----- Original Message -----

From: FRANCIS CARCIA

To: ham_amplifiers@...

Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 6:12 PM

Subject: Re: [ham_amplifiers] Re: AL80-A

Jim,

Us nuts love company. Happy New Year. BTW my Dad saw saw this when we felt sorry for Japan after WW2 and Ike sent jobs there.

We will wake up when the greedy yuppies are the last to tax. Don't give a crap about the next guy he is just stupid and lazy.........

pentalab <jim.thomson@telus.com> wrote:

--- In ham_amplifiers@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
>
> Francis, we aren't gonna agree here. I'm retired so I don't have
to sweat the issue of 8 bucks/hour. I'm retired and modestly
comfortable. However, I made it on my on without someone looking
over my shoulder. My feeling has always been that Unions are for
people who can't cut it on their own. I never needed someone else
to fight my battles for me. GL, 73

### Oh give us all a break ! With homes around here skyrocketing
in price [>400 K $ ] the joke is.. most peoples homes are making
more money per year than the owners. You can't survive on $8.00.
Heck u can't survive on double that these days. Now u need both
spouses working a 40 hr week to gets by... and both making huge
bux. Ever worked for a non union jerk run outfit ? Those co's
appear to charge the same for the end product... screw all their
employeee's with crummy wages and no benefits.... then pocket the
difference.

>
> ---- FRANCIS CARCIA wrote:
> > Maybe you will get a chance to work for the that great company
in the future. I hear $8 an hour buys a lot of amplifiers. Bet you
would love to join a union if you were making that big $8. I hear
cutting grass is a good business to get into. How about flipping
burgers?
> > I drive buy this little machine shop that went out of business
a while ago. We use to use them for rush jobs and they were cheap.
Now we have to go far away and wait weeks
> > explain how smart that was.

### It wasn't.. it was a dumb move on their part.. that benefits
nobody.

> >
> > "Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH)" wrote:
> > Exactly correct. Unions have destroyed more US
businesses than we can count by demanding more wages and benefits
than the employer could stand, all with no regard for anyone but
themselves. That's why I shop at Wal-Mart and admire them for
standing up to Union pressure.

### That's almost laughable. By shopping at Walmart [btw IS the
world's biggest jerk run non union outfit on the planet bar none],
you are just screwing urself in the long run. My daughter worked
there for a few months.... she was glad to get the hell out.

> >
> > If the Wal-Mart business model had been discovered sooner and
applied by more American businesses, there would be a lot more of
them still in operation. The basic strategy followed by the major
manufacturing companies was "Give the unions whatever they want no
matter how unreasonable it may be and keep the lines running. We
will just pass the additional cost along to the buyers."
> >
> > One day some one came along who could make and sell it for less
money.

### Yes... and the way they do it.. is to buy bulk.. off shore...
then if that isn't bad enough... then screw their employees over...
and pocket the difference. "out sourcing" is nothing more
than "contracting out". Just saw a documentary whereby the IRS was
sending 500,000 tax returns to India.. to be processed. It worked
so good that the following year they electronically shipped millions
of em over. Then it went on to say that 22 state gov'ts now ship
loads of stuff to India to be proccessed.. all sorts of standard
gov't forms. They said within 5 yrs ALL US tax returns will be
processed overseas.

## I predicted this years ago... and was dead on. This high speed
electronic transfer of data... for fed/state paper work...
including everything from tax returns to mortgages...to motor
vehicle registration etc, etc.... amounts to the mother of one big
world wide .. 'electronic sweat shop'... with no end in site.

## The latest is getting MRI's.. and CT's done in NA... then
shipped overseas... where some underpaid Dr. will analyze it for
u....dirt cheap.. then forward his finding's back.

## all as Walmart has done is jumped the gun. Now that nobody else
can compete... they just follow suit... and buy off shore as well.

### CNN reported last year that the fed trade and commerce wasn't
even keeping records of job losses to overseas. Now they are
talking about making it a mandatory requirement. And these same
jerk run outfits and co's want tax breaks, tax incentives, special
treatment etc.

