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Which Clone?

 

Hi all,
I'm new to the group and to the Hammond. I'm thinking
of purchasing a new clone and am looking for
recommendations: Roland Vk-7, Hammond XK-2, Korg
CX-3,
Clavia Nord Electro

Pros? Cons? Faves? Dislikes?

Thanks!

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Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Which Clone?

 

I'm with Casey on all points. I tote an XB-2 going through a KBR-3D and it's
pretty damn close. OHF BOB


Re: [hammond_zone] Which Clone?

 

I have been having a bonding experience at a local music store with a Korg
CX-3. I would have it home by now except for some strange reason, the store
owner keeps insisting I should fork over $1900+ before leaving with it.
Haven't compared it to it's clone competitors, but my current home rig is a
Hammond XTP-50 tone wheel organ, and the Korg runs circles around it. As
soon as I can find someone to 'adopt' the XTP, I plan to acquire the Korg.

Best feature - 64 presets - all with digitally displayed names - many with
obvious references to the players or songs who made that particular preset
famous. Beats having to catalog a lot of drawbar combinations. The Leslie
simulation is great too.

The Korg is a low cost - low maintenance - easy learning curve way to get 95%
of the B3 /Leslie sound.

But, it still isn't a B3! As one local musician said, a B3 isn't just a
sound, it's an experience, and the experience just isn't the same with any
clone. Even though I plan to get the Korg, I still see a B3 in my future as
well.

Keep us posted on your decision.

Regards,
J.E. Skinner


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hello,
i`m ilke from turkey i just joined this group and i`m sure this will help me about my needs..i`ve 2 hammonds one of them is a tr200 and i am looking for a leslie cabinet for my hammond.if you are close to turkey or germany and i u know places sells leslie and hammond please contact with me in a short while..
?i `ll be waiting for your answers..
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Re: [hammond_zone] Old Farts Motto

Dan and Connie Sinasac
 

Zakemo
Absolutely! And at what volume! Bare with me for this story. I was
in a nine piece band, git, bass, drums, two trumpets, sax, trombone, a
Janis Joplin clone on git and keys and our front man 6 foot 5 inches
tall and sing like a madman, in fact 8 of us sang. Had a gig in a small
town, two weeks-six nights/week, the owner, a grey haired bent up old
dude, kept coming up and telling us to turn it down. Out of spite we
played as quitely as humanly possible, the grey dude came back up and
said that's perfect. Someone on the other side of the bar put a coin in
the juke box and we could honestly hear the music while we were playing.
We continued to play this way and after two weeks there was a noteable
improvement, we listened to each other better and the tunes really
tightened up, it was wonderful practice. The band was smokin' but just
to big to get paid anything worthwhile. BTW I was playing trumpet and
doubling on keys.
Don't forget to leave spaces...
Thanks again for putting up with the story.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: zakemo@... [mailto:zakemo@...]
Sent: August 31, 2001 7:03 PM
To: hammond_zone@...
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Old Farts Motto


Food for thought;
A GOOD MUSICIAN KNOWS WHEN NOT TO PLAY.


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Re: [hammond_zone] Old Farts Unite!!!

Dan and Connie Sinasac
 

Jimmy
Ya know this isn't a crazy idea, it could turn out to be a blast, if
not at least a nice little holiday for us. Got me thinkin' now.

Dan S. (there is another Dan S. in Danville near Oakland, we'll have
to see if we can stir up some interest).

-----Original Message-----
From: Jimmy Lange [mailto:jlange@...]
Sent: August 31, 2001 12:11 PM
To: hammond_zone@...
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Old Farts Unite!!!


Hey Dan & Connie,
See ya' in Denver in the spring. I'll bring
my B-3 / 122 rig and see if I can dig up at
least one other that we can drag in there.
I also have a full 2500 watt P.A. that we
use if the house isn't wired for sound!
Keep me posted...we good drag a
pretty good bunch of folks in there I think!
Keep it spinnin',
Jimmy

Dan and Connie Sinasac wrote:

Jimmy
One old fart here, originally from Detroit/ Windsor area, that's my
roots anyway. Living in Edmonton Alberta Can. I have friends in Denver
where there is a cool club if that is central maybe next spring we
should meet there, just a thought. Anyone else located in north
America close to Denver?

I gotta go to bed sheez, getting' old.
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jimmy Lange [mailto:jlange@...]
Sent: August 30, 2001 11:36 PM
To: hammond_zone@...
Subject: [hammond_zone] Old Farts Unite!!!

