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Troubleshooting Elektor SDR Shied?

 

Hi all, I recently bought a new SDR Hands-on Kit from Elektor, but it doesn't appear to be acting normally. Below is a summary of what I've done and am seeing. If anyone has suggestions on further troubleshooting, I'd be very grateful. I have an oscilloscope if that would be helpful.

Thanks much,

Frank


-- Soldered the four pin-headers to the SDR shield's board, installed an antenna connector, mounted the SDR shield atop my Arduino Uno board, connected to Windows 10 PC via USB. Attached an antenna (known to work well with another SDR). Used a stereo audio cable to connect the SDR shield's output to my PC's soundcard input.

-- Downloaded G8JCFSDR Build 282, installed it on the PC. Configured it to run as Administrator. Configured for the COM port, SDRModel = ElektorSDRShield, selected soundcard's in and out as per my PC. Entered other settings on the G8JCFSDR top panel per the manual.

-- When I first launched the program, it advised me that the Uno firmware must be updated. It performed an update to v1.3 with no errors.

-- After rebooting my PC, I launched the program and clicked to set Power = On. At this point, there is no visible activity on the top panel, and no sound from the PC's speakers. I tried tuning to known active frequencies (10 MHz for WWV, 7.074 MHz for 40-meter FT8), with no change.

-- To verify that the Windows sound system is set correctly, I closed the G8JCFSDR program and launched the audio app Audacity. With the SDR shield connected, Audacity shows a low level of noise at the soundcard input. If I connect/disconnect the antenna from the SDR shield, there is a momentary jump in noise. However, there is no perceivable modulation, just a low level of random noise.

-- A multimeter shows that +3.3v, +5v and gnd are reaching the SDR shield.


Re: Elektor board

 

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If you just want to use it as an SDR you just have to load the tuning software into the Arduino, but there are instructions in the articles.

If want to do more then you might want to program the Arduino.

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Dave

G4UGM

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Massimo
Sent: 07 January 2021 14:08
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [g8jcfsdr] Elektor board
Importance: High

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Really? No programming need? So it will be Ok for me!

Thanks, Dave.

IK5FEV

Massimo

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Il 07/01/2021 12:26, Dave Wade ha scritto:

Massimo,

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The old board also has a USB socket and FTDI USB to Serial emulation chip which was used to set the frequency,

On the new board the Arduino provides the USB interface. Its just used so the host PC can set the frequency of the SDR.

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Dave

G4UGM

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Massimo
Sent: 07 January 2021 11:06
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [g8jcfsdr] Elektor board
Importance: High

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Thank you for your assistance in the matter! Very interesting and cheap kit, as always.

I have read the articles but I still cannot understand the need of Arduino. Is it necessary for programmming the functions of the receiver? The old board had three sockets: antenna, power supply and BF output and it worked.? Would you please help me to understand? Sorry for my lack of familiarity in Arduino, for me it's a new thing to deal with!

Massimo

IK5FEV

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Il 07/01/2021 10:09, Dave Wade ha scritto:

I asked Elektor what soldering was needed on the SDR board and they replied:-

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>It is only the headers that need to be soldered.
>The module is identical to the one in the SDR Hands On Kit.

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So just a matter of soldering the headers that connecter to the Arduino board. The accompanying articles are now apparently free to download, but you have to register.

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Dave

G4UGM

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave Wade via groups.io
Sent: 07 January 2021 08:00
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [g8jcfsdr] Elektor board

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Massimo,

I bought the ¡°SDR Hands On Kit¡±

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and it came with the module ready built, but it looks as if you now have to solder the connectors to the board. You also need an Arduino.

The book has all the instructions the instructions. I believe you can download the articles from the links in the module:-

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I have e-mailed Elektor to see what comes in the new module.

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Dave

G4UGM

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Massimo
Sent: 07 January 2021 00:48
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [g8jcfsdr] Elektor board

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Ok, Dave, I understand. Would you please be so kind to send me the link where I can find everything I need to build the new receiver? I am not expert in programming, so I need a ''ready to go'' unit!
Thank you all.
Massimo


Re: Elektor board

 

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Really? No programming need? So it will be Ok for me!

