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Hi all, ? ?I've noticed that there are "compatible" knock offs of authentic Anderson power pole connectors at lower prices. Anyone have any experience with them? Springs, contacts? Thanks.
Joe N1KHB?
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I bought powerpole knockoffs from Amazon a few years ago. The housings would not mate up with the Powerwerx housings. The looked similar enough though. I wont try them again.?
On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 7:19 AM, Joseph Wonoski via groups.io <N1khb@...> wrote: Hi all, ? ?I've noticed that there are "compatible" knock offs of authentic Anderson power pole connectors at lower prices. Anyone have any experience with them? Springs, contacts? Thanks.
Joe N1KHB?
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I have a variety, they all seem to plug into each other well, but the black/red pairing of the housings seems to need to remain within each brand. I also have a non-branded ratcheting crimper which works very well.
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I ran into some knock-offs where the shells lacked a thru-hole for the metal prong to go thru - you couldn't see thru an empty connector.
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On May 18, 2024, at 09:50, Tobias KK7BCO/2M0TFF <feltusfecit1@...> wrote:
?I have a variety, they all seem to plug into each other well, but the black/red pairing of the housings seems to need to remain within each brand. I also have a non-branded ratcheting crimper which works very well.
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Joe,
It depends on where you buy them I guess.? McMaster had some that worked pretty well but as other have pointed out the mating slots and tabs are not identical.? We (my FIRST robotics team) ended up gluing them together when used in pairs.? Others are pretty good knock offs.? Price is kind of a clue.? If they are really cheap, they are not likely worth it.? The McMaster ones were pricey but we live close to headquarters and can have them in will call same day.? In a hurry I can run up to West Mountain Radio ( less than an hour away) and pick them up same day as well.
Al Skierkiewicz
WB9UVJ
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Junk and plastic is brittle and pins softer metal
Buy the real ones
MFJ ones are fake and cheap John Sent with a Palm Pilot @300 baud from a copper a landline
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John,
I had to laugh - I blurted out "of course!" As soon as I read that. ;^)
Ken, N2VIP
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On May 19, 2024, at 10:01, John <ve3ips@...> wrote:
MFJ ones are fake and cheap
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Well it is MFJ (Made from junk) as it is sort of known.
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That's my conclusion based on many of the responses. It's a good thing that the topic came up at all in my shopping. I never even knew that there were knockoffs until last week. ? ?Thanks to all for the help. Knoxville hamfest in a few weeks. Yay!
Joe N1KHB?
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:51 AM, Jeff WN1MB <jwbauer@...> wrote:
Buy once, cry once. Don't be penny wise and pound foolish.
On 5/19/24 11:01, John wrote:
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the real ones
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Now I have a question. Is there any way to know if you are
getting real Anderson Powerpole connectors? I know there are
several different shapes and sizes of the connecting part of the
connectors but I'm not sure which is the real Anderson connectors.
Pat, WA3UOE
On 5/20/2024 1:37 PM, Joseph Wonoski
via groups.io wrote:
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That's my conclusion based on many of the responses. It's a good
thing that the topic came up at all in my shopping. I never even
knew that there were knockoffs until last week.
? ?Thanks to all for the help. Knoxville hamfest in a few
weeks. Yay!
Joe N1KHB?
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:51 AM, Jeff WN1MB
Buy once, cry once. Don't be penny wise and pound
foolish.
On 5/19/24
11:01, John wrote:
Buy the real ones
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I think 'real' Powerpole cases have an A in a circle on them, like this (A).
Around here, lots of folks learned "read, right, red" - you assemble the connector so you can read the A, and red goes on the right of the pair.
I'm away from any Powerpole connectors, but that's my recollection...
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On May 20, 2024, at 12:44, Pat Campbell <Wa3uoe@...> wrote:
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Now I have a question. Is there any way to know if you are
getting real Anderson Powerpole connectors? I know there are
several different shapes and sizes of the connecting part of the
connectors but I'm not sure which is the real Anderson connectors.
Pat, WA3UOE
On 5/20/2024 1:37 PM, Joseph Wonoski
via groups.io wrote:
That's my conclusion based on many of the responses. It's a good
thing that the topic came up at all in my shopping. I never even
knew that there were knockoffs until last week.
? ?Thanks to all for the help. Knoxville hamfest in a few
weeks. Yay!
Joe N1KHB?
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:51 AM, Jeff WN1MB
Buy once, cry once. Don't be penny wise and pound
foolish.
On 5/19/24
11:01, John wrote:
Buy the real ones
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Correction, 'official' power poles appear to have an "A" on the connector end of the connection, the end you feed the wire into, see this image from powerwerx website:
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On May 20, 2024, at 14:37, Ken N2VIP <ken@...> wrote:
? I think 'real' Powerpole cases have an A in a circle on them, like this (A).
Around here, lots of folks learned "read, right, red" - you assemble the connector so you can read the A, and red goes on the right of the pair.
I'm away from any Powerpole connectors, but that's my recollection... Ken, N2VIP On May 20, 2024, at 12:44, Pat Campbell <Wa3uoe@...> wrote:
?
