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ham_amplifiers@yahoogroups.com,
wrote:
>
> Francis, we aren't gonna agree here.
I'm retired so I don't have
to sweat the issue of 8 bucks/hour. I'm
retired and modestly
comfortable. However, I made it on my on without
someone looking
over my shoulder. My feeling has always been that Unions
are for
people who can't cut it on their own. I never needed someone
else
to fight my battles for me. GL, 73
### Oh give us all a
break ! With homes around here skyrocketing
in price [>400 K $ ] the
joke is.. most peoples homes are making
more money per year than the
owners. You can't survive on $8.00.
Heck u can't survive on double that
these days. Now u need both
spouses working a 40 hr week to gets by...
and both making huge
bux. Ever worked for a non union jerk run outfit ?
Those co's
appear to charge the same for the end product... screw all
their
employeee's with crummy wages and no benefits.... then pocket the
difference.
>
> ---- FRANCIS CARCIA
wrote:
> > Maybe you will get a chance to work for the that great
company
in the future. I hear $8 an hour buys a lot of amplifiers. Bet
you
would love to join a union if you were making that big $8. I hear
cutting grass is a good business to get into. How about flipping
burgers?
> > I drive buy this little machine shop that went out
of business
a while ago. We use to use them for rush jobs and they were
cheap.
Now we have to go far away and wait weeks
> > explain
how smart that was.
### It wasn't.. it was a dumb move on their
part.. that benefits
nobody.
> >
> > "Mike(W5UC)
& Kathy(K5MWH)
" wrote:
> > Exactly
correct. Unions have destroyed more US
businesses than we can count by
demanding more wages and benefits
than the employer could stand, all
with no regard for anyone but
themselves. That's why I shop at Wal-Mart
and admire them for
standing up to Union pressure.
### That's
almost laughable. By shopping at Walmart [btw IS the
world's biggest
jerk run non union outfit on the planet bar none],
you are just screwing
urself in the long run. My daughter worked
there for a few months....
she was glad to get the hell out.
> >
> > If the
Wal-Mart business model had been discovered sooner and
applied by more
American businesses, there would be a lot more of
them still in
operation. The basic strategy followed by the major
manufacturing
companies was "Give the unions whatever they want no
matter how
unreasonable it may be and keep the lines running. We
will just pass the
additional cost along to the buyers."
> >
> > One day
some one came along who could make and sell it for less
money.
### Yes... and the way they do it.. is to buy bulk.. off
shore...
then if that isn't bad enough... then screw their employees
over...
and pocket the difference. "out sourcing" is nothing more
than "contracting out". Just saw a documentary whereby the IRS was
sending 500,000 tax returns to India.. to be processed. It worked
so
good that the following year they electronically shipped millions
of em
over. Then it went on to say that 22 state gov'ts now ship
loads of
stuff to India to be proccessed.. all sorts of standard
gov't forms.
They said within 5 yrs ALL US tax returns will be
processed overseas.
## I predicted this years ago... and was dead on. This high speed
electronic transfer of data... for fed/state paper work...
including
everything from tax returns to mortgages...
to motor
vehicle
registration etc, etc.... amounts to the mother of one big
world wide ..
'electronic sweat shop'... with no end in site.
## The latest is
getting MRI's.. and CT's done in NA... then
shipped overseas... where
some underpaid Dr. will analyze it for
u....dirt cheap.. then forward
his finding's back.
## all as Walmart has done is jumped the gun.
Now that nobody else
can compete... they just follow suit... and buy off
shore as well.
### CNN reported last year that the fed trade and
commerce wasn't
even keeping records of job losses to overseas. Now they
are
talking about making it a mandatory requirement. And these same
jerk run outfits and co's want tax breaks, tax incentives, special
treatment etc.
## saw another CBC documentary where they took
hidden camera's into
guadamala and costa rica... where expensive ladies
clothes were
made.... then shipped to 5th ave stores in NYC. The
reporters had
done some dumpster diving just outside the factory's...
and found
the paper work... depicting the exact break down cost to make
each
ladies blouse..... worked out to 2 cents a minute for labour... and
they gave em 11 minutes to make each one ! The shipping cost were
far
more than the labour cost. And these items sold for as much
as $180.00
US funds at Sach's on 5th ave.
## The living conditions of these
worker's was 3 steps below
deplorable. Unless you are willing to work
for the same $1.20 per
hour.... and the gov't allows co's to "outsource"
overseas.... the
union issue isn't even relevent here. Don't want to
work for slave
labour rates?? Fine.. we'll just..."out source" ur
manufacturing
job then.
### The same documentry depicted typ wage
in China at 17 cents...
per day ! Hundreds of workers were brought in
from the country
side... and had been working for several months.. and
still hadn't
been paid. With a Communist gov't running the show... and a
load of
serious fire power to back em up... stuff like unions and human
rights just went out the window. Of course the smart guys in Hong
Kong showed em exactly how to do it too..since they are all in the
same bed together. I'm half expecting Hsu to come and blast us
all.
Perhaps he can tell us who he voted for in the last election
LOL.
### I'll go out on a limb and say.... in 10 years... u are
finished...toast. The middle class will be completely gone.... and
there won't be enough of the upper class to pay for all this
mess.
## someday... somebody will have to tune in.. and just say...
if it
ain't made here... u can't sell it here. Notice NO TV's have been
made in Japan since 1987. Once India seems to expensive... China
will be the next place to "do business". Once China is deemed too
expensive... the workload will just pass on to the next 3rd world
country... and the cycle keeps on going.
### Wanna work for Bill
Gates ?? He pays a whopping $5 grand per
year....... in India. Of course
you have to be fully trained.. and
have all the appropriate University
degree's. If you don't like it
after a while.... you can always just
cross the street... and
process Income tax returns..for the IRS. And
people wonder why the
crime and divorce rates keep going up.
Later... and told ya so.
Jim VE7RF