Thanks, Dave.

IK5FEV

Massimo


Il 07/01/2021 12:26, Dave Wade ha scritto:

Massimo,

?

The old board also has a USB socket and FTDI USB to Serial emulation chip which was used to set the frequency,

On the new board the Arduino provides the USB interface. Its just used so the host PC can set the frequency of the SDR.

?

Dave

G4UGM

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?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Massimo
Sent: 07 January 2021 11:06
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [g8jcfsdr] Elektor board
Importance: High

?

Thank you for your assistance in the matter! Very interesting and cheap kit, as always.

I have read the articles but I still cannot understand the need of Arduino. Is it necessary for programmming the functions of the receiver? The old board had three sockets: antenna, power supply and BF output and it worked.? Would you please help me to understand? Sorry for my lack of familiarity in Arduino, for me it's a new thing to deal with!

Massimo

IK5FEV

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Il 07/01/2021 10:09, Dave Wade ha scritto:

I asked Elektor what soldering was needed on the SDR board and they replied:-

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>It is only the headers that need to be soldered.
>The module is identical to the one in the SDR Hands On Kit.

?

So just a matter of soldering the headers that connecter to the Arduino board. The accompanying articles are now apparently free to download, but you have to register.

?

Dave

G4UGM

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave Wade via groups.io
Sent: 07 January 2021 08:00
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [g8jcfsdr] Elektor board

?

Massimo,

I bought the ¡°SDR Hands On Kit¡±

?

?

and it came with the module ready built, but it looks as if you now have to solder the connectors to the board. You also need an Arduino.

The book has all the instructions the instructions. I believe you can download the articles from the links in the module:-

?

?

I have e-mailed Elektor to see what comes in the new module.

?

Dave

G4UGM

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Massimo
Sent: 07 January 2021 00:48
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [g8jcfsdr] Elektor board

?

Ok, Dave, I understand. Would you please be so kind to send me the link where I can find everything I need to build the new receiver? I am not expert in programming, so I need a ''ready to go'' unit!
Thank you all.
Massimo


Re: Elektor board

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Massimo,

?

The old board also has a USB socket and FTDI USB to Serial emulation chip which was used to set the frequency,

On the new board the Arduino provides the USB interface. Its just used so the host PC can set the frequency of the SDR.

?

Dave

G4UGM

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Massimo
Sent: 07 January 2021 11:06
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [g8jcfsdr] Elektor board
Importance: High

?

Thank you for your assistance in the matter! Very interesting and cheap kit, as always.

I have read the articles but I still cannot understand the need of Arduino. Is it necessary for programmming the functions of the receiver? The old board had three sockets: antenna, power supply and BF output and it worked.? Would you please help me to understand? Sorry for my lack of familiarity in Arduino, for me it's a new thing to deal with!

Massimo

IK5FEV

?

Il 07/01/2021 10:09, Dave Wade ha scritto:

I asked Elektor what soldering was needed on the SDR board and they replied:-

?

>It is only the headers that need to be soldered.
>The module is identical to the one in the SDR Hands On Kit.

?

So just a matter of soldering the headers that connecter to the Arduino board. The accompanying articles are now apparently free to download, but you have to register.

?

Dave

G4UGM

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave Wade via groups.io
Sent: 07 January 2021 08:00
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [g8jcfsdr] Elektor board

?

Massimo,

I bought the ¡°SDR Hands On Kit¡±

?

?

and it came with the module ready built, but it looks as if you now have to solder the connectors to the board. You also need an Arduino.

The book has all the instructions the instructions. I believe you can download the articles from the links in the module:-

?

?

I have e-mailed Elektor to see what comes in the new module.

?

Dave

G4UGM

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Massimo
Sent: 07 January 2021 00:48
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [g8jcfsdr] Elektor board

?

