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My father gave me this article back in 2002 and we made a few dipoles.? I'd love to get a copy of this article, but can't find it anywhere online.? Would anyone happen to have a copy of this???
I think these dipoles are made from foam twinlead.? Maybe I am remembering the wrong article.
?
73,
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Jerry? K8CMI
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Ask the ARRL if they have a digital copy. I know they have them on CD for past publications.
2M0WHN
My father gave me this article back in 2002 and we made a few dipoles.? I'd love to get a copy of this article, but can't find it anywhere online.? Would anyone happen to have a copy of this???
I think these dipoles are made from foam twinlead.? Maybe I am remembering the wrong article.
?
73,
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Jerry? K8CMI
-- To know a man, walk a mile in his shoes. You will be one mile away and wearing new shoes.
If you loan someone ?20 and never see them again, think of it as a good investment.
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ARRL members have access to the archives. I can look if I remember.
On Wed, Oct 2, 2024, 14:59 william Northcote via <william.northcote= [email protected]> wrote: Ask the ARRL if they have a digital copy. I know they have them on CD for past publications.
2M0WHN
My father gave me this article back in 2002 and we made a few dipoles.? I'd love to get a copy of this article, but can't find it anywhere online.? Would anyone happen to have a copy of this???
I think these dipoles are made from foam twinlead.? Maybe I am remembering the wrong article.
?
73,
?
Jerry? K8CMI
--
To know a man, walk a mile in his shoes. You will be one mile away and wearing new shoes.
If you loan someone ?20 and never see them again, think of it as a good investment.
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My father gave me this article back in 2002 and we made a few dipoles.? I'd love to get a copy of this article, but can't find it anywhere online.? Would anyone happen to have a copy of this???
I think these dipoles are made from foam twinlead.? Maybe I am remembering the wrong article.
?
73,
?
Jerry? K8CMI
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All current ARRL members have access to every article in every QST ever published.
If you are not a current member, I suppose you could ask anyone that is a member to grab a copy for you.
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On Oct 2, 2024, at 16:02, Jerry Steele via groups.io <gdsteele@...> wrote:
? My father gave me this article back in 2002 and we made a few dipoles.? I'd love to get a copy of this article, but can't find it anywhere online.? Would anyone happen to have a copy of this???
I think these dipoles are made from foam twinlead.? Maybe I am remembering the wrong article.
?
73,
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Jerry? K8CMI
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I looked and the digital archives for QST just go back to 2012.
73,
Greg Wilde, AE4GW
On Wed, Oct 2, 2024, 6:01?PM Tobias KK7BCO/2M0TFF via <feltusfecit1= [email protected]> wrote: ARRL members have access to the archives. I can look if I remember.
On Wed, Oct 2, 2024, 14:59 william Northcote via <william.northcote= [email protected]> wrote: Ask the ARRL if they have a digital copy. I know they have them on CD for past publications.
2M0WHN
My father gave me this article back in 2002 and we made a few dipoles.? I'd love to get a copy of this article, but can't find it anywhere online.? Would anyone happen to have a copy of this???
I think these dipoles are made from foam twinlead.? Maybe I am remembering the wrong article.
?
73,
?
Jerry? K8CMI
--
To know a man, walk a mile in his shoes. You will be one mile away and wearing new shoes.
If you loan someone ?20 and never see them again, think of it as a good investment.
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Greg:
Unfortunately, ARRL's offering of archival issues of QST can be
somewhat difficult to navigate, but you can get access:
1.? You are correct that the "digital archives" only goes as far
back as 2012, BUT:
2.? Earlier-than-2012 issues (actually, individual articles) are
also available all the way back to 1913 or thereabouts, but via a
different process:
2a.? Start at ARRL home page, login as ARRL member
2b. After login, go back to ARRL home page (if not already there)
and click on "Technology"
2c. Click on "Periodicals archive and search"
2d. Enter various search items into text blocks, e.g., month, or
year, or authors name, etc.? In this case, enter "2002" for the
year, "Feburary" for the month, and "twin-lead dipole" for the
title/keywords, and a new window will pop up providing a link to
the article.
This "search" process can also be used for any year of QST
(including the "digital archives".)? Although the process to
access articles is different for pre-2012 vs. 2012-and-on years.
Mike N4MWP
On 10/2/24 18:08, AE4GW-Greg Wilde
wrote:
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I looked and the digital archives for QST just go back to
2012.
73,
Greg Wilde, AE4GW
On Wed, Oct 2, 2024, 6:01?PM
Tobias KK7BCO/2M0TFF via <feltusfecit1= [email protected]>
wrote:
ARRL members have access to the archives. I can
look if I remember.
