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Re: Panasonic/Matsushita Switcher HV-PS u-Wave Oven

Dick
 

Very interesting Rich.
What would be the regulation of this switched mode power supply?
Cheers, Dick

--- In ham_amplifiers@..., R L Measures <r@...> wrote:

I purchased one unit from Costco. The price was $99. The unit was
surprisingly light in weight compared to my old transformer-
powered
400W u-wave oven. I found no RFI problem from 50 - 550 MHz. The
rating is 1300w, which is most probably the DC input power to the
magnetron. At 120V, c. 17A of current is drawn. If a SSB amateur
radio amplifier was built using the Matsushita switcher PS, two
units
are probably needed. By putting the 120V inputs to the two
switcher
supplies in series, operation from a standard, 240VCT, 20A outlet
would work. I have not yet disassembled the oven to measure the
HV.
Does anyone know what's the typical range of potentials used to
power
magnetrons of this size? tnx

R L MEASURES, AG6K. 805-386-3734
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Re: Censorship/Administrator

Pete Smith
 

And what's the alternative? I should "out" him? That's not my prerogative, either.

I have been a member of amps since its inception, and while I disagree with prior restraint of speech, I think its series of moderators have acted with great self-control in the face of extraordinary provocation. I believe the previous moderator resigned at least in part because of the private vitriol directed at him.

I'm done now - if you guys are going to run an amps reflector, talk amps.

73, Pete N4ZR

At 11:45 AM 9/20/2006, Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH) wrote:
Pete, I guess you do what you think you must do, BUT, I have a lot of trouble with the idea that someone operates an ¡°open¡± forum and feels the need to hide. That concept really bothers me. I post my name and callsign every time I post to a reflector, and I am very suspicious about the intentions of someone who feels the need to hide in the shadows.

73,
Mike, W5UC

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From: ham_amplifiers@... [mailto:ham_amplifiers@...] On Behalf Of Pete Smith
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:26 AM
To: ham_amplifiers@...
Subject: Re: [ham_amplifiers] Censorship/Administrator


I am going to respect his anonymity.

73, Pete N4ZR

At 08:32 AM 9/20/2006, Jan Erik Holm wrote:
OK it isn?t W8JI, who is it?

73 SM2EKM
--------------------------------------
Pete Smith wrote:
This may be my first and last post on this list, but I wanted to clear
a few misconceptions:

Tom Rausch is not the Admin of Amps. I'm not either ;^)

W4AN was not a fan of free speech - he replaced me as Admin of
Towertalk when I refused to censor posts there; this is not a knock on
Bill, just a difference of philosophy.

I run a local community affairs mailing list with only two rules - sign
your real name and maintain basic civility - keep it substantive, not
personal. In 6 years, I've had to ban one person for a week. A
parallel list has no such rules, and has disintegrated into ugly name-
calling.

From what I have read, such a regime on amps would have worked pretty
well, though the Admin would have had to ban a few people.

73, Pete Smith N4ZR



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Re: Censorship/Administrator

Dino Darling
 

My guess is that Pete won't get banned from here, if that was what he was implying. If he chooses not to post here, it will be of his own free will. at least, this is my understanding of policy on this new and improved list.

I wonder who else has been banned from the other list in the past week...

At 04:45 AM 9/20/2006, you wrote:

This may be my first and last post on this list, but I wanted to clear
a few misconceptions:
Dino - K6RIX
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New Group

 

I am very happy we have found a new unmoderated home. Recent posts on
the old group have been boaring to say the least.

Welcome to all and lets continue to have free and meaningful
discussions on this great topic!


John Coupe
WA3BXH


issues

Martin AA6E
 

Here's a simple request from one op who is interested in amps. Personal grudge matches are bad news and will put off people who don't have any ax to grind. If we really want to support ham amplifier work, this stuff is counterproductive. Let's take our flames back to the NNTP world.

I am giving the Yahoo group a try, because I think the anonymous moderation and "appropriate use" policies of the other list were very worrisome.

I hope I don't have to unsubscribe from both of these groups!

73 Martin AA6E


Re: Censorship/Administrator

FRANCIS CARCIA
 

I just hope we don't spend 3 weeks deciding which size wire to run to the shack.
That one sent me running away.

bill_w4zv wrote:

--- In ham_amplifiers@yahoogroups.com, "Pete Smith" wrote:

> I run a local community affairs mailing list with only two rules - sign
> your real name and maintain basic civility - keep it substantive, not
> personal.

I agree Pete, although I also maintain strict topic focus on the
Topband reflector.

AG6K wrote:
>I was booted off of AMPS by W8JI, Charles Thomas Rauch, Jr.

This list is off to a great start with a lie. I know who the
moderator is also and confirm it's not W8JI (...or me).