Ok, Dave, I understand. Would you please be so kind to send me the link where I can find everything I need to build the new receiver? I am not expert in programming, so I need a ''ready to go'' unit!
Thank you all.
Massimo


Re: Elektor board

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Thank you for your assistance in the matter! Very interesting and cheap kit, as always.

I have read the articles but I still cannot understand the need of Arduino. Is it necessary for programmming the functions of the receiver? The old board had three sockets: antenna, power supply and BF output and it worked.? Would you please help me to understand? Sorry for my lack of familiarity in Arduino, for me it's a new thing to deal with!

Massimo

IK5FEV


Il 07/01/2021 10:09, Dave Wade ha scritto:

I asked Elektor what soldering was needed on the SDR board and they replied:-

?

>It is only the headers that need to be soldered.
>The module is identical to the one in the SDR Hands On Kit.

?

So just a matter of soldering the headers that connecter to the Arduino board. The accompanying articles are now apparently free to download, but you have to register.

?

Dave

G4UGM

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave Wade via groups.io
Sent: 07 January 2021 08:00
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [g8jcfsdr] Elektor board

?

Massimo,

I bought the ¡°SDR Hands On Kit¡±

?

?

and it came with the module ready built, but it looks as if you now have to solder the connectors to the board. You also need an Arduino.

The book has all the instructions the instructions. I believe you can download the articles from the links in the module:-

?

?

I have e-mailed Elektor to see what comes in the new module.

?

Dave

G4UGM

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Massimo
Sent: 07 January 2021 00:48
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [g8jcfsdr] Elektor board

?

Ok, Dave, I understand. Would you please be so kind to send me the link where I can find everything I need to build the new receiver? I am not expert in programming, so I need a ''ready to go'' unit!
Thank you all.
Massimo


Re: Elektor board

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

I asked Elektor what soldering was needed on the SDR board and they replied:-

?

>It is only the headers that need to be soldered.
>The module is identical to the one in the SDR Hands On Kit.

?

So just a matter of soldering the headers that connecter to the Arduino board. The accompanying articles are now apparently free to download, but you have to register.

?

Dave

G4UGM

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave Wade via groups.io
Sent: 07 January 2021 08:00
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [g8jcfsdr] Elektor board

?

Massimo,

I bought the ¡°SDR Hands On Kit¡±

?

?

and it came with the module ready built, but it looks as if you now have to solder the connectors to the board. You also need an Arduino.

The book has all the instructions the instructions. I believe you can download the articles from the links in the module:-

?

?

I have e-mailed Elektor to see what comes in the new module.

?

Dave

G4UGM

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Massimo
Sent: 07 January 2021 00:48
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [g8jcfsdr] Elektor board

?

Ok, Dave, I understand. Would you please be so kind to send me the link where I can find everything I need to build the new receiver? I am not expert in programming, so I need a ''ready to go'' unit!
Thank you all.
Massimo


Re: Elektor board

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Massimo,

I bought the ¡°SDR Hands On Kit¡±

?

?

and it came with the module ready built, but it looks as if you now have to solder the connectors to the board. You also need an Arduino.

The book has all the instructions the instructions. I believe you can download the articles from the links in the module:-

?

?

I have e-mailed Elektor to see what comes in the new module.

?

Dave

G4UGM

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Massimo
Sent: 07 January 2021 00:48
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [g8jcfsdr] Elektor board

?

Ok, Dave, I understand. Would you please be so kind to send me the link where I can find everything I need to build the new receiver? I am not expert in programming, so I need a ''ready to go'' unit!
Thank you all.
Massimo


Re: Elektor board

Joachim Rabe
 

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Hi, Massimo,

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does it necessarily have to be the ¡°Elektor Board¡±?

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If not, I have a used ¡°SAT Schneider DRT1¡± for sale.

