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Smoker contamination removal


 

Gonna try and detox an ACOM 1500 amp previously owned by a smoker ham,
anyone ever have to remove the niccotine film before maybe with chemicals?

Contact cleaner wont take it off, alcohol on a rag seems to dissolve it, so I may
try that with small toothbrushes to get into the tight spots.

I read someone once hung a smoker contaminated ham rigg from a wire in their garage
and put cardboard under it, and soaked it inside and out with WD40, let it penetrate overnight
and said it yielded good results. Not sure about that tho.


--
Steve Hearns [ KA2PTE ]
Technotronic Dimensions, VT [USA]
WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM
E-Mail: Steve@...


 

I have had GREAT success using Oxygen Orange I get from the Dollar Store. Great stuff and cost $1.25 last time I purchased it. Made a SB 220 rf section look like new.

On Saturday, November 16, 2024 at 10:58:12 AM EST, Technotronic Dimensions <steve@...> wrote:



Gonna try and detox an ACOM 1500 amp previously owned by a smoker ham,
anyone ever have to remove the niccotine film before maybe with chemicals?

Contact cleaner wont take it off, alcohol on a rag seems to dissolve it, so
I may
try that with small toothbrushes to get into the tight spots.

I read someone once hung a smoker contaminated ham rigg from a wire in their
garage
and put cardboard under it, and soaked it inside and out with WD40, let it
penetrate overnight
and said it yielded good results. Not sure about that tho.


--
Steve Hearns [ KA2PTE ]
Technotronic Dimensions, VT [USA]
WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM
E-Mail: Steve@...






 

You need to use Zep 505, Fantastic, or Greased Lightning, which you can buy at Home Depot. They are all similar compositions and will turn nicotine into liquid that can be washed off.

I used to work for Tektronix as a Field Engineer and every service center had a spray booth where equipment could be hosed down with Zep concentrate diluted with DI water. Once the Zep had worked its magic and was still wet, the unit was sprayed again with DI water to wash out all the crud and blown dry with an air gun. Following that, the piece was put into an environmental chamber to bake out all the moisture. You can do the same thing at home. I have lost count of how many pieces of electronic gear I have cleaned the crud out of in the bathtub. Set whatever you need to clean on a towel you don't care about so the tub does not get scratched up, squirt the cleaner liberally everywhere, let it sit for a while, then flush the crud out with a shower wand, and blow it dry. If your oven is big enough you can put the piece in there on low hear (150 degrees F or so) and bake it for a few hours. If you can't fit the piece in the oven a good hair dryer set on low or medium will do the trick, but it takes longer than the over to get things dried out and then you should need to be sure things are completely dry before you apply power. The only caveat is you should remove any parts that can't get wet before the wash cycle. Most well-made power transformers are varnished and should be OK. If you are not sure pull the transformer first.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Technotronic Dimensions
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2024 10:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ham-amplifiers] Smoker contamination removal


Gonna try and detox an ACOM 1500 amp previously owned by a smoker ham, anyone ever have to remove the niccotine film before maybe with chemicals?

Contact cleaner wont take it off, alcohol on a rag seems to dissolve it, so I may try that with small toothbrushes to get into the tight spots.

I read someone once hung a smoker contaminated ham rigg from a wire in their garage and put cardboard under it, and soaked it inside and out with WD40, let it penetrate overnight and said it yielded good results. Not sure about that tho.


--
Steve Hearns [ KA2PTE ]
Technotronic Dimensions, VT [USA]
WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM
E-Mail: Steve@...


 

I think Howard Mills, W3HM used 3 parts Fantastic to one part ammonia. He would wash and rinse in full sunshine to dry. Also if the 'leader' of the house doesn't want your stuff in the oven, you can use something along the lines of a styrofoam 'cooler' with a 60 watt bulb underneath the amp, or build one out of that 'blue styrofoam' insulation using shish-kabob spits to connect the joints. I would check the temperature with an IR or cooking thermometer so it doesn't get too hot.

Mod-U-Lator,
Mike(y)/W3SLK

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Omni
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2024 11:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Smoker contamination removal

You need to use Zep 505, Fantastic, or Greased Lightning, which you can buy at Home Depot. They are all similar compositions and will turn nicotine into liquid that can be washed off.