73, Bill



Re: Censorship/Administrator

 

On Sep 20, 2006, at 4:45 AM, Pete Smith wrote:

This may be my first and last post on this list, but I wanted to clear
a few misconceptions:

Tom Rausch is not the Admin of Amps
There is no Admin of AMPS. From its beginning in late 1996, AMPS has always had a moderator --- who was identified. I got booted off AMPS three times by three different moderators for questioning the accuracy of W8JI's technical statements.

I'm not either ;^)
Chortle. Nobody is the "Administrator". It's another Rauchian word game. For example, Tom says I wasn't booted off of AMPS, he says I was "unsubscribed".



W4AN was not a fan of free speech -
Definitely not. AMPS got started in 1996 because things went badly for W8JI during the grate parasitics debate on rec.amateur- radio.homebrew. W4AN's AMPS provided W8JI with a venue where anyone who disagreed with W8JI's technical fumbles could be booted. Thus, Tom's guru status could be protected, at least in the minds of those who believed in his infallibility.

RE: W4AN & free speech: After Bill Fisher died at such a young age, I tried to find out how it happened. I could find out nothing from the County Coroner. Rumor was that there was an automobile accident, that the car landed in water a considerable distance from the highway, and that it happened near a drag-strip in Georgia. My guess is that the Coroner's Report was suppressed because the toxicology finding would have been an embarrassment.

he replaced me as Admin of
Towertalk when I refused to censor posts there; this is not a knock on
Bill, just a difference of philosophy.
Censoring posts should be a last resort. When censoring becomes a weapon to protect pals, the group gradually loses credibility and begins morphing into a mutual admiration society.

I run a local community affairs mailing list with only two rules - sign
your real name and maintain basic civility - keep it substantive, not
personal.
sounds reasonable, but the ultimate censor is being ignored by the rest of the group.

In 6 years, I've had to ban one person for a week. A
parallel list has no such rules, and has disintegrated into ugly name-
calling.
AMPS has had ugly name-calling and no action was taken because the name-caller was a pal of the "Administrator"-censor, W8JI. During the grate debate on rec.amateur-radio.homebrew, there was an abundance of name calling from the Rauchian camp after Wes, N7WS, published the measurements of Q, Rp, Z, and Y of low-Q parasitic suppressors vs. W8JI parasitic suppressors.

From what I have read, such a regime on amps would have worked pretty
well, though the Admin would have had to ban a few people.
But Joe Subich is Tom's pal.

farewell, Pete

73, Pete Smith N4ZR






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R L MEASURES, AG6K. 805-386-3734
r@...


Re: Censorship/Administrator

bill_w4zv
 

--- In ham_amplifiers@..., "Pete Smith" <n4zr@...> wrote:

I run a local community affairs mailing list with only two rules - sign
your real name and maintain basic civility - keep it substantive, not
personal.
I agree Pete, although I also maintain strict topic focus on the
Topband reflector.

AG6K wrote:
I was booted off of AMPS by W8JI, Charles Thomas Rauch, Jr.
This list is off to a great start with a lie. I know who the
moderator is also and confirm it's not W8JI (...or me).

73, Bill


Re: Censorship/Administrator

Mike&#92;(W5UC&#92;) & Kathy&#92;(K5MWH&#92;)
 

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Pete, I guess you do what you think you must do, BUT, I have a lot of trouble with the idea that someone operates an ¡°open¡± forum and feels the need to hide.? That concept really bothers me.? I post my name and callsign every time I post to a reflector, and I am very suspicious about the intentions of someone who feels the need to hide in the shadows.

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73,

Mike, W5UC

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From: ham_amplifiers@... [mailto:ham_amplifiers@...] On Behalf Of Pete Smith
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:26 AM
To: ham_amplifiers@...
Subject: Re: [ham_amplifiers] Censorship/Administrator

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I am going to respect his anonymity.

73, Pete N4ZR

At 08:32 AM 9/20/2006, Jan Erik Holm wrote:
>OK it isn?t W8JI, who is it?
>
>73 SM2EKM
>--------------------------------------
>Pete Smith wrote:
>> This may be my first and last post on this list, but I wanted to clear
>> a few misconceptions:
>>
>> Tom Rausch is not the Admin of Amps. I'm not either ;^)
>>
>> W4AN was not a fan of free speech - he replaced me as Admin of
>> Towertalk when I refused to censor posts there; this is not a knock on
>> Bill, just a difference of philosophy.
>>
>> I run a local community affairs mailing list with only two rules - sign
>> your real name and maintain basic civility - keep it substantive, not
>> personal. In 6 years, I've had to ban one person for a week. A
>> parallel list has no such rules, and has disintegrated into ugly name-
>> calling.
>>
>>>From what I have read, such a regime on amps would have worked pretty
>> well, though the Admin would have had to ban a few people.
>>
>> 73, Pete Smith N4ZR
>>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>
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Re: Censorship/Administrator

 

Yes I know you would but there might be others!

/SM2EKM
-------------

Pete Smith wrote:

I am going to respect his anonymity.
73, Pete N4ZR
At 08:32 AM 9/20/2006, Jan Erik Holm wrote:
OK it isnt W8JI, who is it?

