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Loosening tight screws


 

I finally decided to attach the side rails that came with my Portable Zero Pack to my 817nd.? The two screws on either side are so tight I can only barely loosen one of them.? The other three are way to tight and I don't want to damage the Phillips head screw.? Does anyone know of a method of loosening screws that are so tight?? Appreciate any and all advice.

73

Rich KB3OMJ


 

A small amount of heat. A heat gun or hairdryer will work. Assuming they have blue locktite on them, heat will soften the bond.?


On Sat, Apr 27, 2024, 07:41 hermit via <hermit=[email protected]> wrote:
I finally decided to attach the side rails that came with my Portable Zero Pack to my 817nd.? The two screws on either side are so tight I can only barely loosen one of them.? The other three are way to tight and I don't want to damage the Phillips head screw.? Does anyone know of a method of loosening screws that are so tight?? Appreciate any and all advice.

73

Rich KB3OMJ


 

Hi
It will help if you get a JIS driver.
Yeasu radios don't use Philips, they use JIS screws, you can use a Philips driver but it isn't the best fit.

this website explains it better than I can.

https://rtstools.com/jis-vs-phillips-screwdrivers-and-where-to-buy-a-jis-screwdriver/

Good luck.
?Neil


 

Hi Neil and the group,

Thanks for your post, I never knew JIS existed, I have never had a problem removing? the screws from yaesu products but have a lot of screw drivers also! I wonder if there is a US distributor for this Japanese manufacturer...

Thanks again for the Post and link

Vy 73,

Rick VE1RNM?

On Sat., Apr. 27, 2024, 2:04 p.m. sceadued via , <sceadued=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi
It will help if you get a JIS driver.
Yeasu radios don't use Philips, they use JIS screws, you can use a Philips driver but it isn't the best fit.

this website explains it better than I can.



Good luck.
?Neil


 

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Rick:

mcmaster.com sells JIS screwdrivers.? Mcmaster is an excellent supplier of many things hardware-related.? I consider their products (tools, materials) to be of high quality, not inexpensive but not overly expensive either.? I have no commercial interest in them; just a satisfied customer.

Mike N4MWP

On 4/27/24 13:40, VE1RNM wrote:

Hi Neil and the group,

Thanks for your post, I never knew JIS existed, I have never had a problem removing? the screws from yaesu products but have a lot of screw drivers also! I wonder if there is a US distributor for this Japanese manufacturer...

Thanks again for the Post and link

Vy 73,

Rick VE1RNM?

On Sat., Apr. 27, 2024, 2:04 p.m. sceadued via , <sceadued=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi
It will help if you get a JIS driver.
Yeasu radios don't use Philips, they use JIS screws, you can use a Philips driver but it isn't the best fit.

this website explains it better than I can.



Good luck.
?Neil



D Jones
 

VESSEL - ARMOR GRIP? Screwdriver Cross Point 4PC. Set (JISDRIVE) No.550APH4PBU



On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 1:55 PM, Mike Dinolfo
<mdinolfo@...> wrote:
Rick:

mcmaster.com sells JIS screwdrivers.? Mcmaster is an excellent supplier of many things hardware-related.? I consider their products (tools, materials) to be of high quality, not inexpensive but not overly expensive either.? I have no commercial interest in them; just a satisfied customer.

Mike N4MWP

On 4/27/24 13:40, VE1RNM wrote:
Hi Neil and the group,

Thanks for your post, I never knew JIS existed, I have never had a problem removing? the screws from yaesu products but have a lot of screw drivers also! I wonder if there is a US distributor for this Japanese manufacturer...

Thanks again for the Post and link

Vy 73,

Rick VE1RNM?

On Sat., Apr. 27, 2024, 2:04 p.m. sceadued via , <sceadued=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi
It will help if you get a JIS driver.
Yeasu radios don't use Philips, they use JIS screws, you can use a Philips driver but it isn't the best fit.

this website explains it better than I can.



Good luck.
?Neil



 

I agree on McMaster. They treat all customers the same no matter what size order, and delivery is FAST without special shipping charges. I used them for work and continue to use them for myself.

Joe N1KHB?




On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 1:55 PM, Mike Dinolfo
<mdinolfo@...> wrote:
Rick:

mcmaster.com sells JIS screwdrivers.? Mcmaster is an excellent supplier of many things hardware-related.? I consider their products (tools, materials) to be of high quality, not inexpensive but not overly expensive either.? I have no commercial interest in them; just a satisfied customer.