I used to work for Tektronix as a Field Engineer and every service center had a spray booth where equipment could be hosed down with Zep concentrate diluted with DI water. Once the Zep had worked its magic and was still wet, the unit was sprayed again with DI water to wash out all the crud and blown dry with an air gun. Following that, the piece was put into an environmental chamber to bake out all the moisture. You can do the same thing at home. I have lost count of how many pieces of electronic gear I have cleaned the crud out of in the bathtub. Set whatever you need to clean on a towel you don't care about so the tub does not get scratched up, squirt the cleaner liberally everywhere, let it sit for a while, then flush the crud out with a shower wand, and blow it dry. If your oven is big enough you can put the piece in there on low hear (150 degrees F or so) and bake it for a few hours. If you can't fit the piece in the oven a good hair dryer set on low or medium will do the trick, but it takes longer than the over to get things dried out and then you should need to be sure things are completely dry before you apply power. The only caveat is you should remove any parts that can't get wet before the wash cycle. Most well-made power transformers are varnished and should be OK. If you are not sure pull the transformer first.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Technotronic Dimensions
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2024 10:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ham-amplifiers] Smoker contamination removal


Gonna try and detox an ACOM 1500 amp previously owned by a smoker ham, anyone ever have to remove the niccotine film before maybe with chemicals?

Contact cleaner wont take it off, alcohol on a rag seems to dissolve it, so I may try that with small toothbrushes to get into the tight spots.

I read someone once hung a smoker contaminated ham rigg from a wire in their garage and put cardboard under it, and soaked it inside and out with WD40, let it penetrate overnight and said it yielded good results. Not sure about that tho.


--
Steve Hearns [ KA2PTE ]
Technotronic Dimensions, VT [USA]
WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM
E-Mail: Steve@...


 

I use the dishwasher...with no soap. I just strip the radio/amp of all parts that water would damage, then run the remains through the dishwasher. Comes out like new. Pop it in the oven at 'keep warm' temp (Older ovens, that would be 150 to 200°) Then use simple green for everything else.

Joe - W7RKN

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Sawyer via groups.io
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Smoker contamination removal

I think Howard Mills, W3HM used 3 parts Fantastic to one part ammonia. He would wash and rinse in full sunshine to dry. Also if the 'leader' of the house doesn't want your stuff in the oven......


 

In addition to Oxygen Orange, the Dollar Stores in Kentucky have a spray cleaning product named "Awesome" that comes in quart spray bottles and gallon refills.

This is the best nicotine/tar remover I have ever seen. It is light yellow in color, and stinks like dirty sox, hi. BUT, spray it on and the brown nicotine/tar flows off of the item. I keep spraying until all the brown flow is gone and wash the item off with tap water then distilled or deionized water.

Oxygen Orange seems to be the same as Awesome, as well as Awesome Orange.

To think what cigarettes do to our lungs......

73 Bill N4LG

At 11:07 AM 11/16/2024, mike repinski via groups.io wrote:
I have had GREAT success using Oxygen Orange I get from the Dollar Store. Great stuff and cost $1.25 last time I purchased it. Made a SB 220 rf section look like new.

On Saturday, November 16, 2024 at 10:58:12 AM EST, Technotronic Dimensions <steve@...> wrote:



Gonna try and detox an ACOM 1500 amp previously owned by a smoker ham,
anyone ever have to remove the niccotine film before maybe with chemicals?

Contact cleaner wont take it off, alcohol on a rag seems to dissolve it, so
I may
try that with small toothbrushes to get into the tight spots.

I read someone once hung a smoker contaminated ham rigg from a wire in their
garage
and put cardboard under it, and soaked it inside and out with WD40, let it
penetrate overnight
and said it yielded good results. Not sure about that tho.


--
Steve Hearns [ KA2PTE ]
Technotronic Dimensions, VT [USA]
WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM
E-Mail: <mailto:Steve@...>Steve@...






 

I bought a high quality (high power) 70s receiver about 20 years ago. I am still using it. When I got it, the whole thing was covered front and back with whatever cigarette smoke puts on things. It was thick and oily. I used some cleaner that I don't remember. But, the point is that this receivers front face and wood cabinet were in pristine condition after cleaning. I believe the cigarette smoke preserves surfaces. So, if you see a second hand piece of gear somewhere covered with this cigarette goop, snap it up. It is always easy to repair the circuit, but much more difficult to repair the outside surfaces that show. I don't recommend smoking to preserve your own gear. I think your lungs have a greater priority.?


 

I tried some carburator cleaner, it worked but a little to aggressive,
it wiped off some numbering on a relay.

Tried some lemon ammonia and Fantastic just now, and yep, that penetrates pretty quickly
and seems to wipe off the tar and stains. It seems to deaden the bad smell too as a bonus.

