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Re: Antenna port


 

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The relay draws 30 mA/hr and on full "QRO Operation" at 5 watts output the radio draws 2 A/hr when TX, markedly less on RX (250-450 mA/hr) per published Mfg specs. See:?

It's on the order of a couple percent of increase in power consumption, which my back of envelope calculations put at about one minute of lost operating time for every hour of battery life. If a battery pack gives you 4 hours of operating time off the front panel BNC antenna connection then by choosing to use the rear SO-239 your operating time dropped to 3 hours 55 minutes, is that really 'significant'?

I guess, maybe, to some, but the average user, since we started using the latest battery technologies and not relied on a tray of AA NIMH cells in the internal battery tray to power the radio can easily carry an external battery that can provide more than enough battery life to satisfy their use requirements/desires and afford them the luxury of using the antenna connection that best suits their feedline connector without worrying about the power consumed by the antenna relay.

(I imagine the early FT-817 owners, 'back in the day' worked very hard to squeeze maximum use out of the rechargeable batteries that the radio used, much like the scene in the HBO series "From the Earth to the Moon" where NASA engineers were trying to find a way to stretch the useful life of the battery on a struggling Apollo 13 mission - see:??- but we live in a different world full of windcamp and external LiFePO4 batteries today...)

It is a difference, I'm glad it's documented, and while I personally don't find it 'significant', I will acknowledge that some hold a different opinion.

My $0.02,

Ken, N2VIP

On Apr 19, 2025, at 22:50, Eric van de Weyer <groups.io@...> wrote:

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Hi Paul,

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Yes, the relay is activated for the rear (SO239) socket and deactivated for the front (BNC) socket.

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From memory the current drain of the relay is in the region of 30 mA so this can affect the runtime available on a charge when using the rear socket.

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If you¡¯re running off external power, of course, the drain of the relay is insignificant but when running on the internal battery it can become a significant extra drain, shortening the battery life and hence operating time.

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73¡­.Eric VK2VE.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ken N2VIP
Sent: Sunday, 20 April 2025 04:20
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ft817] Antenna port

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Paul,

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There is a difference, but it is a tiny difference, not really worth mentioning - depending on the antenna port you select a relay inside the radio will either be energized or not. It consumes a trivial amount of energy (in my opinion), but it is a difference.

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I'll leave it for another list member to specify which antenna port increases power consumption - I'm too lazy to look it up, and I don't want to say the wrong thing...

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And as was noted already, be sure and specify to the radio which antenna connection you are using.

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Good luck,

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Ken, N2VIP



On Apr 19, 2025, at 12:37, C. Paul Patsis via groups.io <cpaulpatsis@...> wrote:

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Does it matter which antenna port you use for VHF/UHF versus HF. In other words (assuming the proper connector) can you use the rear HF Connector for VHF??


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