On Wed, Oct 2, 2024, 14:59
william Northcote via
<william.northcote= [email protected]>
wrote:
Ask the ARRL if they have a digital copy. I
know they have them on CD for past publications.
2M0WHN
My father gave me this article back in 2002 and
we made a few dipoles.? I'd love to get a copy of
this article, but can't find it anywhere online.?
Would anyone happen to have a copy of this???
I think these dipoles are made from foam twinlead.?
Maybe I am remembering the wrong article.
?
73,
?
Jerry? K8CMI
--
To know a man, walk
a mile in his shoes. You will be one mile away and
wearing new shoes.
If you loan someone ?20 and never see them again, think
of it as a good investment.
|
Mike,?
Thanks for that information.? I was not aware of that.?
Greg Wilde, AE4GW
Greg:
Unfortunately, ARRL's offering of archival issues of QST can be
somewhat difficult to navigate, but you can get access:
1.? You are correct that the "digital archives" only goes as far
back as 2012, BUT:
2.? Earlier-than-2012 issues (actually, individual articles) are
also available all the way back to 1913 or thereabouts, but via a
different process:
2a.? Start at ARRL home page, login as ARRL member
2b. After login, go back to ARRL home page (if not already there)
and click on "Technology"
2c. Click on "Periodicals archive and search"
2d. Enter various search items into text blocks, e.g., month, or
year, or authors name, etc.? In this case, enter "2002" for the
year, "Feburary" for the month, and "twin-lead dipole" for the
title/keywords, and a new window will pop up providing a link to
the article.
This "search" process can also be used for any year of QST
(including the "digital archives".)? Although the process to
access articles is different for pre-2012 vs. 2012-and-on years.
Mike N4MWP
On 10/2/24 18:08, AE4GW-Greg Wilde
wrote:
I looked and the digital archives for QST just go back to
2012.
73,
Greg Wilde, AE4GW
On Wed, Oct 2, 2024, 6:01?PM
Tobias KK7BCO/2M0TFF via <feltusfecit1= [email protected]>
wrote:
ARRL members have access to the archives. I can
look if I remember.
On Wed, Oct 2, 2024, 14:59
william Northcote via
<william.northcote= [email protected]>
wrote:
Ask the ARRL if they have a digital copy. I
know they have them on CD for past publications.
2M0WHN
My father gave me this article back in 2002 and
we made a few dipoles.? I'd love to get a copy of
this article, but can't find it anywhere online.?
Would anyone happen to have a copy of this???
I think these dipoles are made from foam twinlead.?
Maybe I am remembering the wrong article.
?
73,
?
Jerry? K8CMI
--
To know a man, walk
a mile in his shoes. You will be one mile away and
wearing new shoes.
If you loan someone ?20 and never see them again, think
of it as a good investment.
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Greg:
I sent you a pdf of the article.? I also sent it to the group.
On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 3:50 PM, Mike Dinolfo <mdinolfo@...> wrote:
Greg:
Unfortunately, ARRL's offering of archival issues of QST can be
somewhat difficult to navigate, but you can get access:
1.? You are correct that the "digital archives" only goes as far
back as 2012, BUT:
2.? Earlier-than-2012 issues (actually, individual articles) are
also available all the way back to 1913 or thereabouts, but via a
different process:
2a.? Start at ARRL home page, login as ARRL member
2b. After login, go back to ARRL home page (if not already there)
and click on "Technology"
2c. Click on "Periodicals archive and search"
2d. Enter various search items into text blocks, e.g., month, or
year, or authors name, etc.? In this case, enter "2002" for the
year, "Feburary" for the month, and "twin-lead dipole" for the
title/keywords, and a new window will pop up providing a link to
the article.
This "search" process can also be used for any year of QST
(including the "digital archives".)? Although the process to
access articles is different for pre-2012 vs. 2012-and-on years.
Mike N4MWP
On 10/2/24 18:08, AE4GW-Greg Wilde
wrote:
I looked and the digital archives for QST just go back to
2012.
73,
Greg Wilde, AE4GW
On Wed, Oct 2, 2024, 6:01?PM
Tobias KK7BCO/2M0TFF via <feltusfecit1= [email protected]>
wrote:
ARRL members have access to the archives. I can
look if I remember.
On Wed, Oct 2, 2024, 14:59
william Northcote via
<william.northcote= [email protected]>
wrote:
Ask the ARRL if they have a digital copy. I
know they have them on CD for past publications.
2M0WHN
My father gave me this article back in 2002 and
we made a few dipoles.? I'd love to get a copy of
this article, but can't find it anywhere online.?
Would anyone happen to have a copy of this???
I think these dipoles are made from foam twinlead.?
Maybe I am remembering the wrong article.
?
73,
?
Jerry? K8CMI
--
To know a man, walk
a mile in his shoes. You will be one mile away and
wearing new shoes.
