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Hi Mike and Peter

I have been following along here with this discussion, and just noticed that Peter is and I

would presume have a UK version of the ND. While Mike has a US version of the ND.

Might that be a possible cause of differences between what is seen and allowed to

be used to modify the rigs? Just a possible cause of the difference.

Good discussion though, I did buy my first 817 in 2003 if I remember right at my

age it is possible I am off a year or two. I sold it in the middle of the time Ten Tec

came out with the 516 Argonaut so I sold it and got one. During use I found that

the 516 was not happy with battery power when it dipped below about 11 Volts which

didn't take to long. Requiring the use of a AC PS and hampered my portable activities.

So sold the 516 and purchased another 817 in about 2006 which was again an original

model. Had it every since and is my only working ham rig. Love it, and I do have a 40W

HFPacker amp model IV that I can boost the power out on the HF bands but don't use it

very much. On digital modes I find that 2 1/2 watts or 5 watts is usually enough.

Cheers guys.

Marty kd8bj