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Whatho Fellow Cliftonaires,

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Firstly, I trust this e-mail finds you all safe and well and looking forward to a super summer with improving conditions both on the wireless and weather front.

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Lawrie (G4FAA) e-mailed suggesting we hold a ‘pre-release net’ or? ‘pre-Demob net’ on Sunday 18th 闯耻濒测………….

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An excellent optimistic reason as ever from Lawrie!

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As a result? The next Clifton Country Club net will be on Sunday 18th July at 1400Hrs GMT? (3pm BST) on or near 3.690Mhz +/-

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Why not fire up the transceiver and join the gang on 80m to see how your Clifton pals have been faring and what they are planning? to do after ‘release day’ on 19th July.

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Needless to say, the return to full relaxation of restrictions still depends on the status of the virus ‘D’ variant. So fingers crossed!

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Catch you on the wireless!

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73 es stay safe de Tony es Suzanne.

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PS. A very warm welcome to Clive GW0PPO on joining the group

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Clive Jenner
 
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See Keith G4TJE you are on the group!

73 Clive GW0PPO


Re: Short wave listening, a good start.

 

John , A fascinating story and a treasured possession from the Queen Mary, a personal reply and? a lovely QSL card.

My route into the hobby was the fault of my parents? hi hi , who owned a very nice all in one TV, radiogram and multiband radio receiver. A work of art in Carpentry, the cabinet had the radiogram and radio housed in a slide out drawer. Made by "DECCA" I do recall. To an ntrained 10 year old however, the radio was particularly annoying ...... other than the usual mundane BBC Home or Light programme there was this very boring band marked? "SW" on which nothing could be heard.? Very disappointing.? My Father advised me that it wouldn't work because it needed a separate aerial ... which he duly demonstrated using a length of wire across the lounge :-) Well the TV was soon replaced? (625 line TV helped ), and the radio receiver section removed from the cabinet into the attic and a much better random wire antenna attached with the help of a washing line post? at the end of the garden. .

The SW band came alive and I was hooked.

Tony, my first true Short Wave radio receiver was an H.A.C single valve regen receiver. Battery powered with separate "HT" and "LT" batteries it gave me hours of fun.

Still prefer twirling a knob on a receiver than clicking a mouse on a waterfall display ....... maybe that's me getting old ?



73

Bob G4DBW

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Short wave listening, a good start.

 

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Hello Fellow Cliftonaires,

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Following a recent chat on the ‘twisted pair’ with John Lambert (G3FNZ) about our respective paths into the hobby. John told me how as a 15yr old he had been given a copy of ‘Practical Wireless’ by a friend. This led John to building the three valve battery operated receiver that had featured in the ‘PW………….The rest as they would say now is history.??

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I hope you enjoy reading John’s article together with the letter/QSL (jpeg attached) as much as I did.

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A Message from RMS Queen Mary

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? By John Lambert

In 1945 I returned to South East London as a 15 year old school boy, having been away for 5 years as an evacuee.

I became very interested in the workings of radio sets, and one day a friend gave me a copy of a magazine called “Practical Wireless” and in this was the design of a 3 valve battery operated shortwave receiver.? I decided that I would like to build this, and checked on my pocket money but after several donation request visits to my grandparents, had enough money to purchase all the components necessary.

I built the receiver, and to my delight and surprise it worked, and I spent many happy hours listening to broadcasts from around the world.? At that time the majority of the transmissions were either national or commercial broadcast stations, as very few countries had started to re-issue amateur licences.

It was with great surprise, therefore, that on one occasion I heard two men talking to each other, and this intrigued me and it was some time before I understood what was going on.? The answer was that it was an interview being made for the BBC programme “Monday Night at Eight”, wherein the programme comprised a number of small snippets of information deemed to be of interest to the general public.?

One of the items that was broadcast each week was an interview with a famous person whose birthday coincided with the specific broadcast.? After listening to the transmission for some time I realised that this was an interview being made for this programme, and the person of interest was Sir Thomas Beecham.? The only trouble was that Sir Thomas had been to America and was on his way home, and was on board the RMS Queen Mary in mid-Atlantic.

The transmission was spoiled because Sir Thomas would insist on shouting into the microphone, which caused considerable distortion.? Also that somebody on board the ship kept removing their headphones, which resulted in all sorts of squeals and other weird noises.

This particular interview was being made via shortwave radio, and had to be carefully controlled to avoid interference and signal fading, to both of which this method of long-distance transmission is very prone.

I was so intrigued by the whole thing, that I had the temerity to write to Cunard’s for the attention of the Chief Radio Officer of the Queen Mary, and a few weeks later was delighted to receive a reply confirming my comments about the transmission, and was “over the moon” to receive a picture of the Queen Mary’s radio room.

