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I’m in need of some new sanding belts for my WB, and would appreciate current thinking on where to order best quality online for a custom belt lengths. ?Suggestions appreciated. ?
David Best
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I have been getting my 17x54 belts from 2sand. They have been quality.? Recently found a better price at Maverick Abrasives. Their belts appear to be fine. Thanks for the inquiry so we can all benefit from choices.
Bob
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I don't have a wide belt but do use Uneeda for custom belts for my Kundig Uniq edge sander.? Before my first purchase the Uneeda sales rep (Tom Espisito) provided suggestions of paper types based on my needs and had a few belts fabricated and sent to me to try out for free.? I have been quite happy with the performance and life (have never broken one of their belts) so I have stuck with them ever since.
Steve
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I’ve been getting mine from Maverick as well and have been satisfied. Over the last couple years I’ve noticed more online ordering options for sanding belts and I’ve used several taking advantage of their discount codes. The belts have always been fine; it’s a commodity product.
For my edge sander I experimented with a metal sanding grade belt instead of wood- it’s a bit coarser but does last longer.
Lloyd
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I use Industrial Abrasives in Reading, PA. I can drive there.
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I have a Powermatic 1632 WBS. ?I use belts from Mirka and I am very happy with the quality and life of the belts. ?Your local Mirka source is Barbo Machinery out on Airport Way east of PDX. ?When I was at their location picking up some parts, they told me they are a Mirka supplier for my future needs. ? ?I am a relative recent move to Oregon. ?Before I moved, I purchased quite a few belts from my old supplier as I did not know about Barbo then. ?They had to place the order with Mirka and there was some lead time for the fabrication and shipment. ?It was nothing like waiting for items from Felder that have to be shipped from Austria. ?At the time I purchased my belts, the cost was competitive with other sources.
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Ted Earnhardt
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Wow, 3pack for $60 at Maverick. Last Nov I paid $50 to $55 each (60 grit being more) for 17x54 from Klingspore Woodworking Shop.
I had some old belts fail at the joint. Does anyone know the shelf life on these?
Has anyone used a belt cleaner on these? I have done it once but it was scary. I am pretty sure it is not recommended.
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On Feb 14, 2025, at 7:27?AM, robert andre via groups.io <ehf222@...> wrote: ?
I have been getting my 17x54 belts from 2sand. They have been quality.? Recently found a better price at Maverick Abrasives. Their belts appear to be fine. Thanks for the inquiry so we can all benefit from choices.
Bob
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David:
I think I have 2 new?extra belts for my North State (Renzetti),?if you are interested… Klingspor; though it may cost more to get them to you than they’re worth. Probable replacement is the?SCM DMC SD 10.
By the way, I’m also planning to get the Powermatic 2244, and would appreciate any thoughts you, or the group has.
Thanks.
On Friday, February 14, 2025, 00:11, David P. Best via groups.io <dbestworkshop@...> wrote: I’m in need of some new sanding belts for my WB, and would appreciate current thinking on where to order best quality online for a custom belt lengths. ?Suggestions appreciated. ?
David Best
DBestWorkshop@...
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Mike D.
Annapolis, MD
AD951; K700S; N4400
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I'm chiming in recommending Klingspor with the caveat that they are set up to handle commercial accounts, not the retail online store as they present at their US website. They have historically offered free shipping on order pricepoints, last I checked was $300. Single belts were pricey custom-made if they weren't already a catalog sku, but any widebelts sold in sets of 10 they?used to discount substantially, sometimes in assortments.There are also a variety of abrasives and substrates to choose from, as well as belt joints, and if you call in the phone line it's often someone knowledgeable and helpful because the online options are not the whole story. I'd bet your joints would be fine with a #3 or #4 in most cases, I prefer reversible options, and most abrasives recommended will be either PS20 aluminum oxide on paper or PS21 aluminum zirconia on paper. Paper is my understanding the higher quality choice for higher quality machines specifically when tolerances get tight and grits get fine. My WBS specs to use ONLY paper media.
David:
I think I have 2 new?extra belts for my North State (Renzetti),?if you are interested… Klingspor; though it may cost more to get them to you than they’re worth. Probable replacement is the?SCM DMC SD 10.
By the way, I’m also planning to get the Powermatic 2244, and would appreciate any thoughts you, or the group has.
Thanks.
Mike D.
