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Re: AL-811/572B


 

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Hal,

Thanks for the clarification. Yes, the AL-811 does have an adjustable tuned input. This is why I mentioned the fact the slug was at the end of the coil form.

I'm very familiar with the VNA and can use it sweep the input and find/make the necessary adjustments.?

This amp is a 3 tub amplifier with 572b tubes. From what I have read, this is what i understand the steps to be:

  1. Remove power from the amp
  2. Remove the tubes
  3. Solder in a N.I. 220-ohm resistor between the grid and cathode pin on each tube.
  4. Attach a 50 ohm load to the output port of the amp
  5. Attach a calibrated VNA to the input
  6. Provide temp power to the TR relay
  7. Measure / adjust the 80 meter tuning coil for best SWR

Here is another question:

The load provided by the resistors are going to purely resistive. How can I compensate for reactances associated with the tube loading??

I assume the new tubes I installed have different loading from the 811s originally installed in the amp and the reason I'm unable to properly tune the input on 80 meters. Also it begs the question as to why the other bands are fine and only 80 meters is affected?

Again, Thanks for all of your help!

Jim - AA7CL

On 5/1/25 12:14, HaL Mandel via groups.io wrote:

Dear Jim,

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While I was describing the method for employing a

non-inductive resistor in place of the tube circuit

in a grid-driven tetrode scheme, the methodology

carries into basically the same steps in tuning

in the input circuit of a triode.

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Does your amplifier have a way to fine-tune

the RF Input?

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Then, yanking the tubes and soldering in

an N.I. is the least destructive method of

starting to pinpoint the sweet spot.

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For now, leave off the SpecAn completely.

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The VNA looking into the amplifier input

port will provide a ¡°notch¡± in the VNA

linear display such as determining the

Return Loss. The reason I mentioned

adding something like a 10pF silver mica

is for you to see the result of this both

in the linear return loss graph and on

the Smith Chart display.

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Adding tiny amounts of capacitance or

inductance will cause these displays to

change shape sharply, and may give you

a clue as to what may be needed to

move on to the 50 ohm, J-zero location

on the VNA Smith Chart.

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A method I find useful is to actually wire

up a Pi filter on the input circuit and use

some sort of reflectometer, like a Fwd/Refl

SWR meter, and to tweak the amp input in real time,

like a ¡°double tune-up,¡± but all this takes

so much time while the ionosphere is boiling

away at the speed of light.

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Hal

W4HBM

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