I will have to disassemble it some more to get at the tough spots, and monitor ventilation and air
flow....but I confirm, this mix does work, thanks.

--
Steve Hearns [ KA2PTE ]
Technotronic Dimensions, VT [USA]
WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM
E-Mail: Steve@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Sawyer via groups.io" <w3slk@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2024 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Smoker contamination removal


I think Howard Mills, W3HM used 3 parts Fantastic to one part ammonia. He would wash and rinse in full sunshine to dry. Also if the 'leader' of the house doesn't want your stuff in the oven, you can use something along the lines of a styrofoam 'cooler' with a 60 watt bulb underneath the amp, or build one out of that 'blue styrofoam' insulation using shish-kabob spits to connect the joints. I would check the temperature with an IR or cooking thermometer so it doesn't get too hot.

Mod-U-Lator,
Mike(y)/W3SLK



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Omni
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2024 11:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Smoker contamination removal

You need to use Zep 505, Fantastic, or Greased Lightning, which you can buy at Home Depot. They are all similar compositions and will turn nicotine into liquid that can be washed off.

I used to work for Tektronix as a Field Engineer and every service center had a spray booth where equipment could be hosed down with Zep concentrate diluted with DI water. Once the Zep had worked its magic and was still wet, the unit was sprayed again with DI water to wash out all the crud and blown dry with an air gun. Following that, the piece was put into an environmental chamber to bake out all the moisture. You can do the same thing at home. I have lost count of how many pieces of electronic gear I have cleaned the crud out of in the bathtub. Set whatever you need to clean on a towel you don't care about so the tub does not get scratched up, squirt the cleaner liberally everywhere, let it sit for a while, then flush the crud out with a shower wand, and blow it dry. If your oven is big enough you can put the piece in there on low hear (150 degrees F or so) and bake it for a few hours. If you can't fit the piece in the oven a good hair dryer set on low or medium will do the trick, but it takes longer than the over to get things dried out and then you should need to be sure things are completely dry before you apply power. The only caveat is you should remove any parts that can't get wet before the wash cycle. Most well-made power transformers are varnished and should be OK. If you are not sure pull the transformer first.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Technotronic Dimensions
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2024 10:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ham-amplifiers] Smoker contamination removal


Gonna try and detox an ACOM 1500 amp previously owned by a smoker ham, anyone ever have to remove the niccotine film before maybe with chemicals?

Contact cleaner wont take it off, alcohol on a rag seems to dissolve it, so I may try that with small toothbrushes to get into the tight spots.

I read someone once hung a smoker contaminated ham rigg from a wire in their garage and put cardboard under it, and soaked it inside and out with WD40, let it penetrate overnight and said it yielded good results. Not sure about that tho.


--
Steve Hearns [ KA2PTE ]
Technotronic Dimensions, VT [USA]
WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM
E-Mail: Steve@...


 

I will verify that the product that is often available at The Dollar Tree Stores, called "Awesome" is extremely effective on aged yellow nicotine tar film and associated grime contaminants that can accumulate over the years. Probably the best Polar Solvent for removing nicotine I have ever found. I have tried many things over the years in my work restoring collectable vintage tube guitar amps. Some of the best amplifiers are the old beat up ones that have spent their lives in old Juke Joints and smoke filled night clubs.
Generous application of the Awesome product to soak followed by a heavy stream of spray to flush and float away the grime. I will then follow up with generous rinse of Anhydrous Isopropyl alcohol?
It is very effective, and has cut my time down by quite a bit. However it can react with aluminum if allowed to soak too long... i suspect that it may contain a heavy amount of sodium hydroxide maybe. It works very well against nicotine and is very inexpensive. Especially compared to professional solvents such as IPA.


 

I got the front cntrol panel all done, getting into the PS
area now...pretty bad.







In the PA compartment I see the bread slicers have some stuck in there, should be fun
getting that out. Hopefully I can just let it soak in the stuff sprayed on,
then maybe some compressed air can blow them clean, but for now
this area is next.


--
Steve Hearns [ KA2PTE ]
Technotronic Dimensions, VT [USA]
WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM
E-Mail: Steve@...


 

Getting the caps clean will be easy compared to cleaning the wiring.

On Saturday, November 23, 2024 at 06:27:27 PM EST, Technotronic Dimensions <steve@...> wrote:



I got the front cntrol panel all done, getting into the PS
area now...pretty bad.