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Similar to John, albeit a few decades later I too was an avid SWL. Again starting with a regenerative two valve battery operated receiver. Then acquiring an Eddystone 670 receiver on a ‘long term loan’ from the late Ken Willis (G8VR) who was a neighbour of mine at the time.

Being an SWL was a rite of passage and the accepted pathway into amateur radio. Unfortunately this aspect of the hobby seems to have lost ground as manually tuning a receiver among the general population is a ‘forgotten skill’ in these days of ‘Alexa’ and digital streaming.

For those of us who still have the curiosity, temerity and perseverance, the HF bands outside our frequency allocations are still fertile areas

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For example, a very strong AM signal on 3.973 MHz proclaiming to be ‘Amateur Radio on line news’. This featured a very professional presentation of news items from the ARRL, RSGB, Australian Radio Society as well as JARL etc. I have a suspicion the signals originated in central Europe (Germany?).

A clandestine “numbers station” was found on 4.212Mhz. Albeit, using USB with five letter groups in phonetics. The operator with a distinct North American accent concluded with “This is top-dog out” Shortly after the transmissions resumed with much weaker signals which could be indicative of the transmitter on a different ‘beam-heading’.

The station that made both Suzanne and I smile was on 9.330 MHz AM, with the station ident of WLC (World’s Last Chance). Programme content was to say the least very unusual, with very slick professional presentation, wrapped round an evangelical theme claiming the world is flat!???????? I am not joking!

The transmitter is located in the state of Maryland USA and claims an output power of 500KW to a large rotatable antenna array. The station has apparently been totally refurbished including the new antenna array, all funded by the WLC organisation who broadcast 24hrs a day 365day a year!

For the aeronautical fans try 11.300Mhz USB ATC main call frequency for North and Central Africa with regular ‘unauthorised chatter’ between ‘controllers’ at Cairo, Khartoum and Addis Ababa ?

And finally on 5.262Mhz USB (60m CW allocation) Scottish trawler-men off Orkney discussing the day’s catch.

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My thanks to John (G3FNZ) for allowing me to circulate his script and the image of the QSL.

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73 es keep listening es stay safe de Tony es Suzanne.

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Re: Cllfton Field Day Tent

 

Hello Frank,
No need to apologise .... my memory fails me from time to time ... it was a fair while ago. ? Your memory of former members corresponds closely to mine, a few others that come to mind are Harry G3UAD (who taught me Morse Code) and from the "logistics" ? team Reg Hinton, who was club secretary during my time at the Clifton.? Don't recall meeting Nick at any of the forays to Whitehill Farm,? which was then used for both HF and VHF NFD's. If I recall you were often on 4m as GJ3WMR.

Memories of the Agincourt Special include forgetting to fit the finiall on the top of the main pole before heaving into the vertical position, and failing miserably to get the wooden pegs into the flinty soil at White Hill Farm. A substantial tent made originally by Henry V in 1415 ?? ....... they dont make 'em like that anymore!?

73

Bob G4DBW


Re: Cllfton Field Day Tent

 

No worries, Steve.

Everything comes to him who waits and I certainly don't live an? 'always on'? internet life.? The most reliable way for anyone to get me fairly quickly is still SMS text on 07757 643 756 (dumbphone with no Whatsapp or multi-media messaging but normally switched on wherever I am).? Pre covid I was seldom at home much so no broadband or landline contract,? only ad hoc tethering/wifi.? ?? I can go several days without checking any mail but now this group is up and running I look forward to keeping in touch with old friends and also to learning more about Cliftonaires from other decades who I have never met in person.

Clifton ARS? was a great club to belong to and lives on in the current form because we all have such good memories of those days.

73 to all,? Frank G3WMR


Re: Cllfton Field Day Tent

 

Sorry Frank - I didnt notice there was a message in the moderator's pot. I obviously dont pay enough attention!

73
Steve


Re: Cllfton Field Day Tent

 

As soon as I sent that message I realised that I had left out Bob G4DBW from the list of operators. how that could have happened escapes me as I have sat in the Agincourt Special alongside Bob and witnessed his very capable operating, way above my skill level. Apologies, Bob.

As a group newbie I had to wait to be moderated so am now able to submit the apology.? 73 Frank


Cllfton Field Day Tent

 

Hi everyone

Lawrie, myself and others enjoyed a blast from the past last night (Thurs 18 March).

Cray Valley had a Zoom lecture given by Nick Bradley G4IWO from the Denby Dale club .? Nick turned out to be a former Clifton member.

One of Nick's slides featured the old white field day which became known as the 'Agincourt? Special' due to its timeless medieval design. It was a square shaped bell tent with a central and very substantial wooden pole which sorted a magnificent finial ball on the top which presumably stopped the rain from going down inside.