## saw another CBC documentary where they took hidden camera's into
guadamala and costa rica... where expensive ladies clothes were
made.... then shipped to 5th ave stores in NYC. The reporters had
done some dumpster diving just outside the factory's... and found
the paper work... depicting the exact break down cost to make each
ladies blouse..... worked out to 2 cents a minute for labour... and
they gave em 11 minutes to make each one ! The shipping cost were
far more than the labour cost. And these items sold for as much
as $180.00 US funds at Sach's on 5th ave.

## The living conditions of these worker's was 3 steps below
deplorable. Unless you are willing to work for the same $1.20 per
hour.... and the gov't allows co's to "outsource" overseas.... the
union issue isn't even relevent here. Don't want to work for slave
labour rates?? Fine.. we'll just..."out source" ur manufacturing
job then.

### The same documentry depicted typ wage in China at 17 cents...
per day ! Hundreds of workers were brought in from the country
side... and had been working for several months.. and still hadn't
been paid. With a Communist gov't running the show... and a load of
serious fire power to back em up... stuff like unions and human
rights just went out the window. Of course the smart guys in Hong
Kong showed em exactly how to do it too..since they are all in the
same bed together. I'm half expecting Hsu to come and blast us
all. Perhaps he can tell us who he voted for in the last election
LOL.

### I'll go out on a limb and say.... in 10 years... u are
finished...toast. The middle class will be completely gone.... and
there won't be enough of the upper class to pay for all this mess.

## someday... somebody will have to tune in.. and just say... if it
ain't made here... u can't sell it here. Notice NO TV's have been
made in Japan since 1987. Once India seems to expensive... China
will be the next place to "do business". Once China is deemed too
expensive... the workload will just pass on to the next 3rd world
country... and the cycle keeps on going.

### Wanna work for Bill Gates ?? He pays a whopping $5 grand per
year....... in India. Of course you have to be fully trained.. and
have all the appropriate University degree's. If you don't like it
after a while.... you can always just cross the street... and
process Income tax returns..for the IRS. And people wonder why the
crime and divorce rates keep going up.

Later... and told ya so.

Jim VE7RF

--- In ham_amplifiers@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
>
> Francis, we aren't gonna agree here. I'm retired so I don't have
to sweat the issue of 8 bucks/hour. I'm retired and modestly
comfortable. However, I made it on my on without someone looking
over my shoulder. My feeling has always been that Unions are for
people who can't cut it on their own. I never needed someone else
to fight my battles for me. GL, 73

### Oh give us all a break ! With homes around here skyrocketing
in price [>400 K $ ] the joke is.. most peoples homes are making
more money per year than the owners. You can't survive on $8.00.
Heck u can't survive on double that these days. Now u need both
spouses working a 40 hr week to gets by... and both making huge
bux. Ever worked for a non union jerk run outfit ? Those co's
appear to charge the same for the end product... screw all their
employeee's with crummy wages and no benefits.... then pocket the
difference.

>
> ---- FRANCIS CARCIA wrote:
> > Maybe you will get a chance to work for the that great company
in the future. I hear $8 an hour buys a lot of amplifiers. Bet you
would love to join a union if you were making that big $8. I hear
cutting grass is a good business to get into. How about flipping
burgers?
> > I drive buy this little machine shop that went out of business
a while ago. We use to use them for rush jobs and they were cheap.
Now we have to go far away and wait weeks
> > explain how smart that was.

### It wasn't.. it was a dumb move on their part.. that benefits
nobody.

> >
> > "Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH)" wrote:
> > Exactly correct. Unions have destroyed more US
businesses than we can count by demanding more wages and benefits
than the employer could stand, all with no regard for anyone but
themselves. That's why I shop at Wal-Mart and admire them for
standing up to Union pressure.

### That's almost laughable. By shopping at Walmart [btw IS the
world's biggest jerk run non union outfit on the planet bar none],
you are just screwing urself in the long run. My daughter worked
there for a few months.... she was glad to get the hell out.

> >
> > If the Wal-Mart business model had been discovered sooner and
applied by more American businesses, there would be a lot more of
them still in operation. The basic strategy followed by the major
manufacturing companies was "Give the unions whatever they want no
matter how unreasonable it may be and keep the lines running. We
will just pass the additional cost along to the buyers."
> >
> > One day some one came along who could make and sell it for less
money.