In the PA compartment I see the bread slicers have some stuck in there,
should be fun
getting that out. Hopefully I can just let it soak in the stuff sprayed on,
then maybe some compressed air can blow them clean, but for now
this area is next.


--
Steve Hearns [ KA2PTE ]
Technotronic Dimensions, VT [USA]
WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM
E-Mail: Steve@...







 

Yes. I had experimented with some liquid wrench
on an acid brush and it seemed to work great on the wire bundles.
But the "Fan-Monia" solution seems to do almost the same result.

I will post some more photos when its cleaned up.....

The fans are loaded with it too.

I once had niccotine ignite on me when I cleaned the bandswitch
on a Kenwood 530 rigg. It was a smoker radio and the contact
that got clean allowed the normal 300V B+ to the plate of the driver tube.

With the increased voltage, there was a foil trace from that feed that
was very close to the ground plane foil, and niccotine was embedded in
between, and it ignited when I powered on the rigg.

When I cleaned it out, it had left a pretty good groove in the fiberglass board
for the few seconds it burned. The stuff is very conductive. Smokers must be too.

--
Steve Hearns [ KA2PTE ]
Technotronic Dimensions, VT [USA]
WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM
E-Mail: Steve@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "mike repinski via groups.io" <mikflathead@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2024 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Smoker contamination removal


Getting the caps clean will be easy compared to cleaning the wiring.
On Saturday, November 23, 2024 at 06:27:27 PM EST, Technotronic Dimensions <steve@...> wrote:


I got the front cntrol panel all done, getting into the PS
area now...pretty bad.







In the PA compartment I see the bread slicers have some stuck in there,
should be fun
getting that out. Hopefully I can just let it soak in the stuff sprayed on,
then maybe some compressed air can blow them clean, but for now
this area is next.


--
Steve Hearns [ KA2PTE ]
Technotronic Dimensions, VT [USA]
WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM
E-Mail: Steve@...


 

Those links you posted are inop. You might want to just insert those images into you post or attach them to your post.

Joe - W7RKN

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Technotronic Dimensions via groups.io
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Smoker contamination removal


I got the front cntrol panel all done, getting into the PS
area now...pretty bad.







In the PA compartment I see the bread slicers have some stuck in there,
should be fun
getting that out. Hopefully I can just let it soak in the stuff sprayed on,
then maybe some compressed air can blow them clean, but for now
this area is next.


 

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Its you Joe. They work for me
C


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe - W7RKN via groups.io <w7rkn.7@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2024 10:34 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Smoker contamination removal
?
Those links you posted are inop.? You might want to just insert those images into you post or attach them to your post.

Joe - W7RKN

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Technotronic Dimensions via
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Smoker contamination removal


I got the front cntrol panel all done, getting into the PS
area now...pretty bad.







In the PA compartment I see the bread slicers have some stuck in there,
should be fun
getting that out. Hopefully I can just let it soak in the stuff sprayed on,
then maybe some compressed air can blow them clean, but for now
this area is next.








 

Latest photo of the chassis as I am removing and cleaning each individual
assembly.

Just took the top bread slicer out and I have a seperate plastic container I will fill with the Fan-monia
and let it soak in there a while, then I pick it up and shake it around so the stuff bubbles and does further cleaning,
and repeat. Seems to loosen alot of not all the niccotine sludge.

I had to suppliment the Fantastick with some stuff Wallmart sells called Purple Power, seems to be a general purpose
degreaser but sold in a larger container.

Along the way I found a doorknob cap had broke or maybe been defective from the factory and will have to order a new one.

I know from past experience niccotine is EXTEMELY ignitable and with this amp delivering 1500W RF power with
I believe 2800VDC as the plate supply, the fact its everywhere left me no choice but to be as picky as possible
to get 95% or more of the amp clean.

The blower fan is still in there and its loaded with the stuff.

--
Steve Hearns [ KA2PTE ]
Technotronic Dimensions, VT [USA]
WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM
E-Mail: Steve@...


 

Just a caution here.? Be VERY careful about what you mix together.? It's very easy to poison yourself from a BAD reaction of the chemicals.? Just a heads up for others.? Personally I've always used Dawn dishwashing detergent in my ultrasonic cleaner.? It works just fine.?

Kim Herron W8ZV kim.herron@... 1-616-677-3706


On Saturday, December 14, 2024 at 11:34:14 AM EST, Technotronic Dimensions <steve@...> wrote:



Latest photo of the chassis as I am removing and cleaning each individual
assembly.