Hey old Farts,
I'm proud to be in your company and I'd
give about anything to rent a local blues stage
somewhere and have a OLD B-3 HIPPIE
FART SUMMIT! Drag a couple three
Hammonds and a stack o' Leslies in there
and show 'em what it's supposed to feel like.
We'd curdle some milk wouldn't we?
Hmmmm....where do you guys live?.....
Keep it Spinnin',
Jimmy

zakemo@... wrote:

Dan,
Yeah, us old farts got to stick together! We do have a
purpose too. To steer and teach the young farts. I've got a 16yr old
boy who cooks on guitar and runs rings around his crowd. I schooled
him in the classics such as Hendrix, Clapton, Carlos, and the like.
He
takes apart and shreds on tunes by the afore mentioned while his
buddies feel accomplished figuring out in what order the two chords
to
some Blink 82 go. He joined myself and a tribe of other OHFs for a
charity gig. We did good old, GET YER MOJO WORKING rock.You can't
imagine a fathers pride when I looked over and saw my boy firing it
up. There was more than one tear making my keyboards slippery, no
shit! Anyways, if we don't do that, who we got to backup? (ha ha).
Well I've 'bout bored you guys enough unless others think this is
interesting, I know I
enjoy your guys experiences. PS It's twelve midnight. Do you know
what
YOUR kids are playing??? OHF BOB


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Re: [hammond_zone] Old Farts Unite!!!

Dan and Connie Sinasac
 

Guys!!!
It doesn't matter the age, either you have the passion or ya don't,
then it's a matter of chops. I still have the same passion for it from
when I was 16, can't explain it very well but I can play it.

Spin it til it smokes dude
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jimmy Lange [mailto:jlange@...]
Sent: August 31, 2001 12:06 PM
To: hammond_zone@...
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Old Farts Unite!!!


Hey Dave,
Yeah man, good for you! Didn't mean to
sound like it's some exclusive or anything. It
would be great to see the B-3 spanning the
generations, in the way that only music seems
to be able to do! Glad to have ya'...we could
probably all learn some new tricks, even the
" old dogs ".
Keep it spinnin',
Jimmy

Dave Cohen wrote:

but i'm not an old fart..... i'm 16 and i can rip it up i think

Dave

Dave Cohen wrote:

Canada

Jimmy Lange wrote:

Hey old Farts,
I'm proud to be in your company and I'd
give about anything to rent a local blues stage
somewhere and have a OLD B-3 HIPPIE
FART SUMMIT! Drag a couple three
Hammonds and a stack o' Leslies in there
and show 'em what it's supposed to feel like.
We'd curdle some milk wouldn't we?
Hmmmm....where do you guys live?.....
Keep it Spinnin',
Jimmy

zakemo@... wrote:

Dan,
Yeah, us old farts got to stick together! We do have a
purpose too. To steer and teach the young farts. I've got a 16yr
old boy who cooks on guitar and runs rings around his crowd. I
schooled him in the classics such as Hendrix, Clapton, Carlos,
and the like. He takes apart and shreds on tunes by the afore
mentioned while his buddies feel accomplished figuring out in
what order the two chords to some Blink 82 go. He joined myself
and a tribe of other OHFs for a charity gig. We did good old,
GET YER MOJO WORKING rock.You can't imagine a fathers pride when
I looked over and saw my boy firing it up. There was more than
one tear making my keyboards slippery, no shit! Anyways, if we
don't do that, who we got to backup? (ha ha). Well I've 'bout bored you
guys enough unless others think this is interesting, I know I
enjoy your guys experiences. PS It's twelve midnight. Do you
know what
YOUR kids are playing??? OHF BOB


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Re: [hammond_zone] Old Farts Motto

 

Food for thought;
A GOOD MUSICIAN KNOWS WHEN NOT TO PLAY.


Re: [hammond_zone] Old Farts with style?

 

We used to have a drummer nick-named Phil Allgaps who couldn't understand
that silence was mightier than a drumchop, his technique was really awesome
but he really got up the lead guitarist's nose. It got to the stage that we
were all waiting for the chance of a 'fill' so we all dived in at every
opportunity....terrible sound!

Then we grew up....we were all about 40 by then, thinner on top, thicker
round the middle but the music was a lot more solid too.