### Yes... and the way they do it.. is to buy bulk.. off shore...
then if that isn't bad enough... then screw their employees over...
and pocket the difference. "out sourcing" is nothing more
than "contracting out". Just saw a documentary whereby the IRS was
sending 500,000 tax returns to India.. to be processed. It worked
so good that the following year they electronically shipped millions
of em over. Then it went on to say that 22 state gov'ts now ship
loads of stuff to India to be proccessed.. all sorts of standard
gov't forms. They said within 5 yrs ALL US tax returns will be
processed overseas.

## I predicted this years ago... and was dead on. This high speed
electronic transfer of data... for fed/state paper work...
including everything from tax returns to mortgages...to motor
vehicle registration etc, etc.... amounts to the mother of one big
world wide .. 'electronic sweat shop'... with no end in site.

## The latest is getting MRI's.. and CT's done in NA... then
shipped overseas... where some underpaid Dr. will analyze it for
u....dirt cheap.. then forward his finding's back.

## all as Walmart has done is jumped the gun. Now that nobody else
can compete... they just follow suit... and buy off shore as well.

### CNN reported last year that the fed trade and commerce wasn't
even keeping records of job losses to overseas. Now they are
talking about making it a mandatory requirement. And these same
jerk run outfits and co's want tax breaks, tax incentives, special
treatment etc.

## saw another CBC documentary where they took hidden camera's into
guadamala and costa rica... where expensive ladies clothes were
made.... then shipped to 5th ave stores in NYC. The reporters had
done some dumpster diving just outside the factory's... and found
the paper work... depicting the exact break down cost to make each
ladies blouse..... worked out to 2 cents a minute for labour... and
they gave em 11 minutes to make each one ! The shipping cost were
far more than the labour cost. And these items sold for as much
as $180.00 US funds at Sach's on 5th ave.

## The living conditions of these worker's was 3 steps below
deplorable. Unless you are willing to work for the same $1.20 per
hour.... and the gov't allows co's to "outsource" overseas.... the
union issue isn't even relevent here. Don't want to work for slave
labour rates?? Fine.. we'll just..."out source" ur manufacturing
job then.

### The same documentry depicted typ wage in China at 17 cents...
per day ! Hundreds of workers were brought in from the country
side... and had been working for several months.. and still hadn't
been paid. With a Communist gov't running the show... and a load of
serious fire power to back em up... stuff like unions and human
rights just went out the window. Of course the smart guys in Hong
Kong showed em exactly how to do it too..since they are all in the
same bed together. I'm half expecting Hsu to come and blast us
all. Perhaps he can tell us who he voted for in the last election
LOL.

### I'll go out on a limb and say.... in 10 years... u are
finished...toast. The middle class will be completely gone.... and
there won't be enough of the upper class to pay for all this mess.

## someday... somebody will have to tune in.. and just say... if it
ain't made here... u can't sell it here. Notice NO TV's have been
made in Japan since 1987. Once India seems to expensive... China
will be the next place to "do business". Once China is deemed too
expensive... the workload will just pass on to the next 3rd world
country... and the cycle keeps on going.

### Wanna work for Bill Gates ?? He pays a whopping $5 grand per
year....... in India. Of course you have to be fully trained.. and
have all the appropriate University degree's. If you don't like it
after a while.... you can always just cross the street... and
process Income tax returns..for the IRS. And people wonder why the
crime and divorce rates keep going up.

Later... and told ya so.

Jim VE7RF

Hi Jim
Yeah let me know what model capacitors you are using, thanks.
Thanks to all the others who replied the links were great.
The K15U-1 types appear to be genuine RF types suitable for RF
current use. Besides they a lot cheaper than HT57's so would be well
worth trying.
Greg
--- In ham_amplifiers@... <mailto:ham_amplifiers%40yahoogroups.com>, Jan Erik Holm <sm2ekm@...> wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> In my 8171 amp I use two Russian 470 pF caps in parallel for plate
> blocking, dont remember if its the KI5 type but I could check ofcourse.
>
> I know that I have seen some Russian capacitor data somewhere on
> the internet but cant remember where.
>
> Happy New Year / Jim SM2EKM
> -----------------------------------------
> badgerscreek wrote:
> >
> >
> > Anyone offer opinions on the Russian Doorknobs used in plate blocking
> > applications?
> >
> > I am interested in trying the KI5 types which are KVAR rated at 10 to
> > 15 kv. There seem to be a bargain but i cant find RF current ratings
> > for them.
> >
> > Greg
> >
>

Nobody likes Wal-Mart except the people who like the money they save by shopping?there.?

