There is a similarity between engaging the clutch and the run/start on a Hammond... In fact sometimes when I'm shifting gears and my CD player is blaring Jimmy Smith I imagine the transmission is full of tone wheels instead. A friend of mine just replaced an electronic sensor that is on the differential of his Dodge Dakota pickup described in some product literature as using "tonewheel technology." The sensor measures revolutions of a gear and that information goes to a computer to tell the truck how fast it's going. Now here's my idea: Now why not wire these sensors in to a keyboard and amp in the back of a minivan so that a a tonewheel "hammond" can be an option like power windows??? Just think of it.... Instead of watching an innane video, your restless children can bop some funky tunes as you toodle down the interstate or as Mom takes them to soccer practice. Ther'es an old Hammond ad that I've seen for sale on Ebay telling how your Hammond Organ makes children happy... and I'd add this update "In the minivan!" George Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Organ Elitists
Ken & Dianne Godfrey
George,
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I agree. The man was a true genius, in the same league with Tesla, Ford, Edison, and others. BCV-Ken -----Original Message----- |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Church Sound?
Ken & Dianne Godfrey
George,
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I think that's a pretty accurate assessment! BCV-Ken -----Original Message----- |
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Joey and the new B3 in Chicago
Bernardo Paratore
For the Chicago area wheelheads:
don't miss Joey DeFrancesco and Pat Martino plus the opportunity to hear the new B3 at the Jazz Showcase on 56 West Grand Aveune (near North Side). They are going to be there till tomorrow. I believe tomorrow there is a set at 4:00 PM as well. I was there on wednesday and had the great pleasure to meet Harv and Hammond's top brass! The new B3 sounds great expecially with Joey at the wheel (ah ah!). Bernardo |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Nees some help.....!!!!
John Brewer
Hello again Jim.
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I don't know of the condors but they could be for stadium/ big hall use. The various drawings I will send will show how these should be connected. I look forward to receiving your address. All the best. John. ----- Original Message -----
From: <jls516@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Nees some help.....!!!! Maybe I just am not happy with the Condor Sound system by |
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Re: [hammond_zone] drawbar settings
You know Linda i thought i had a problem with my a-100 when i could'nt get a
sound out of that last drawbar with the perc on.I am assuming from your comment that this is normal operation.If so,why doesn't the #9 drawbar operate with perc on but turn perc off and "presto" it works. Jeff......inquiring minds want to know ??? |
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Hammond pre-est
Carlo Pietroniro
I think they're great. He wanted to created 9 pre-set combinations, a cancel (to clear everything), and a button to activate each set of drawbars, and what better way than to create another octave of keys, and reverse the color. The first time I ever saw a Hammond organ, I thought I was looking at an organ that had 2 6-octave manuals, but when I took a closer look, I noticed what they were. Mind you, most of the Hammonds around here have none of those labels left. Thank God I had the foresight to write them all down when I did mange to find an organ that still had them all.
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Re: [hammond_zone] I'll Try again sry bad link
Ken & Dianne Godfrey
Raul,
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Cool site! But I think our friend Mr. Tucker has WAY much free time on his hands. Just hysterical, though. BCV-Ken -----Original Message----- |
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Re: [hammond_zone] installing half moons
Jeff;
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It may have been about upstop felts from Peter. Mike - For the upper keyboard, it's a piece o duck. Just pull the 6 screws off the name rail, and pull it off (It's usually kinda stuck on there because of the sticky stuff between the name rail and the manual assy) For the lower, it's the usual drill. Pull the 4 screws off of the music rack rail, move it up and out of the way. Remove the 4 carriage bolts from underneath the organ (2 on each side). There may be a metal plate with 4 screws in the center of the lower keybord holding it to the wood from the bottom. Remove 2 of these screws. Put heavy (but thin) cardboard (or the Trek II fiberglass protectors - see - very cool!) to protect the wood on either side of the cabinet. Lift the keyboards up and prop them with some wood blocks on each side. Then you can remove the name rail on the bottom. As long as the rails are out, if you need to do any repainting or cleaning, now's the time. Best of luck. ----- Original Message -----
From: jlc7184@... To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 1:19 AM Subject: [hammond_zone] installing half moons I hate when this happens.Earlier in the day i read something somewhere about removing the manuals on an a100.Well NOW i need to raise them up alittle to get the wiring from the switches inside the back.Problem is i don't remember where i read this info.Can anyone point me in the right direction.I know it's not difficult i would just like to read through the instructions before doing the job. THANKS.....jeff Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Church Sound?