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Joachim

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Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Massimo
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Januar 2021 01:48
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [g8jcfsdr] Elektor board

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Ok, Dave, I understand. Would you please be so kind to send me the link where I can find everything I need to build the new receiver? I am not expert in programming, so I need a ''ready to go'' unit!
Thank you all.
Massimo


Re: Elektor board

 

Ok, Dave, I understand. Would you please be so kind to send me the link where I can find everything I need to build the new receiver? I am not expert in programming, so I need a ''ready to go'' unit!
Thank you all.
Massimo


Re: Elektor board

 

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I would say go for the new shield. Much better sensitivity on the higher HF bands.

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Dave

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of G8JCF
Sent: 06 January 2021 18:57
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [g8jcfsdr] Elektor board

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Hi Massimo

Wishing you good luck with finding the older Elektor SDR board.

However the Elektor SDR Shield is a very worthy successor and offers much improved tuning precision and accuracy imho.

Thanks for joining the group

Take Care & Stay Safe

Peter - GM8JCF


Re: Elektor board

 

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Markotime, give me please your request for sale and features of that board. What about shipping to Italy?

Thanks, regards


Il 06/01/2021 21:24, markotime ha scritto:

I have the newer one for sale half price plus postage from canada

On Wed, Jan 6, 2021, 10:53 Massimo <ik5fev@...> wrote:

Nice to meet you all!
I am looking for an Elektor board w/serial interface. Anybody can tell me where to find this old item? My unit worked very well for me for years, until his death!


Re: Elektor board

 

I have the newer one for sale half price plus postage from canada


On Wed, Jan 6, 2021, 10:53 Massimo <ik5fev@...> wrote:

Nice to meet you all!
I am looking for an Elektor board w/serial interface. Anybody can tell me where to find this old item? My unit worked very well for me for years, until his death!


Re: Elektor board

 

Hi Massimo

Wishing you good luck with finding the older Elektor SDR board.

However the Elektor SDR Shield is a very worthy successor and offers much improved tuning precision and accuracy imho.

Thanks for joining the group

Take Care & Stay Safe

Peter - GM8JCF


Elektor board

 


Nice to meet you all!
I am looking for an Elektor board w/serial interface. Anybody can tell me where to find this old item? My unit worked very well for me for years, until his death!


Welcome to [email protected]

 

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Hi.

I want to partecipate, thanks.

73,

Massimo

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Re: "SDR Revisited" performance vs. RSP-1A

 

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Elektor Sdr Shield
??? Sensitivity 1uV
??? Price? € 35
RSP1a
?? Sensitivity 0.20 uV
?? Price? € 135.50

"You pays your money and you takes your choice"

With a decent aerial, the Elektor SDR Shield works fairly well especially here in Europe where sw broadcast signals are very strong especially on 41m band, and hence why sensitivity is not that important.

is a good reference to the MLA-30 Antenna for those interested.

73

Peter - GM8JCF


Re: "SDR Revisited" performance vs. RSP-1A

 

On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 12:31 AM, markotime wrote:
I do not understand what you are asking or comparing:
Hooked up my MLA-30 : which is an antenna
hooked up the RSP-1A : which is an SDR

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What setup do you compare to what else? Or should I first read other posts?
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PE3ES / F4VTQ de Erwin


"SDR Revisited" performance vs. RSP-1A

 

Hooked up my MLA-30 and was able to drag in WWV at 10 MHz, but very little else.? For comparison, I hooked up the RSP-1A and got excellent WWV at 5 and 15 as well, plus lots of broadcast and other stuff.
I used MLA-30 Bias-T box for the Elektor unit, but the RSP-1A provides its own feed.? That box is considered a bit noisy by some, but it may also be RF front end overload.? In any event, I can't believe that it
should be that bad.? Anyone got experience / ideas? thanks so much !/mark


Re: G8JCF SDR in Windows 10 shows only half of the software panel - settings panel can not be seen

 

Good DX !!

73

Peter - GM8JCF


Re: G8JCF SDR in Windows 10 shows only half of the software panel - settings panel can not be seen

 

Thank you, that works like a charm. Awesome and fast support. 73