Long live the HZ

Rod.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jimmy Lange <jlange@...>
To: <hammond_zone@...>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 9:54 PM
Subject: [hammond_zone] Old Farts with style?


Style....now there's an elusive goal! For
sure the use of the expression pedal is a
great start and a big part of the unique
Hammond sound. But in general, I'd just try
to leave some holes. ( of course the hot dog
guitarist will probably fill 'em up! ) Like when
we talk, we need to take a breath right?
How much do you enjoy talking with
someone who never seems to take a breath
or let you get a word in edgewise?...not much
fun in music OR conversation. Just my $.02
I'm sure you're coming along just fine and
we're so glad and fortunate to have young
folks like yourself carrying on the tradition of
these great ol' music makers. Us old hippie
farts won't be able to carry these things forever.
Would ya' stop and give us a hand if you see
us struggling on a flight of stairs? Thanks!
Can't wait to hear your first CD! Have you
recorded much yet? Love to hear anything you
have!
Keep it spinnin',
Jimmy



Dave Cohen wrote:

for sure jimmy,,, i need style... i have all the technical playing
there.. but i dont
think i have much style

Dave


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Old Farts with style?

Jimmy Lange
 

Style....now there's an elusive goal! For
sure the use of the expression pedal is a
great start and a big part of the unique
Hammond sound. But in general, I'd just try
to leave some holes. ( of course the hot dog
guitarist will probably fill 'em up! ) Like when
we talk, we need to take a breath right?
How much do you enjoy talking with
someone who never seems to take a breath
or let you get a word in edgewise?...not much
fun in music OR conversation. Just my $.02
I'm sure you're coming along just fine and
we're so glad and fortunate to have young
folks like yourself carrying on the tradition of
these great ol' music makers. Us old hippie
farts won't be able to carry these things forever.
Would ya' stop and give us a hand if you see
us struggling on a flight of stairs? Thanks!
Can't wait to hear your first CD! Have you
recorded much yet? Love to hear anything you
have!
Keep it spinnin',
Jimmy



Dave Cohen wrote:

for sure jimmy,,, i need style... i have all the technical playing there.. but i dont
think i have much style

Dave


Re: [hammond_zone] Old Farts Unite!!!

Dave Cohen
 

for sure jimmy,,, i need style... i have all the technical playing there.. but i dont
think i have much style

Dave

Jimmy Lange wrote:

Hey Dave,
Yeah man, good for you! Didn't mean to
sound like it's some exclusive or anything. It
would be great to see the B-3 spanning the
generations, in the way that only music seems
to be able to do! Glad to have ya'...we could
probably all learn some new tricks, even the
" old dogs ".
Keep it spinnin',
Jimmy

Dave Cohen wrote:

but i'm not an old fart..... i'm 16 and i can rip it up i think

Dave

Dave Cohen wrote:

Canada

Jimmy Lange wrote:

Hey old Farts,
I'm proud to be in your company and I'd
give about anything to rent a local blues stage
somewhere and have a OLD B-3 HIPPIE
FART SUMMIT! Drag a couple three
Hammonds and a stack o' Leslies in there
and show 'em what it's supposed to feel like.
We'd curdle some milk wouldn't we?
Hmmmm....where do you guys live?.....
Keep it Spinnin',
Jimmy

zakemo@... wrote:

Dan,
Yeah, us old farts got to stick together! We do have a purpose too.
To steer and teach the young farts. I've got a 16yr old boy who cooks on
guitar and runs rings around his crowd. I schooled him in the classics such
as Hendrix, Clapton, Carlos, and the like. He takes apart and shreds on tunes
by the afore mentioned while his buddies feel accomplished figuring out in
what order the two chords to some Blink 82 go. He joined myself and a tribe
of other OHFs for a charity gig. We did good old, GET YER MOJO WORKING
rock.You can't imagine a fathers pride when I looked over and saw my boy
firing it up. There was more than one tear making my keyboards slippery, no
shit! Anyways, if we don't do that, who we got to backup? (ha ha). Well I've
'bout bored you guys enough unless others think this is interesting, I know I
enjoy your guys experiences. PS It's twelve midnight. Do you know what
YOUR kids are playing??? OHF BOB


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Re: [hammond_zone] Old Farts Unite!!!