Carlo Pietroniro
Allens are great! I visited their website yesterday, and I'm very pleased to see that they now offer several model with sub and super couplers, which were, for the longest time, completely non-existent on most Allens. Some of the multiple-computer models had the sub-octaver on the swell manual (L and R, if it was a multi-computer model), but NEVER anything like 'swell to great 16' and 'swell to great 4'.
Someone once told me that if an organ is properly voice, there's never any need for couplers at the sub and super pitches.........which I think is a load of s**t. Supers and subs have been on organs for hundreds of years, and some of us can't live without them. 99% of the french romantic repertoire (Dupre, Vierne, Widor, Durufle), calls for them! carlo |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Looke here,looke here, Have you seen this yet????
Ken & Dianne Godfrey
I don't know...I remember hearing some less-than-impressed opinions after
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NAMM on the Zone, here. BCV-KG -----Original Message----- Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Organ Elitists
Ken & Dianne Godfrey
carlo,
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Thanks for the info. I was aware of the differences, but I'm sure many of us weren't. The point I was trying to make was that it seems a pretty safe guess that back in '34 Hammond was trying to sell his new invention to organists, though it's arguable whether it was truly an organ by the definition in place at that time. Even with 20/20 hindsight, it was more of an additive synthesizer than an organ. I think he wanted to give organists controls that were at least visually familiar, even though the function was somewhat different. The drawbar frequencies do correspond to pipe footages in use on pipe organs of the time, even though they're not labeled as such. But, being created by sine wave generators, they all sounded the same. It was like a single rank organ. In order to duplicate different ranks of pipes, like Tibias, or Diapasons, he would have needed separate Tone Generators, with different filters, and more sets of Drawbars. Pipe organ builders made mechanical changes, such as wood vs. brass pipes, and using different reeds to achieve this. But, the Hammond organ wasn't an attempt to perfectly duplicate a pipe organ, with electrical sound generation. It was a completely new instrument. I'm sure that Laurens felt he was able to create a more logical layout, by starting with a clean sheet of paper. He used the possibilities that electrical control gave him to "improve" on an existing idea by making the volume of each stop variable. Pipe organ designs are based on centuries of trial-and-error. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but that wasn't Laurens Hammond. He was an innovator who always believed in thinking "outside the box". Now, where he ever got the idea to have an octave of reverse-color keys at the lower end of the manuals, and use them as "presets" (in synthesizer lingo), or "rank couplers" (these originally had labels with names that at least sounded familiar to organists), is anybody's guess. (Of course, pipe organs don't have true vibrato, or percussive sounds, either.) If you look at the Model E, released just a couple of years after the A, its presets are typewriter keys, and are labeled with names. I think this was in response to organists who didn't like the unorthodox preset keys. This was also the first Hammond with the AGO 32-note pedal. It also had foot pistons, and two expression pedals, one for Swell, and one for Great & Pedal. It had more traditional organ-like features than the A, B, C and D models. In truth, Hammond had developed something new, and unique, and wonderful, but the only hope he had of selling them, was to swing musicians his way by marketing it as an improved version of an existing instrument. Note the failure of his amazing Novachord, which was SO different, that it couldn't be wedged into an existing niche, and musicians of the time had no idea how to play it. In the end, Hammond must have been right on target with his combination of cutting-edge technology and traditional organ trappings in a parlor piano-looking package. He sold untold thousands of them over a 40-year period. They are so highly-regarded today, that many people are still trying to copy the sound, controls design, and appearance. In fact, I think it's safe to say that Hammond permanently changed the definition of "organ". BCV-KG -----Original Message----- |
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