Mike N4MWP

On 4/27/24 13:40, VE1RNM wrote:
Hi Neil and the group,

Thanks for your post, I never knew JIS existed, I have never had a problem removing? the screws from yaesu products but have a lot of screw drivers also! I wonder if there is a US distributor for this Japanese manufacturer...

Thanks again for the Post and link

Vy 73,

Rick VE1RNM?

On Sat., Apr. 27, 2024, 2:04 p.m. sceadued via , <sceadued=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi
It will help if you get a JIS driver.
Yeasu radios don't use Philips, they use JIS screws, you can use a Philips driver but it isn't the best fit.

this website explains it better than I can.



Good luck.
?Neil



 

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Beat me to the punch, Neil! Thanks for informing the 817 group about JIT screws.

I found out about them "rather inelegantly" back in the 70's when doing consumer electronics repairs. I have since gotten religion. ;)

73, Jeff WN1MB

On 4/27/24 13:04, sceadued via groups.io wrote:

Hi
It will help if you get a JIS driver.
Yeasu radios don't use Philips, they use JIS screws, you can use a Philips driver but it isn't the best fit.

this website explains it better than I can.



Good luck.
?Neil


 

Mike and the group,

Thanks so much for link to McMaster, I definitely will be ordering from them, so much easier than directly from Japan.

Very best regards,

Rick VE1RNM?

On Sat., Apr. 27, 2024, 3:58 p.m. Jeff WN1MB via , <jwbauer=[email protected]> wrote:
Beat me to the punch, Neil! Thanks for informing the 817 group about JIT screws.

I found out about them "rather inelegantly" back in the 70's when doing consumer electronics repairs. I have since gotten religion. ;)

73, Jeff WN1MB

On 4/27/24 13:04, sceadued via wrote:
Hi
It will help if you get a JIS driver.
Yeasu radios don't use Philips, they use JIS screws, you can use a Philips driver but it isn't the best fit.

this website explains it better than I can.



Good luck.
?Neil


 

Hermit,
JIS drivers are also available on Amazon.? JIS was introduced to circumvent the Phillips drivers patents.? The drivers are not as pointed and so penetrate deeper in the JIDS screw head.? The screws are also a type of binder head so locking hardware is not needed.
--
Al Skierkiewicz
WB9UVJ


 

Amazon sells JIS screwdrivers.

Lonnie, N9IUI


 

Where can I find the size of the screws on the rig so that I can buy the right screwdriver? There are retailers in ?ire that sell a single screwdriver unit, which is far cheaper than buying a set. 72, Sandip EI7IJB


 

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Hi Rich,

?

Another trick (other than using the correct JIS driver of course) is to give the screw a slight nip in the clockwise (tightening) direction prior to trying to extract it.

?

73….Eric VK2VE.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of hermit
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2024 12:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ft817] Loosening tight screws

?

I finally decided to attach the side rails that came with my Portable Zero Pack to my 817nd.? The two screws on either side are so tight I can only barely loosen one of them.? The other three are way to tight and I don't want to damage the Phillips head screw.? Does anyone know of a method of loosening screws that are so tight?? Appreciate any and all advice.

73

Rich KB3OMJ


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Hot soldering iron tip pressed into the screw can work too, if you need good localization of heat.


 

Hi this post reminded me that I needed some jis drivers, as I work on radios,
Also have yaesu/ICOM /and Kenwood radios, when I worked on my ICOM ic-7000 I fitted new screws as they are very week, and did not use jis screwdriver ?,
I got them delivered from Amazon today, just over a ?10 for a 4pc set of drivers,
Dave 2E0DMB?

On Sun, 28 Apr 2024, 12:21 Eric van de Weyer via , <=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Rich,

?

Another trick (other than using the correct JIS driver of course) is to give the screw a slight nip in the clockwise (tightening) direction prior to trying to extract it.

?

73….Eric VK2VE.

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of hermit
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2024 12:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ft817] Loosening tight screws

?

I finally decided to attach the side rails that came with my Portable Zero Pack to my 817nd.? The two screws on either side are so tight I can only barely loosen one of them.? The other three are way to tight and I don't want to damage the Phillips head screw.? Does anyone know of a method of loosening screws that are so tight?? Appreciate any and all advice.

73

Rich KB3OMJ


Virus-free.