Jimmy Lange
 

Hey Dan & Connie,
See ya' in Denver in the spring. I'll bring
my B-3 / 122 rig and see if I can dig up at
least one other that we can drag in there.
I also have a full 2500 watt P.A. that we
use if the house isn't wired for sound!
Keep me posted...we good drag a
pretty good bunch of folks in there I think!
Keep it spinnin',
Jimmy

Dan and Connie Sinasac wrote:

Jimmy
One old fart here, originally from Detroit/ Windsor area, that's my
roots anyway. Living in Edmonton Alberta Can. I have friends in Denver
where there is a cool club if that is central maybe next spring we
should meet there, just a thought. Anyone else located in north America
close to Denver?

I gotta go to bed sheez, getting' old.
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jimmy Lange [mailto:jlange@...]
Sent: August 30, 2001 11:36 PM
To: hammond_zone@...
Subject: [hammond_zone] Old Farts Unite!!!

Hey old Farts,
I'm proud to be in your company and I'd
give about anything to rent a local blues stage
somewhere and have a OLD B-3 HIPPIE
FART SUMMIT! Drag a couple three
Hammonds and a stack o' Leslies in there
and show 'em what it's supposed to feel like.
We'd curdle some milk wouldn't we?
Hmmmm....where do you guys live?.....
Keep it Spinnin',
Jimmy

zakemo@... wrote:

Dan,
Yeah, us old farts got to stick together! We do have a
purpose too. To steer and teach the young farts. I've got a 16yr old
boy who cooks on guitar and runs rings around his crowd. I schooled
him in the classics such as Hendrix, Clapton, Carlos, and the like. He
takes apart and shreds on tunes by the afore mentioned while his
buddies feel accomplished figuring out in what order the two chords to
some Blink 82 go. He joined myself and a tribe of other OHFs for a
charity gig. We did good old, GET YER MOJO WORKING rock.You can't
imagine a fathers pride when I looked over and saw my boy firing it
up. There was more than one tear making my keyboards slippery, no
shit! Anyways, if we don't do that, who we got to backup? (ha ha).
Well I've 'bout bored you guys enough unless others think this is
interesting, I know I
enjoy your guys experiences. PS It's twelve midnight. Do you know
what
YOUR kids are playing??? OHF BOB


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Re: [hammond_zone] Old Farts Unite!!!

Jimmy Lange
 

Hey Dave,
Yeah man, good for you! Didn't mean to
sound like it's some exclusive or anything. It
would be great to see the B-3 spanning the
generations, in the way that only music seems
to be able to do! Glad to have ya'...we could
probably all learn some new tricks, even the
" old dogs ".
Keep it spinnin',
Jimmy

Dave Cohen wrote:

but i'm not an old fart..... i'm 16 and i can rip it up i think

Dave

Dave Cohen wrote:

Canada

Jimmy Lange wrote:

Hey old Farts,
I'm proud to be in your company and I'd
give about anything to rent a local blues stage
somewhere and have a OLD B-3 HIPPIE
FART SUMMIT! Drag a couple three
Hammonds and a stack o' Leslies in there
and show 'em what it's supposed to feel like.
We'd curdle some milk wouldn't we?
Hmmmm....where do you guys live?.....
Keep it Spinnin',
Jimmy

zakemo@... wrote:

Dan,
Yeah, us old farts got to stick together! We do have a purpose too.
To steer and teach the young farts. I've got a 16yr old boy who cooks on
guitar and runs rings around his crowd. I schooled him in the classics such
as Hendrix, Clapton, Carlos, and the like. He takes apart and shreds on tunes
by the afore mentioned while his buddies feel accomplished figuring out in
what order the two chords to some Blink 82 go. He joined myself and a tribe
of other OHFs for a charity gig. We did good old, GET YER MOJO WORKING
rock.You can't imagine a fathers pride when I looked over and saw my boy
firing it up. There was more than one tear making my keyboards slippery, no
shit! Anyways, if we don't do that, who we got to backup? (ha ha). Well I've
'bout bored you guys enough unless others think this is interesting, I know I
enjoy your guys experiences. PS It's twelve midnight. Do you know what
YOUR kids are playing??? OHF BOB


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Re: [hammond_zone] Song suggestions?

Jones, Leonard LT
 

Richard Groove Holmes, in my opinion, is your only choice. You already have
Jimmie and Joey. Try one of the following CD titles:

(1) After Hours
(2) Groovin' with Groove
(3) Groove's Grove

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Cohen [mailto:skorpion9@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 7:55 PM
To: hammond_zone@...
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Song suggestions?