73 SM2EKM
--------------------------------------
Pete Smith wrote:
This may be my first and last post on this list, but I wanted to clear a few misconceptions:

Tom Rausch is not the Admin of Amps. I'm not either ;^)

W4AN was not a fan of free speech - he replaced me as Admin of Towertalk when I refused to censor posts there; this is not a knock on Bill, just a difference of philosophy.

I run a local community affairs mailing list with only two rules - sign your real name and maintain basic civility - keep it substantive, not personal. In 6 years, I've had to ban one person for a week. A parallel list has no such rules, and has disintegrated into ugly name-
calling.
From what I have read, such a regime on amps would have worked pretty
well, though the Admin would have had to ban a few people.

73, Pete Smith N4ZR


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Re: Censorship/Administrator

Pete Smith
 

I am going to respect his anonymity.

73, Pete N4ZR

At 08:32 AM 9/20/2006, Jan Erik Holm wrote:
OK it isn?t W8JI, who is it?

73 SM2EKM
--------------------------------------
Pete Smith wrote:
This may be my first and last post on this list, but I wanted to clear
a few misconceptions:

Tom Rausch is not the Admin of Amps. I'm not either ;^)

W4AN was not a fan of free speech - he replaced me as Admin of
Towertalk when I refused to censor posts there; this is not a knock on
Bill, just a difference of philosophy.

I run a local community affairs mailing list with only two rules - sign
your real name and maintain basic civility - keep it substantive, not
personal. In 6 years, I've had to ban one person for a week. A
parallel list has no such rules, and has disintegrated into ugly name-
calling.

From what I have read, such a regime on amps would have worked pretty
well, though the Admin would have had to ban a few people.

73, Pete Smith N4ZR



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Re: Who is?

 

Mike,
?
Jack the Jag's story can be found at
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-John,?N9RF?
?
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-----Original Message-----
From: w5uc@...
To: ham_amplifiers@...
Sent: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 4:54 AM
Subject: [ham_amplifiers] Who is?

Apparently the discusion got squashed on the other reflector. SO, who 
is Jack Gerritsen?

73,
Mike, W5UC






 
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Re: Censorship/Administrator

 

OK it isnt W8JI, who is it?

73 SM2EKM
--------------------------------------
Pete Smith wrote:

This may be my first and last post on this list, but I wanted to clear a few misconceptions:
Tom Rausch is not the Admin of Amps. I'm not either ;^)
W4AN was not a fan of free speech - he replaced me as Admin of Towertalk when I refused to censor posts there; this is not a knock on Bill, just a difference of philosophy.
I run a local community affairs mailing list with only two rules - sign your real name and maintain basic civility - keep it substantive, not personal. In 6 years, I've had to ban one person for a week. A parallel list has no such rules, and has disintegrated into ugly name-
calling.
From what I have read, such a regime on amps would have worked pretty
well, though the Admin would have had to ban a few people.
73, Pete Smith N4ZR


Censorship/Administrator

Pete Smith
 

This may be my first and last post on this list, but I wanted to clear
a few misconceptions:

Tom Rausch is not the Admin of Amps. I'm not either ;^)

W4AN was not a fan of free speech - he replaced me as Admin of
Towertalk when I refused to censor posts there; this is not a knock on
Bill, just a difference of philosophy.

I run a local community affairs mailing list with only two rules - sign
your real name and maintain basic civility - keep it substantive, not
personal. In 6 years, I've had to ban one person for a week. A
parallel list has no such rules, and has disintegrated into ugly name-
calling.

From what I have read, such a regime on amps would have worked pretty
well, though the Admin would have had to ban a few people.

73, Pete Smith N4ZR


Re: new list

GGLL
 

Jan Erik Holm escribi:
Thanks to W3SLK for the info, it finaly made the
old amps-list.
I was sorry to see what happened over at the old list,
personally I hate censorship no matter what it is.
I sent a message there announcing the creation of this new list and it was censored, so I guess if "you know who" erased it to prevent AMPS "instability".
Things became personal matters.

Best regards
Guillermo - LU8EYW.
For years I have been wounder who the moderator was at
the amps-list, I know now, guess I should have figured
it out.
73 Jim SM2EKM


Re: Moderator

GGLL
 

Agreed 100%.

Best regards
Guillermo - LU8EYW.

w5uc escribi:

There is something really wrong when the name of the moderator must be kept a secret. Looking forward to enjoying the new group.
73.
Mike, W5UC


Re: Who is?

 

It didnt, atleast I read answers. Please, instead use
Google and lets keep it to amplifiers and related things
on this list.

73 Jim SM2EKM
---------------------

w5uc wrote:

Apparently the discusion got squashed on the other reflector. SO, who is Jack Gerritsen?
73,
Mike, W5UC


Who is?

w5uc
 

Apparently the discusion got squashed on the other reflector. SO, who
is Jack Gerritsen?

73,
Mike, W5UC