Now I have a question. Is there any way to know if you are
getting real Anderson Powerpole connectors? I know there are
several different shapes and sizes of the connecting part of the
connectors but I'm not sure which is the real Anderson connectors.
Pat, WA3UOE
On 5/20/2024 1:37 PM, Joseph Wonoski
via groups.io wrote:
That's my conclusion based on many of the responses. It's a good
thing that the topic came up at all in my shopping. I never even
knew that there were knockoffs until last week.
? ?Thanks to all for the help. Knoxville hamfest in a few
weeks. Yay!
Joe N1KHB?
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:51 AM, Jeff WN1MB
Buy once, cry once. Don't be penny wise and pound
foolish.
On 5/19/24
11:01, John wrote:
Buy the real ones
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I’ll add one comment. I recently needed a few of the SB-50 connectors to finish a project.?
Ordered a few from Amazon. The real Anderson crimp connector lugs have a longer tip than the Chinese ones. The Chinese shells have the spring clip extending too long with not enough space between the shell and the spring clip to let the Anderson lugs anchor.
They work if you only use theirs and don’t try to mix them.?
I scrapped them and ordered the shells that would work with the various wire gage Anderson lugs.?
Hope this helps someone.?
W4DBL
Doug Lynch
President?
Aries International, LLC
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Port Orange, FL
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On May 20, 2024, at 12:37, Ken N2VIP via groups.io <ken@...> wrote:
? I think 'real' Powerpole cases have an A in a circle on them, like this (A).
Around here, lots of folks learned "read, right, red" - you assemble the connector so you can read the A, and red goes on the right of the pair.
I'm away from any Powerpole connectors, but that's my recollection...
Ken, N2VIP
On May 20, 2024, at 12:44, Pat Campbell <Wa3uoe@...> wrote:
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Now I have a question. Is there any way to know if you are getting real Anderson Powerpole connectors? I know there are several different shapes and sizes of the connecting part of the connectors but I'm not sure which is the real Anderson connectors.
Pat, WA3UOE
On 5/20/2024 1:37 PM, Joseph Wonoski via groups.io wrote:
That's my conclusion based on many of the responses. It's a good thing that the topic came up at all in my shopping. I never even knew that there were knockoffs until last week.
? ?Thanks to all for the help. Knoxville hamfest in a few weeks. Yay!
Joe N1KHB?
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:51 AM, Jeff WN1MB
Buy once, cry once. Don't be penny wise and pound foolish.
On 5/19/24 11:01, John wrote:
Buy the real ones
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Doug,
SB50 connectors have terminals that come in different flavors.? Some are meant for high retention and look similar but not the same.? The Andersons also have an tight spec for crimping.? If you don't get the crimp just right, the terminal will not push all the way into the housing.? SB50 are color coded so don't try and mix colors, they won't mate.? If you are looking for a second source, try .? They only sell red SB50 blocks but have terminals and other Anderson connector as well as wire.? They cater to high school robotics and are really good about stocking and shipping.? If you call them mention my name.
Al Skierkiewicz
WB9UVJ
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Thanks.?
I was building some jumpers and extension cables with the heavy duty lugs.?
Good info.?
Doug Lynch
President?
Aries International, LLC
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D: +1-321-415-2191
M:?+1-478-318-2655
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E: Doug@...?
Port Orange, FL
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On May 20, 2024, at 15:00, Al WB9UVJ via groups.io <markaren1@...> wrote:
?Doug,
SB50 connectors have terminals that come in different flavors.? Some are meant for high retention and look similar but not the same.? The Andersons also have an tight spec for crimping.? If you don't get the crimp just right, the terminal will not push all
the way into the housing.? SB50 are color coded so don't try and mix colors, they won't mate.? If you are looking for a second source, try
.? They only sell red SB50 blocks but have terminals and other Anderson connector as well as wire.? They cater to high school robotics and are really good about stocking and shipping.?
If you call them mention my name.
Al Skierkiewicz
WB9UVJ
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The Anderson 45s I have in stock have an A molded into the end of the connector.? If you are looking at the terminal you will see the A just below the terminal.? The SB50 has "Anderson" molded into the body.
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Al Skierkiewicz
WB9UVJ
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I have never noticed those before. I have bought quantities of Powerpoles from sellers at hamfests. They said they were genuine Andersons. Now looking at them, I see those A's on the ends.
Using the crimp tool meant specifically for Powerpoles is a must if you do a large number of them. I have probably put hundreds of them on various cables.
Zack W9SZ
The Anderson 45s I have in stock have an A molded into the end of the connector.? If you are looking at the terminal you will see the A just below the terminal.? The SB50 has "Anderson" molded into the body.
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Al Skierkiewicz
WB9UVJ
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Connection to power is critical.? Genuine Powerpoles work, mate perfectly, do not separate.? When dealing with critical components, use the real thing.
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Joe
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Tobias KK7BCO/2M0TFF
Al WB9UVJ
John
Jeff WN1MB
Doug Lynch NNJ4EM