?

Just to give you one small example I bought a bag of American made pet food there the other day.? Later I saw the same item in the local grocery store for 38% more.

?

David

KC2JD

?

-----Original Message-----
From: ham_amplifiers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ham_amplifiers@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of pentalab
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 6:41 AM
To: ham_amplifiers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ham_amplifiers] Re: AL80-A

--- In ham_amplifiers@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
>
> Francis, we aren't gonna agree here. I'm retired so I don't have
to sweat the issue of 8 bucks/hour. I'm retired and modestly
comfortable. However, I made it on my on without someone looking
over my shoulder. My feeling has always been that Unions are for
people who can't cut it on their own. I never needed someone else
to fight my battles for me. GL, 73

### Oh give us all a break ! With homes around here skyrocketing
in price [>400 K $ ] the joke is.. most peoples homes are making
more money per year than the owners. You can't survive on $8.00.
Heck u can't survive on double that these days. Now u need both
spouses working a 40 hr week to gets by... and both making huge
bux. Ever worked for a non union jerk run outfit ? Those co's
appear to charge the same for the end product... screw all their
employeee's with crummy wages and no benefits.... then pocket the
difference.

>
> ---- FRANCIS CARCIA wrote:
> > Maybe you will get a chance to work for the that great company
in the future. I hear $8 an hour buys a lot of amplifiers. Bet you
would love to join a union if you were making that big $8. I hear
cutting grass is a good business to get into. How about flipping
burgers?
> > I drive buy this little machine shop that went out of business
a while ago. We use to use them for rush jobs and they were cheap.
Now we have to go far away and wait weeks
> > explain how smart that was.

### It wasn't.. it was a dumb move on their part.. that benefits
nobody.

> >
> > "Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH)" wrote:
> > Exactly correct. Unions have destroyed more US
businesses than we can count by demanding more wages and benefits
than the employer could stand, all with no regard for anyone but
themselves. That's why I shop at Wal-Mart and admire them for
standing up to Union pressure.

### That's almost laughable. By shopping at Walmart [btw IS the
world's biggest jerk run non union outfit on the planet bar none],
you are just screwing urself in the long run. My daughter worked
there for a few months.... she was glad to get the hell out.

> >
> > If the Wal-Mart business model had been discovered sooner and
applied by more American businesses, there would be a lot more of
them still in operation. The basic strategy followed by the major
manufacturing companies was "Give the unions whatever they want no
matter how unreasonable it may be and keep the lines running. We
will just pass the additional cost along to the buyers."
> >
> > One day some one came along who could make and sell it for less
money.

### Yes... and the way they do it.. is to buy bulk.. off shore...
then if that isn't bad enough... then screw their employees over...
and pocket the difference. "out sourcing" is nothing more
than "contracting out". Just saw a documentary whereby the IRS was
sending 500,000 tax returns to India.. to be processed. It worked
so good that the following year they electronically shipped millions
of em over. Then it went on to say that 22 state gov'ts now ship
loads of stuff to India to be proccessed.. all sorts of standard
gov't forms. They said within 5 yrs ALL US tax returns will be
processed overseas.

## I predicted this years ago... and was dead on. This high speed
electronic transfer of data... for fed/state paper work...
including everything from tax returns to mortgages...to motor
vehicle registration etc, etc.... amounts to the mother of one big
world wide .. 'electronic sweat shop'... with no end in site.

## The latest is getting MRI's.. and CT's done in NA... then
shipped overseas... where some underpaid Dr. will analyze it for
u....dirt cheap.. then forward his finding's back.

## all as Walmart has done is jumped the gun. Now that nobody else
can compete... they just follow suit... and buy off shore as well.

### CNN reported last year that the fed trade and commerce wasn't
even keeping records of job losses to overseas. Now they are
talking about making it a mandatory requirement. And these same
jerk run outfits and co's want tax breaks, tax incentives, special
treatment etc.

## saw another CBC documentary where they took hidden camera's into
guadamala and costa rica... where expensive ladies clothes were
made.... then shipped to 5th ave stores in NYC. The reporters had
done some dumpster diving just outside the factory's... and found
the paper work... depicting the exact break down cost to make each
ladies blouse..... worked out to 2 cents a minute for labour... and
they gave em 11 minutes to make each one ! The shipping cost were
far more than the labour cost. And these items sold for as much
as $180.00 US funds at Sach's on 5th ave.

