Jonathon,

Use PKT mode and the rear data jack for FM

Jim

JG1KGS

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Hello Bill here N3GTY I use my FT817 from time? to time as an APRS Fill in Digi for Packet I must use the Microphone input for FM if not all you will get is a Carrier transmitted

For sound card packet I use MixW software.? I hope this helps 73 for now Bill N3GTY

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Jonathan,

"Be Prepared!"

the FT-817 will do FM just as well, if not better, than a 2m Baofeng. What's the exact problem?

Generally, when the 817 is set to 2m (144MHz) with the band switch, and FM with the mode switch, and with a 2m antenna attached, then it simply needs a working microphone plugged in to the socket on the side for speech.

Assuming that the 817 receives on 2m, and presuming that you have, or apparently have, all of those items above, then the most likely issues with FM, but no transmitted audio are:

1) the microphone is faulty (if using speech FM) (try substituting another mike, preferably from a working 817)

2) the receivers are using a CTCSS access tone (or DCS) and your transmission has not been set up to send these signals (for speech FM)

3) the mode for packet on 2m FM is PKT if using packet data (not FM)

But when all else fails read the fine manual, which you will find, assuming that it's an FT-817ND at? or for the FT-817 at . It isn't always easy to follow, but for these purposes the information is all there. You may well need other information, particularly for ARES operation, where "Be Prepared" is very much the order of the day!

You didn't say, but presumably for HF data operation you've been using a laptop and audio interface cable to the DATA socket, and possibly another cable to the CAT socket to control PTT (other options are available). That setup should also work for 2m FM data, assuming that you're using fldigi (or similar multi-mode program). You'll also need to adjust fldigi to the correct mode.

Debugging things remotely can be frustrating, but p.41 of the 817ND user manual Packet (1200/9600 bps FM) Operation is very much your friend, and details setting the baud rate (1200 or 9600) and deviation (mic gain, menu #39). You will need a local FM receiver (better a deviation meter), and preferably a knowledgeable friend or mentor to help you set the deviation correctly. (The ND is a more robust 817, is still labelled FT-817, but offers 3, rather than 2, colours under menu item #15.)

No-one ever said it would be easy or simple! Good luck, 73,

Robin, G8DQX

?

Hello all:

We use fldigi for my local ares group. ?I want to use my FT817 for some simple practice at our local face to face meetings. ?When I go to transmit I don't get any audio out of the radio.

I know you need to use the "User-U" mode for digital on HF, but I'm working with people with baofengs on 2m fm...

Many thanks,

Jonathan?

KC1BOS

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Hello Everyone!

Thank you all for the great responses.? I've included two below (I hope they get all the way through the yahoo system...)? The first is the very first reply I saw to the group from JG1KGS Jim.? Packet and rear data port for data on FM (The exact same idea as User-U for data on ssb)

The second reply was a nicely written set of debugging steps from G8DQX Robin.? This made me realize I did not describe my setup well enough.

My setup was: FT-817 with factory antenna (and added bnc right angle adapter).? My normal setup for digital outside our face to face meetings uses my FT897 and a signalink, so for our monthly meeting I grabbed my signalink and the 817 thinking the little radio with internal battery and ht style antenna would work way better than trying to fabri-cobble my way through a signalink-baofeng cable.? On the computer side is FLDigi (but that matters very little).

My biggest problem is I keep assuming "Its got the same buttons, nearly the same menu, same all-band all mode as the 897 (and 857 in my go kit), it must behave the same way.? Hey, it even uses the same data cable!"? That assumption is wrong.? It bit me the first time I went do SSB digital with the 817, and now it bit me when I went to do FM digital.

Now, if you will bear with a little rant:? The 897/857 will take digital audio in on any of the SSB settings or the FM settings.? I haven't tried AM, but it might work there too.? I find it really frustrating that a Yaesu radio, part of the 8*7 family behaves differently.? (I know, I know, different model, different features...).? But, here is a question that came to mind while I was writing this email.? With ARES we tend to coordinate our digital traffic using voice on the same frequency.? When the radio is in packet mode, will the hand mic work?? I've never wondered about this on HF-SSB side, those frequencies do not allow for voice.? I'll have to test this and find out.? I'll report back after I test!

TL;DR: Set to packet mode.? FT817 is not a FT857.

Jonathon,

Use PKT mode and the rear data jack for FM

Jim

JG1KGS

?

Jonathan,

"Be Prepared!"

the FT-817 will do FM just as well, if not better, than a 2m Baofeng. What's the exact problem?

Generally, when the 817 is set to 2m (144MHz) with the band switch, and FM with the mode switch, and with a 2m antenna attached, then it simply needs a working microphone plugged in to the socket on the side for speech.

Assuming that the 817 receives on 2m, and presuming that you have, or apparently have, all of those items above, then the most likely issues with FM, but no transmitted audio are:

1) the microphone is faulty (if using speech FM) (try substituting another mike, preferably from a working 817)

2) the receivers are using a CTCSS access tone (or DCS) and your transmission has not been set up to send these signals (for speech FM)

3) the mode for packet on 2m FM is PKT if using packet data (not FM)

But when all else fails read the fine manual, which you will find, assuming that it's an FT-817ND at? or for the FT-817 at . It isn't always easy to follow, but for these purposes the information is all there. You may well need other information, particularly for ARES operation, where "Be Prepared" is very much the order of the day!

You didn't say, but presumably for HF data operation you've been using a laptop and audio interface cable to the DATA socket, and possibly another cable to the CAT socket to control PTT (other options are available). That setup should also work for 2m FM data, assuming that you're using fldigi (or similar multi-mode program). You'll also need to adjust fldigi to the correct mode.

Debugging things remotely can be frustrating, but p.41 of the 817ND user manual Packet (1200/9600 bps FM) Operation is very much your friend, and details setting the baud rate (1200 or 9600) and deviation (mic gain, menu #39). You will need a local FM receiver (better a deviation meter), and preferably a knowledgeable friend or mentor to help you set the deviation correctly. (The ND is a more robust 817, is still labelled FT-817, but offers 3, rather than 2, colours under menu item #15.)

No-one ever said it would be easy or simple! Good luck, 73,

Robin, G8DQX

On 17/11/16 01:00, Jonathan Wilson eaglescout.jonathan@... [FT817] wrote:

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Hello all:

We use fldigi for my local ares group. ?I want to use my FT817 for some simple practice at our local face to face meetings. ?When I go to transmit I don't get any audio out of the radio.

I know you need to use the "User-U" mode for digital on HF, but I'm working with people with baofengs on 2m fm...

Many thanks,

Jonathan?

KC1BOS