If you loan someone ?20 and never see them again, think
of it as a good investment.
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I don't believe the group should store copyright-protected content - as I recall, the league is very good about pointing that out when you download an article...
QST articles are not in the public domain, as far as I know.
If the author wants to give you/us a shareable copy of an article they wrote, I believe they have that right...
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On Oct 4, 2024, at 16:52, D Jones via groups.io <Djoneses@...> wrote:
?Greg:
I sent you a pdf of the article.? I also sent it to the group. On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 3:50 PM, Mike Dinolfo <mdinolfo@...> wrote:
Greg:
Unfortunately, ARRL's offering of archival issues of QST can be
somewhat difficult to navigate, but you can get access:
1.? You are correct that the "digital archives" only goes as far
back as 2012, BUT:
2.? Earlier-than-2012 issues (actually, individual articles) are
also available all the way back to 1913 or thereabouts, but via a
different process:
2a.? Start at ARRL home page, login as ARRL member
2b. After login, go back to ARRL home page (if not already there)
and click on "Technology"
2c. Click on "Periodicals archive and search"
2d. Enter various search items into text blocks, e.g., month, or
year, or authors name, etc.? In this case, enter "2002" for the
year, "Feburary" for the month, and "twin-lead dipole" for the
title/keywords, and a new window will pop up providing a link to
the article.
This "search" process can also be used for any year of QST
(including the "digital archives".)? Although the process to
access articles is different for pre-2012 vs. 2012-and-on years.
Mike N4MWP
On 10/2/24 18:08, AE4GW-Greg Wilde
wrote:
I looked and the digital archives for QST just go back to
2012.
73,
Greg Wilde, AE4GW
On Wed, Oct 2, 2024, 6:01?PM
Tobias KK7BCO/2M0TFF via <feltusfecit1= [email protected]>
wrote:
ARRL members have access to the archives. I can
look if I remember.
On Wed, Oct 2, 2024, 14:59
william Northcote via
<william.northcote= [email protected]>
wrote:
Ask the ARRL if they have a digital copy. I
know they have them on CD for past publications.
2M0WHN
My father gave me this article back in 2002 and
we made a few dipoles.? I'd love to get a copy of
this article, but can't find it anywhere online.?
Would anyone happen to have a copy of this???
I think these dipoles are made from foam twinlead.?
Maybe I am remembering the wrong article.
?
73,
?
Jerry? K8CMI
--
To know a man, walk
a mile in his shoes. You will be one mile away and
wearing new shoes.
If you loan someone ?20 and never see them again, think
of it as a good investment.
|
This may the one or one that is similar:?
On Wednesday, October 2, 2024 at 02:02:00 PM PDT, Jerry Steele via groups.io <gdsteele@...> wrote:
My father gave me this article back in 2002 and we made a few dipoles.? I'd love to get a copy of this article, but can't find it anywhere online.? Would anyone happen to have a copy of this???
I think these dipoles are made from foam twinlead.? Maybe I am remembering the wrong article.
?
73,
?
Jerry? K8CMI
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You can put this in the "I'm not a lawyer, but..." category of opinions, and I realize that I"m straying off topic, but...?
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I've written a few QST articles over the years, and as I recall the author of an article assigns all rights to the ARRL.? So what I think I understand is that the author no longer owns the article and would not have permission to distribute copies.
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On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 05:56 PM, Ken N2VIP wrote:
If the author wants to give you/us a shareable copy of an article they wrote, I believe they have that right...
?
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Would the matter be considered "moot" if everyone got a link to the (publicly published) article and then they could just make their own copy of it??
On Monday, October 7, 2024 at 05:23:16 AM PDT, William, KR8L via groups.io <wpe9fon@...> wrote:
You can put this in the "I'm not a lawyer, but..." category of opinions, and I realize that I"m straying off topic, but...?
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I've written a few QST articles over the years, and as I recall the author of an article assigns all rights to the ARRL.? So what I think I understand is that the author no longer owns the article and would not have permission to distribute copies.
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On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 05:56 PM, Ken N2VIP wrote:
If the author wants to give you/us a shareable copy of an article they wrote, I believe they have that right...
?
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The article is from behind a paywall (ARRL member website), that some one downloaded it, stripped of the copyright notice on the cover page, then made it publicly available doesn't make it "public domain".
A link to the article behind ARRL website login would be 100% kosher, since it limits access to those that are current members.
I was mistaken before, the other list member was correct, it appears ARRL/QST retains sole ownership of items they publish - I was about 92% certain authors retain the right to freely share their own works after publishing it in QST.
The link to a PDF that was shared here was *clearly* created from the ARRL website, the content was the exact page layout taken directly from QST.