I have a 20$ gift certificate to HMV (cd store) what cd should i buy
if i want good hammond..... i have all of joey D and jimmy

any good blues organ

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----- Original Message -----
From: bernie.delaney@...
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Cc: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Song suggestions?



Hi guys, My name is Bernie, and I live in Australia. This is
the first time
I've actually wrote to the group, but have read your
interesting letters
and ideas for a few months now.
I have a video at home I listen watch now and then, it's a
concert
performed by Roger Walters? ( Not sure of his surname), (ex
Pink) and
friends, Its called the wall, and was performed when the
Berlin Wall came
down, not real sure of the details, but anyhow what remained
in my mind was
the solo part played on a Hammond in 'Another Brick in the
Wall'. It was a
fantastic sound.

I do play myself, unfortunately I don't have a Hammond, but
I love the
sound and quite enjoy listening to a few albums I have such
as Klaus
Wunderlich. My father has of album of a guy named Earle (?)
Grant, and I'm
sure he played a Hammond, but he had quite a unique style of
playing.

Cheers,
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Re: [hammond_zone] Generator oil

Iain Meikle
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Lafarge [SMTP:tatane79@...]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:21 PM
To: hammond_zone@...
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Generator oil

Hi,

Well, my local Hammond Organ reparator put some "Huile d'Amande douce" as>
oil (it's in French, maybe we can translate it by : "Sweet Almond Oil".
It's
a kind of pretty fluid (like kitchen oil), water-color like, and normaly>
used for hand-care and skin care.
I use it now, and it works perfectly. And it's really cheap !

Regards,

Jonathan.


From: "sjaako@wish" <sjaako@...>
Reply-To: hammond_zone@...
To: <hammond_zone@...>
Subject: [hammond_zone] Generator oil
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:50:05 +0200

Hi all,

Is there a commercial/standard substitute for the original hammond
Tonewheel generator oil?

Sjaako

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Re: [hammond_zone] Old Farts Unite!!!

 

Hey Dave, You may be 16 but it sounds like ya got an old soul. Feel included.
OHF BOB


Re: [hammond_zone] Old Farts Unite!!!

 

Dan,
I'm in San Diego. Denver? Quite a possibility. OHF BOB


Re: [hammond_zone] Generator oil

 

Hi,

Well, my local Hammond Organ reparator put some "Huile d'Amande douce" as oil (it's in French, maybe we can translate it by : "Sweet Almond Oil". It's a kind of pretty fluid (like kitchen oil), water-color like, and normaly used for hand-care and skin care.
I use it now, and it works perfectly. And it's really cheap !

Regards,

Jonathan.


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Reply-To: hammond_zone@...
To: <hammond_zone@...>
Subject: [hammond_zone] Generator oil
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:50:05 +0200

Hi all,

Is there a commercial/standard substitute for the original hammond Tonewheel generator oil?

Sjaako

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Re: [hammond_zone] Re: start motor trick

Dave McCracken
 

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Linda Dachtyl <lindaleed@...> writes:
Yes...but don't wait too long to turn it back on OR the song will be over...LOL!
Just turn the switch to start briefly.? That engages the start motor and the TG whirs a bit faster (instead of slower first).? The TG can't cut off becuase you don't remove power.?
?
Turning off then on obviously just removes current for a second.? The pitch does drop in that instance then races a little ahead and then settles back.? You have the chances of losing too much inertia and it cuts off, you are right.? Briefly enganging the start motor speeds the shaft up a bit and then back down.? Wont cut off.? Anyway obviously not great for your start motor.?? Once you do it a few times you'll get pretty bored with it.? A relatively useless little trick.?
?
Possibly a bit jaded,
?
Dave McCracken
?
?
?
?


Re: [hammond_zone]"Not once will his fingers leave his hands..."

 

Well this is what I was always told, but I wasn't there myself!

I have both versions of Lee's "Stormy Monday" but always liked the live version better on the double lp "Lee Michaels Live". I think this has been reissued. Keith Knudsen who went on to play with Doobies and others was the drummer on this one.

Linda

zakemo@... wrote:

Linda,
???????? IMO is?? The difference between a BC and a B3 besides the foldback
factor? I helped transport Michaels rig and could have sworn it was a B3 and
at one time carried a C3. But like the saying goes, "If you can remember
those days, you weren't there."?? O.H.F.??? BOB