Just took the top bread slicer out and I have a seperate plastic container I
will fill with the Fan-monia
and let it soak in there a while, then I pick it up and shake it around so
the stuff bubbles and does further cleaning,
and repeat. Seems to loosen alot of not all the niccotine sludge.

I had to suppliment the Fantastick with some stuff Wallmart sells called
Purple Power, seems to be a general purpose
degreaser but sold in a larger container.

Along the way I found a doorknob cap had broke or maybe been defective from
the factory and will have to order a new one.

I know from past experience niccotine is EXTEMELY ignitable and with this
amp delivering 1500W RF power with
I believe 2800VDC as the plate supply, the fact its everywhere left me no
choice but to be as picky as possible
to get 95% or more of the amp clean.

The blower fan is still in there and its loaded with the stuff.

--
Steve Hearns [ KA2PTE ]
Technotronic Dimensions, VT [USA]
WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM
E-Mail: Steve@...






 

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This is an important caution below from Kim. I did mix cleaners together for a difficult cleaning. It hurt my lungs and put me in bed for a day. I did recover. I realized I was being poisoned before it permanently damaged me or killed me.

Michael

On 12/14/2024 11:59 AM, Kim Herron wrote:

Just a caution here.? Be VERY careful about what you mix together.? It's very easy to poison yourself from a BAD reaction of the chemicals.? Just a heads up for others.? Personally I've always used Dawn dishwashing detergent in my ultrasonic cleaner.? It works just fine.?

Kim Herron W8ZV kim.herron@... 1-616-677-3706


On Saturday, December 14, 2024 at 11:34:14 AM EST, Technotronic Dimensions <steve@...> wrote:



Latest photo of the chassis as I am removing and cleaning each individual
assembly.

Just took the top bread slicer out and I have a seperate plastic container I
will fill with the Fan-monia
and let it soak in there a while, then I pick it up and shake it around so
the stuff bubbles and does further cleaning,
and repeat. Seems to loosen alot of not all the niccotine sludge.

I had to suppliment the Fantastick with some stuff Wallmart sells called
Purple Power, seems to be a general purpose
degreaser but sold in a larger container.

Along the way I found a doorknob cap had broke or maybe been defective from
the factory and will have to order a new one.

I know from past experience niccotine is EXTEMELY ignitable and with this
amp delivering 1500W RF power with
I believe 2800VDC as the plate supply, the fact its everywhere left me no
choice but to be as picky as possible
to get 95% or more of the amp clean.

The blower fan is still in there and its loaded with the stuff.

--
Steve Hearns [ KA2PTE ]
Technotronic Dimensions, VT [USA]

E-Mail: Steve@...






 

That type of thing happens when you inadvertently mix an ammonia based cleaner with a chlorine based cleaner.
You get the same kind of gas that was used on? troops during WW 1.? Ain't good.? Even crap that's marketed to be used as a janitorial product can really screw you up.? I have a permanently damaged set of lungs, courtesy of USPS,
because the floor cleaner they use makes people sick and mixed at high concentrations, it's VERY bad.? Don't ask how I know.? You don't recover from what I have.

Kim Herron W8ZV kim.herron@... 1-616-677-3706


On Saturday, December 14, 2024 at 01:06:43 PM EST, Michael <ironcoder@...> wrote:


This is an important caution below from Kim. I did mix cleaners together for a difficult cleaning. It hurt my lungs and put me in bed for a day. I did recover. I realized I was being poisoned before it permanently damaged me or killed me.

Michael

On 12/14/2024 11:59 AM, Kim Herron wrote:
Just a caution here.? Be VERY careful about what you mix together.? It's very easy to poison yourself from a BAD reaction of the chemicals.? Just a heads up for others.? Personally I've always used Dawn dishwashing detergent in my ultrasonic cleaner.? It works just fine.?

Kim Herron W8ZV kim.herron@... 1-616-677-3706


On Saturday, December 14, 2024 at 11:34:14 AM EST, Technotronic Dimensions <steve@...> wrote:



Latest photo of the chassis as I am removing and cleaning each individual
assembly.

Just took the top bread slicer out and I have a seperate plastic container I
will fill with the Fan-monia
and let it soak in there a while, then I pick it up and shake it around so
the stuff bubbles and does further cleaning,
and repeat. Seems to loosen alot of not all the niccotine sludge.

I had to suppliment the Fantastick with some stuff Wallmart sells called
Purple Power, seems to be a general purpose
degreaser but sold in a larger container.