## The living conditions of these worker's was 3 steps below
deplorable. Unless you are willing to work for the same $1.20 per
hour.... and the gov't allows co's to "outsource" overseas.... the
union issue isn't even relevent here. Don't want to work for slave
labour rates?? Fine.. we'll just..."out source" ur manufacturing
job then.

### The same documentry depicted typ wage in China at 17 cents...
per day ! Hundreds of workers were brought in from the country
side... and had been working for several months.. and still hadn't
been paid. With a Communist gov't running the show... and a load of
serious fire power to back em up... stuff like unions and human
rights just went out the window. Of course the smart guys in Hong
Kong showed em exactly how to do it too..since they are all in the
same bed together. I'm half expecting Hsu to come and blast us
all. Perhaps he can tell us who he voted for in the last election
LOL.

### I'll go out on a limb and say.... in 10 years... u are
finished...toast. The middle class will be completely gone.... and
there won't be enough of the upper class to pay for all this mess.

## someday... somebody will have to tune in.. and just say... if it
ain't made here... u can't sell it here. Notice NO TV's have been
made in Japan since 1987. Once India seems to expensive... China
will be the next place to "do business". Once China is deemed too
expensive... the workload will just pass on to the next 3rd world
country... and the cycle keeps on going.

### Wanna work for Bill Gates ?? He pays a whopping $5 grand per
year....... in India. Of course you have to be fully trained.. and
have all the appropriate University degree's. If you don't like it
after a while.... you can always just cross the street... and
process Income tax returns..for the IRS. And people wonder why the
crime and divorce rates keep going up.

Later... and told ya so.

Jim VE7RF

I beg to differ; half my family works at Wal-Mart. It beats flipping
hamburgers by quite a bit. Of course they realize that having "a
job" in itself doesn't guarantee that you will have a nice house,
car and pocketful of $$ for the weekend.

The fact is that many entry-level jobs simply are not worth the
current minimum wage, if that. The middle class cannot afford to
continue to support an ever-growing number of people who feel that
merely managing to stumble though the day at work should make them a
comfortable living.

AW
--- In ham_amplifiers@yahoogroups.com, "David C. Hallam"
> wrote:
>
> Nobody likes Wal-Mart except the people who like the money they
save by
> shopping there.


>
> David
> KC2JD
>

-----Original Message-----
From: ham_amplifiers@... [mailto:ham_amplifiers@...]On Behalf Of pentalab
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 6:41 AM
To: ham_amplifiers@...
Subject: [ham_amplifiers] Re: AL80-A

--- In ham_amplifiers@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
>
> Francis, we aren't gonna agree here. I'm retired so I don't have
to sweat the issue of 8 bucks/hour. I'm retired and modestly
comfortable. However, I made it on my on without someone looking
over my shoulder. My feeling has always been that Unions are for
people who can't cut it on their own. I never needed someone else
to fight my battles for me. GL, 73

### Oh give us all a break ! With homes around here skyrocketing
in price [>400 K $ ] the joke is.. most peoples homes are making
more money per year than the owners. You can't survive on $8.00.
Heck u can't survive on double that these days. Now u need both
spouses working a 40 hr week to gets by... and both making huge
bux. Ever worked for a non union jerk run outfit ? Those co's
appear to charge the same for the end product... screw all their
employeee's with crummy wages and no benefits.... then pocket the
difference.

>
> ---- FRANCIS CARCIA wrote:
> > Maybe you will get a chance to work for the that great company
in the future. I hear $8 an hour buys a lot of amplifiers. Bet you
would love to join a union if you were making that big $8. I hear
cutting grass is a good business to get into. How about flipping
burgers?
> > I drive buy this little machine shop that went out of business
a while ago. We use to use them for rush jobs and they were cheap.
Now we have to go far away and wait weeks
> > explain how smart that was.

### It wasn't.. it was a dumb move on their part.. that benefits
nobody.

> >
> > "Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH)" <w5uc@...> wrote:
> > Exactly correct. Unions have destroyed more US
businesses than we can count by demanding more wages and benefits
than the employer could stand, all with no regard for anyone but
themselves. That's why I shop at Wal-Mart and admire them for
standing up to Union pressure.