I know people like to think that sharing PDFs of a radio Service Manual is fair use because they own the radio and think the mfg owes them the SM, but in many/most cases the SM is a product the mfg tries to sell, so they retain copyright on it and discourage hams from sharing it amongst themselves. After a while, the mfg stop fighting it, and some turn a blind eye, but it's not something a group should condone, at least in my opinion, but I'm just one member.
Ken, N2VIP
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On Oct 7, 2024, at 18:46, wa6ixi via groups.io <wa6ixi@...> wrote:
Would the matter be considered "moot" if everyone got a link to the (publicly published) article and then they could just make their own copy of it?
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I really thing ARRL and QST dont mind someone making a copy of an article.? Would mind if you were to start selling it.? Like buying a book or getting QST, you can use the info in them.
Even posting on FB or Yahoo is often allowed.? I guest ARRL could get nasty if they wanted to, but since most all the articles are from other Hams they are for info to other Hams.
73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE/R Hernando Co ARES EC
Spring Hill, Florida also n9ee55@...
On Monday, October 7, 2024 at 08:05:39 PM EDT, Ken N2VIP <ken@...> wrote:
The article is from behind a paywall (ARRL member website), that some one downloaded it, stripped of the copyright notice on the cover page, then made it publicly available doesn't make it "public domain".
A link to the article behind ARRL website login would be 100% kosher, since it limits access to those that are current members.
I was mistaken before, the other list member was correct, it appears ARRL/QST retains sole ownership of items they publish - I was about 92% certain authors retain the right to freely share their own works after publishing it in QST.
The link to a PDF that was shared here was *clearly* created from the ARRL website, the content was the exact page layout taken directly from QST.
I know people like to think that sharing PDFs of a radio Service Manual is fair use because they own the radio and think the mfg owes them the SM, but in many/most cases the SM is a product the mfg tries to sell, so they retain copyright on it and discourage hams from sharing it amongst themselves. After a while, the mfg stop fighting it, and some turn a blind eye, but it's not something a group should condone, at least in my opinion, but I'm just one member.
Ken, N2VIP
> On Oct 7, 2024, at 18:46, wa6ixi via groups.io <wa6ixi@...> wrote:
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> Would the matter be considered "moot" if everyone got a link to the (publicly published) article and then they could just make their own copy of it?
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Here is site for 20m folded twin lead dipole
73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE/R Hernando Co ARES EC
Spring Hill, Florida also n9ee55@...
On Tuesday, October 8, 2024 at 02:10:36 PM EDT, Ron Wright via groups.io <lt_wright_flg@...> wrote:
I really thing ARRL and QST dont mind someone making a copy of an article.? Would mind if you were to start selling it.? Like buying a book or getting QST, you can use the info in them.
Even posting on FB or Yahoo is often allowed.? I guest ARRL could get nasty if they wanted to, but since most all the articles are from other Hams they are for info to other Hams.
73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE/R Hernando Co ARES EC
Spring Hill, Florida also n9ee55@...
On Monday, October 7, 2024 at 08:05:39 PM EDT, Ken N2VIP <ken@...> wrote:
The article is from behind a paywall (ARRL member website), that some one downloaded it, stripped of the copyright notice on the cover page, then made it publicly available doesn't make it "public domain".
A link to the article behind ARRL website login would be 100% kosher, since it limits access to those that are current members.
I was mistaken before, the other list member was correct, it appears ARRL/QST retains sole ownership of items they publish - I was about 92% certain authors retain the right to freely share their own works after publishing it in QST.
The link to a PDF that was shared here was *clearly* created from the ARRL website, the content was the exact page layout taken directly from QST.
I know people like to think that sharing PDFs of a radio Service Manual is fair use because they own the radio and think the mfg owes them the SM, but in many/most cases the SM is a product the mfg tries to sell, so they retain copyright on it and discourage hams from sharing it amongst themselves. After a while, the mfg stop fighting it, and some turn a blind eye, but it's not something a group should condone, at least in my opinion, but I'm just one member.
Ken, N2VIP
> On Oct 7, 2024, at 18:46, wa6ixi via groups.io <wa6ixi@...> wrote:
>
> Would the matter be considered "moot" if everyone got a link to the (publicly published) article and then they could just make their own copy of it?
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While it is stepping over the line to copy and distribute, it would have been more appropriate to just link to the article.? There is nothing special about a twinlead dipole, there have been reprints of articles for decades.? While I haven't looked, I own several ARRL publications that I am sure also include that article or at least one on the twinlead dipole.? They do make money from selling these books too.? Sad that twinlead is getting hard to find.? No local RAdio Shack to walk into these days and buy a 100ft. package.
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Al Skierkiewicz
WB9UVJ
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Tobias KK7BCO/2M0TFF
Mike Dinolfo
Al WB9UVJ