Along the way I found a doorknob cap had broke or maybe been defective from
the factory and will have to order a new one.

I know from past experience niccotine is EXTEMELY ignitable and with this
amp delivering 1500W RF power with
I believe 2800VDC as the plate supply, the fact its everywhere left me no
choice but to be as picky as possible
to get 95% or more of the amp clean.

The blower fan is still in there and its loaded with the stuff.

--
Steve Hearns [ KA2PTE ]
Technotronic Dimensions, VT [USA]

E-Mail: Steve@...






 

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In a recent Shure fatboy rebuild from 1941 and 1943 the re-plating of

the zinc frames were called for, but it was up to me first to get rid of years

of nicotine build-up from chain-smoking radio broadcast announcers,

close-talking and leaving their smelly shpit in and on the mic elements.

?

(Cigar smokers invariably spit tiny chunks into the grills.)

?

The mics were both BC types ?with three or four layers of cloth and

fine copper metal screen in between, so they ?did a great job of? collecting.

?

All the inside components were trashed. The mic elements and magnets,

floating on the springs, were utterly gone. The springs, not stainless or phosphor

bronze, crumbled into a primordial ooze that turned into a miniature

coal mine of solidified tar.

?

After getting all the screws and parts out, the mic shells were boiled

in a mixture of kerosene and Methyl Ethyl Ketone using a boiling jacket

and a small tub from a lab bench. The last material to let go was

the contact cement globs ?adhering the inside fabric shells and

screens to the castings.

?

The solvents were replaced three times during the 48 hour process, and

each time save the last, smelled like an elevator with cigar smokers

stuck inside it. I felt like coughing myself. You know BC mics had

cough buttons, yes?? No wonder. I could almost feel the congestion

building up. I started out in BC engineering as a studio tech and

you know who was customarily assigned mic chores, which were

especially odious when having to deal with 77’s with their HV supplies

melting down from goo in the ribbons.

?

Hal Mandel

W4HBM


 

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"Scrubbing Bubbles" will remove nicotine from metal and paint.

Don W4DNR?

On 2024-12-14 12:18 pm, Kim Herron wrote:

That type of thing happens when you inadvertently mix an ammonia based cleaner with a chlorine based cleaner.
You? get the same kind of gas that was used on? troops during WW 1.? Ain't good.? Even crap that's marketed to be used as a janitorial product can really screw you up.? I have a permanently damaged set of lungs, courtesy of USPS,
because the floor cleaner they use makes people sick and mixed at high concentrations, it's VERY bad.? Don't ask how I know.? You don't recover from what I have.
?
Kim Herron W8ZV kim.herron@... 1-616-677-3706
?
?
On Saturday, December 14, 2024 at 01:06:43 PM EST, Michael <ironcoder@...> wrote:
?
?

This is an important caution below from Kim. I did mix cleaners together for a difficult cleaning. It hurt my lungs and put me in bed for a day. I did recover. I realized I was being poisoned before it permanently damaged me or killed me.

Michael

On 12/14/2024 11:59 AM, Kim Herron wrote:
Just a caution here.? Be VERY careful about what you mix together.? It's very easy to poison yourself from a BAD reaction of the chemicals.? Just a heads up for others.? Personally I've always used Dawn dishwashing detergent in my ultrasonic cleaner.? It works just fine.?
?
Kim Herron W8ZV kim.herron@... 1-616-677-3706
?
?
On Saturday, December 14, 2024 at 11:34:14 AM EST, Technotronic Dimensions <steve@...> wrote:
?
?
?
Latest photo of the chassis as I am removing and cleaning each individual
assembly.
?
Just took the top bread slicer out and I have a seperate plastic container I
will fill with the Fan-monia
and let it soak in there a while, then I pick it up and shake it around so
the stuff bubbles and does further cleaning,
and repeat. Seems to loosen alot of not all the niccotine sludge.
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I had to suppliment the Fantastick with some stuff Wallmart sells called
Purple Power, seems to be a general purpose
degreaser but sold in a larger container.
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Along the way I found a doorknob cap had broke or maybe been defective from
the factory and will have to order a new one.
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I know from past experience niccotine is EXTEMELY ignitable and with this
amp delivering 1500W RF power with
I believe 2800VDC as the plate supply, the fact its everywhere left me no
choice but to be as picky as possible
to get 95% or more of the amp clean.
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The blower fan is still in there and its loaded with the stuff.
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Steve Hearns [ KA2PTE ]
Technotronic Dimensions, VT [USA]
E-Mail: Steve@...
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