### That's almost laughable. By shopping at Walmart [btw IS the
world's biggest jerk run non union outfit on the planet bar none],
you are just screwing urself in the long run. My daughter worked
there for a few months.... she was glad to get the hell out.

> >
> > If the Wal-Mart business model had been discovered sooner and
applied by more American businesses, there would be a lot more of
them still in operation. The basic strategy followed by the major
manufacturing companies was "Give the unions whatever they want no
matter how unreasonable it may be and keep the lines running. We
will just pass the additional cost along to the buyers."
> >
> > One day some one came along who could make and sell it for less
money.

### Yes... and the way they do it.. is to buy bulk.. off shore...
then if that isn't bad enough... then screw their employees over...
and pocket the difference. "out sourcing" is nothing more
than "contracting out". Just saw a documentary whereby the IRS was
sending 500,000 tax returns to India.. to be processed. It worked
so good that the following year they electronically shipped millions
of em over. Then it went on to say that 22 state gov'ts now ship
loads of stuff to India to be proccessed.. all sorts of standard
gov't forms. They said within 5 yrs ALL US tax returns will be
processed overseas.

## I predicted this years ago... and was dead on. This high speed
electronic transfer of data... for fed/state paper work...
including everything from tax returns to mortgages...to motor
vehicle registration etc, etc.... amounts to the mother of one big
world wide .. 'electronic sweat shop'... with no end in site.

## The latest is getting MRI's.. and CT's done in NA... then
shipped overseas... where some underpaid Dr. will analyze it for
u....dirt cheap.. then forward his finding's back.

## all as Walmart has done is jumped the gun. Now that nobody else
can compete... they just follow suit... and buy off shore as well.

### CNN reported last year that the fed trade and commerce wasn't
even keeping records of job losses to overseas. Now they are
talking about making it a mandatory requirement. And these same
jerk run outfits and co's want tax breaks, tax incentives, special
treatment etc.

## saw another CBC documentary where they took hidden camera's into
guadamala and costa rica... where expensive ladies clothes were
made.... then shipped to 5th ave stores in NYC. The reporters had
done some dumpster diving just outside the factory's... and found
the paper work... depicting the exact break down cost to make each
ladies blouse..... worked out to 2 cents a minute for labour... and
they gave em 11 minutes to make each one ! The shipping cost were
far more than the labour cost. And these items sold for as much
as $180.00 US funds at Sach's on 5th ave.

## The living conditions of these worker's was 3 steps below
deplorable. Unless you are willing to work for the same $1.20 per
hour.... and the gov't allows co's to "outsource" overseas.... the
union issue isn't even relevent here. Don't want to work for slave
labour rates?? Fine.. we'll just..."out source" ur manufacturing
job then.

### The same documentry depicted typ wage in China at 17 cents...
per day ! Hundreds of workers were brought in from the country
side... and had been working for several months.. and still hadn't
been paid. With a Communist gov't running the show... and a load of
serious fire power to back em up... stuff like unions and human
rights just went out the window. Of course the smart guys in Hong
Kong showed em exactly how to do it too..since they are all in the
same bed together. I'm half expecting Hsu to come and blast us
all. Perhaps he can tell us who he voted for in the last election
LOL.

### I'll go out on a limb and say.... in 10 years... u are
finished...toast. The middle class will be completely gone.... and
there won't be enough of the upper class to pay for all this mess.

## someday... somebody will have to tune in.. and just say... if it
ain't made here... u can't sell it here. Notice NO TV's have been
made in Japan since 1987. Once India seems to expensive... China
will be the next place to "do business". Once China is deemed too
expensive... the workload will just pass on to the next 3rd world
country... and the cycle keeps on going.

### Wanna work for Bill Gates ?? He pays a whopping $5 grand per
year....... in India. Of course you have to be fully trained.. and
have all the appropriate University degree's. If you don't like it
after a while.... you can always just cross the street... and
process Income tax returns..for the IRS. And people wonder why the
crime and divorce rates keep going up.

Later... and told ya so.