Nick reminisced over those outings with Jakey at the helm and remembered that we used a farm on the North Downs but could not recall the name. Yours truly came to his rescue with, of course, 'White Hill Farm' above Shoreham Village.

I did not overlap membership with Nick despite doing quite a few HF NFDs up there.? My memories were mainly of Jakey, Peter G3RQZ, Dave G3JJZ and Cyril G3DIC as the principal operators with myself and Alan Broadstock G3XTO (who joined the club as Bill Martin's protegee and took the morse test with me) as apprentice operators/loggers. The many G8s at the time (APV, AQD, CCL, DDW, DIU) plus Norman Moore, Dave Reed and Mr Fletcher (Steve's Dad)? formed the logistics department. Apologies to any I may have forgotten to include.

Frank G3WMR


Re: Historical insight

 

To add to Tony’s comments, also finding John’s reminiscing of the early Clifton years fascinating. ?

I was born in Hither Green and spent many an afternoon in Mountsfield Park...... the site of the early CARS field days. Clifton must have been on friendly terms with the park keepers , who were always chasing us hooligans out of the park for riding our bikes hi hi .?

The sorry tale of the generator supply in those early years seems to have dogged CARS field day efforts throughout the years .... until the purchase of a club Honda generator rated at 600 watts . This served us well when field day was restricted to 10 watts dc input power.?

If my memory is correct , didn’t ?Norman Moore ( or his father?) work at the New Cross tram/ bus garage opposite 225 New X Road? And maybe had a hand in securing the rental of the building ??

73

Bob G4DBW?


Historical insight

 

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Whatho Gang,

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Just to say how much I appreciate the historical insight given by John (G3FNZ) into the background, activities and personalities involved in the ‘early days’ of the Clifton.?

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Keep it coming John it is all fascinating stuff.

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More so as I am one of those who joined fairly late in day (circa 1981), when club ?meetings were held in the upstairs room of the New Cross Inn, at the junction of Clifton Rise and New Cross Road.

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73 es stay safe

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Tony es Suzanne.


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Hi Chaps ?a few more comments re the early days of the club? For theD/F outings some members built their own? receivers but others used the receiver part of the ex gov type 68 set.

The RSGB field day at Mansfield park was big learning curve as our r kit was mains powered r so we had to use car battery plus a rotary converter and an ex gov petrol generator. This latter was not strong enough so had to shut down every? hour to /recharge

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One year to celebrate a club anniversary (possible 15 yrs) we had a semi formal dinner for members and partners at Catford cricket club . As my father was president of the cricket club I was able have the use of the club rooms for free so kept the cost to reasonable level.

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That’s enough waffle from me? 73?? John? G3FNZ

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Teleprinter

 

Hi everyone,

I know several of you collect vintage kit, but does anyone have a working teleprinter??

You may be aware that I do most of my radio now with the local Scouts at Gilwell Park and we are designing a "code breaking" Scout activity to be delivered in a Bletchley Park style hut. A rattling teleprinter pulling some rtty signals off the air might add something to the feel of the activity and I wondered if there is one we could borrow, or if it is delicate then the owner would be welcome to join us to look after his pride and joy.

I appreciate that this isnt what really happened in WWII, but a 15 year old wont know the difference!

73
Steve, M0BPQ
PS - might be immaterial if not scout events run this summer!


Re: Atrocious Condx on Sunday's Net

 

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Sorry tried calling but poor conditions so gave up , maybe next time will be better?
73
M0hal?


On 22 Feb 2021, at 14:45, Tony Cadney via groups.io <a35uz@...> wrote:

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Hello Gang,

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Yesterday’s atrocious conditions on 80m apparently prevented all but the well located and well equipped stations from being heard.

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Peter (G3PJB) tenaciously called against a deluge of noise and shuddering QSB. At best he was 2&3 here in Norfolk, it took several attempts to resolve his call-sign.

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Even Peter (G3RQZ) was not his normal ‘needle bending’ self. His signals hovered around 57 and only once or twice reached +20db for fleeting moments courtesy of his TL922 linear.

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Both Peter (G3RQZ) and I struggled to resolve Peter’s (G3PJB) transmissions without much success.

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After a brief discussion of our experiences of obtaining our Covid vaccinations and leaving several extended gaps for other others to join, Peter and I decided it was pointless to continue.

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We therefore closed the net at 3pm.

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Following the net I received an apology from Lawrie G4FAA via the G3GHN reflector. Lawrie went on to suggest we have the next CC Net to mark being released from the third ‘lockdown’.

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May I suggest we wait and see what Boris has to announce at this evening’s press conference.