Jim VE7RF

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Anyone offer opinions on the Russian Doorknobs used in plate blocking
applications?
I am interested in trying the KI5 types which are KVAR rated at 10 to
15 kv. There seem to be a bargain but i cant find RF current ratings
for them.
Greg

Maybe you will get a chance to work for the that great company in the future. I hear $8 an hour buys a lot of amplifiers. Bet you would love to join a union if you were making that big $8. I hear cutting grass is a good business to get into. How about flipping burgers?
I drive buy this little machine shop that went out of business a while ago. We use to use them for rush jobs and they were cheap. Now we have to go far away and wait weeks
explain how smart that was.

"Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH)" <w5uc@...> wrote:
Exactly correct. Unions have destroyed more US businesses than we can count by demanding more wages and benefits than the employer could stand, all with no regard for anyone but themselves. That's why I shop at Wal-Mart and admire them for standing up to Union pressure. I wonder if they want to go into the Ham amplifier business?

73,
Mike, W5UC

At 10:39 AM 12/29/2006, you wrote:

If the Wal-Mart business model had been discovered sooner and applied by more American businesses, there would be a lot more of them still in operation. The basic strategy followed by the major manufacturing companies was "Give the unions whatever they want no matter how unreasonable it may be and keep the lines running. We will just pass the additional cost along to the buyers."

One day some one came along who could make and sell it for less money.

David
KC2JD


-----Original Message-----

From: ham_amplifiers@... [ mailto:ham_amplifiers@...]On Behalf Of Harold Mandel

Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 11:04 AM

To: ham_amplifiers@...

Subject: RE: [ham_amplifiers] Re: AL80-A


All you need to do is study the management philosophy and practices of WalMart.


WalMart dictates the selling price to their suppliers, and when they say to WalMart that they cannot


supply a product at what WalMart wants to pay, WalMart directs them to an overseas supplier of labor


or parts, or parts and labor. If the supplier wishes to stay in business they follow orders.


There are no television manufacturers left in America.


There were never, not one, ever, facsimile machine manufacturers in America.


American business has chosen to divert monies to volumetric production schemes to lower consumer prices

and to increase selling stock, and to increase cellular coverage for more immediate return on investment than


in research and development. The Japanese still devote a large portion of their manufacturing revenue into


R&D. That is why they have surpassed the United States.


Our cellular telephone providers would rather sink money into radio systems increasing bandwidth and coverage volume than they would on hardening the system with backup generators, towers that are not at the 85% windload factor and battery plants that serve anything more than noise filters, as it would take a 100% increase in capacity to afford any sort of uninterruptible backup.


Find out who goes to medical schools these days.


Is it our sons and daughters who have studied hard and achieved academic excellence in their


baccalaureate endeavors?


Or is it mostly off-shore students whose parents can afford to fund a chair?


Mike, you are entirely correct. RF amplifiers are too expensive to build here. Look at the latest


edition that was touted on the reflector. Kilobucks. Even the offshore amplifier companies are


outrageous, like Emtron. The Ameritron might be our last chance. Alpha sure won?t be the last bastion


because their targeted market is so narrow. It?s going to be Joe Ham that keeps Ameritron in the running,


and Ameritron will need to contend with the competition FROM China for the last remaining component resources as the supply dwindles.


Hal Mandel


W4HBM


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From: ham_amplifiers@... [ mailto:ham_amplifiers@...] On Behalf Of Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH)

Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 10:14 AM

To: ham_amplifiers@...

Subject: Re: [ham_amplifiers] Re: AL80-A


At 08:42 AM 12/29/2006, you wrote:


After WW-

II, Dr. Deming was invited to Japan to give lectures on how to go

about making high quality things that people will want to buy.



cheers, Jim


Isn't that amazing? And now American automobile mfrs wonder why the mind set in this country (including me) is to buy Japanese cars. Now GM is struggling to regain it's reputation, and the labor unions are still wanting to price themselves out of a job and GM out of the market.


I wonder what percentage of ham amplifier products are made in the US? If they are being made off-shore, how much labor would it cost to build a quality product. Did you ever wonder what happened to Hallicrafters & Hammarlund? If someone knows what caused the demise of these two I would like to hear the story. I still miss my HQ-129X. (No I didn't sell it. It went under in 6 feet of salt water in Hurricane Carla in 1961)


73,

Mike, W5UC






"age & treachery will overcome youth & skill"



"age & treachery will overcome youth & skill"