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Thanks to all those who tried to join the net but were defeated by the conditions.

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To think that only a few days ago 80m was in such good shape my 5w QRP signals were gaining 599 reports.

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Strange business this wireless,

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73 es 88s de Tony es Suzanne.

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Atrocious Condx on Sunday's Net

 

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Hello Gang,

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Yesterday’s atrocious conditions on 80m apparently prevented all but the well located and well equipped stations from being heard.

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Peter (G3PJB) tenaciously called against a deluge of noise and shuddering QSB. At best he was 2&3 here in Norfolk, it took several attempts to resolve his call-sign.

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Even Peter (G3RQZ) was not his normal ‘needle bending’ self. His signals hovered around 57 and only once or twice reached +20db for fleeting moments courtesy of his TL922 linear.

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Both Peter (G3RQZ) and I struggled to resolve Peter’s (G3PJB) transmissions without much success.

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After a brief discussion of our experiences of obtaining our Covid vaccinations and leaving several extended gaps for other others to join, Peter and I decided it was pointless to continue.

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We therefore closed the net at 3pm.

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Following the net I received an apology from Lawrie G4FAA via the G3GHN reflector. Lawrie went on to suggest we have the next CC Net to mark being released from the third ‘lockdown’.

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May I suggest we wait and see what Boris has to announce at this evening’s press conference.

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Thanks to all those who tried to join the net but were defeated by the conditions.

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To think that only a few days ago 80m was in such good shape my 5w QRP signals were gaining 599 reports.

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Strange business this wireless,

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73 es 88s de Tony es Suzanne.

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CCC on sunday

 

Sorry folks - fam problem so did not join until late by which time you had all gone . Pity 80m seemed good that pm.

Hopefully ok for next time - say first sunday pm after release from lockdown 3 Tony?

73

Lawrie g4faa ( mon am)


FW: Clifton

 

From: John Lambert
Sent: 20 February 2021 16:12
To: g3ghn@...
Subject: Clifton

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Hi chaps? ??- a bit more history. After a few Years we were able to take over tenancy the premises as the original tenants were trade union at the New Cross bus/tram depot which had shut down. We had the use oft basement as well so had space for a workshop With a work bench, tools and test equipment .? Friday evenings included talks , morse code practice and? general nattering.

Early on some members took the ?City and Guilds exam for their? ham license, the first member to obtain one being John Theobald? G3EQM.?? Other activities included Direction finding which always took place on a Sunday at Green street green.. ??Bill M martin and Norman Moore would depart to find a hide hole and everybody would try to find their very low power Tx.? At 4pm all would gather back at the start for tea etc at the café- very popular with cyclists.the club affiliated with the RSGB and took part in national field days – the first being at Mansfield park Catford..

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????????????? 73 KEEP WELL?? John G3FNZ


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HI ?Chaps just a few more details of the Clubs early days.

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We only met a few times at the Clifton rise school as Norman Moore got wind of society in New Cross that rented a down stairs property for meetings and were prepared to sub-let to us for our Friday evenings.

The property was at 225 New Cross road and we could use the two ground floor rooms plus the minute kitchen. From which Norman would dispense coffee or tea to the members’.

Once we had members with a licence we had to have a club station, this would require a receiver but we had no funds, this was overcome by selling scrap copper obtained by burning old transformers to remove cores and insulation. Once we had some cash we were able to purchase an ex Navy B28receiver this was a Marconi CR100 in civil life.

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Trust you are all keeping well? 73 John? G3FNZ


Re: Some Clifton History

 

Hi all,
Moved by John Lambert's comments about the club's early history, I have done a little research using the Shortwave Magazine archive to find mentions of the Clifton A.R.S. A .pdf file is (hopefully) attached. I have searched from 1946 up to 1954. I compliment John's memory on the MCC results from over 60 years ago!

My own introduction to the Clifton was through a visit to Norman Moore's QTH in Inchmery Road Catford in about 1972. I saw his address in a copy of the RSGB callbook.?


73 Bob G4DBW


19yrs of Clifton CC Net

 

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Whatho Cliftonaires,

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Firstly, here’s hoping you are all keeping well and Covid free!

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The first Clifton Country Club Net was held on 21st January 2002 ??to mark this event? there will be a Clifton CC Net this Sunday 21st February? at 14.30hrs on 3.690Mhz.

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Hopefully you can join in and tell us how you are dealing with the present situation, as well as the extreme weather.

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Also, if you have taken advantage of the improving conditions on the bands?

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The sales of hobby equipment, including ham radio kit are booming. Have you acquired a new piece of kit recently why not tell us about it?

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Catch you on the wireless this Sunday.

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73 es 88s de Tony es Suzanne.

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