On Friday, February 14, 2025, 00:11, David P. Best via <dbestworkshop=[email protected]> wrote: I’m in need of some new sanding belts for my WB, and would appreciate current thinking on where to order best quality online for a custom belt lengths.? Suggestions appreciated. ?
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Mike D.
Annapolis, MD
AD951; K700S; N4400
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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Imran -?
I was told that shelf life on belt joints was either 2 or 5 years, more importantly to use the belts correctly and let them warm up and relieve their "set" from storage or lack of use before putting through?strenuous acts. Also some joints are not reversible, and all suffer if you try to make a widebelt do something it's not designed to do, like overload them. I'm still using old inventory belts sometimes 10+ years old, and get full use of them, or they explode in failure prematurely, knowing, hey, they're old, I'm pressing my luck. At least they chop into hand sheet paper for secondary use.
On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 10:16?AM imranindiana via <imranindiana= [email protected]> wrote: Wow, 3pack for $60 at Maverick. Last Nov I paid $50 to $55 each (60 grit being more) for 17x54 from Klingspore Woodworking Shop.
I had some old belts fail at the joint. Does anyone know the shelf life on these?
Has anyone used a belt cleaner on these? I have done it once but it was scary. I am pretty sure it is not recommended. ?
I have been getting my 17x54 belts from 2sand. They have been quality.? Recently found a better price at Maverick Abrasives. Their belts appear to be fine. Thanks for the inquiry so we can all benefit from choices.
Bob
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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Hi David:
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I have a WB on order and the dealer says Awuko is a very high-quality German engineered and manufactured sanding belt. I'll know for sure in June when the sander arrives but in case you want to check them out, here's the link.
https://awuko-sandpaper.com/
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Kerry Smith
Gotham Woodworks
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Thanks Brett. You are always a great source of information.
Any advice on belt cleaning?
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On Feb 14, 2025, at 12:36?PM, Brett Wissel via groups.io <Brettwissel@...> wrote: ? Imran -?
I was told that shelf life on belt joints was either 2 or 5 years, more importantly to use the belts correctly and let them warm up and relieve their "set" from storage or lack of use before putting through?strenuous acts. Also some joints are not reversible, and all suffer if you try to make a widebelt do something it's not designed to do, like overload them. I'm still using old inventory belts sometimes 10+ years old, and get full use of them, or they explode in failure prematurely, knowing, hey, they're old, I'm pressing my luck. At least they chop into hand sheet paper for secondary use. On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 10:16?AM imranindiana via <imranindiana= [email protected]> wrote: Wow, 3pack for $60 at Maverick. Last Nov I paid $50 to $55 each (60 grit being more) for 17x54 from Klingspore Woodworking Shop.
I had some old belts fail at the joint. Does anyone know the shelf life on these?
Has anyone used a belt cleaner on these? I have done it once but it was scary. I am pretty sure it is not recommended. ?
I have been getting my 17x54 belts from 2sand. They have been quality.? Recently found a better price at Maverick Abrasives. Their belts appear to be fine. Thanks for the inquiry so we can all benefit from choices.
Bob
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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?Kerry, ? What WB did you order? Thanks Dave
Hi David:
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I have a WB on order and the dealer says Awuko is a very high-quality German engineered and manufactured sanding belt. I'll know for sure in June when the sander arrives but in case you want to check them out, here's the link.
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Kerry Smith
Gotham Woodworks
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I ordered a Kundig Master (53" 3-head). It's replacing a used Biesse that I recently sold. I'm relocating from CT to NC so I'm selling off most of my machines and replacing with new equipment. In my twisted logic I convinced myself that eliminating the cost of the move would justify buying new and having it delivered to my new shop. Hahaha, the lies we tell ourselves...
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Kerry Smith
Gotham Woodworks
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Kerry,
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I too have the Awuko sandpaper for my Kundig Uniq and it is good (much smaller belts of course).
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David, I use Maverick belts on my Casadei wide belt.? They so far have been great.? Understanding how to use a wide belt and the depth of cut based on the grit is a whole other thing to get used to.? I call myself lucky having learned that lesson years ago when working for a custom door company.? We had a new 3 head machine delivered and we were "trained" on the machine.? The owner immediately burned and shredded a belt because the "training" left out that important lesson.
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Anyway, one other benefit to the Maverick belts is how fast they were shipped.
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Imran,? For belt cleaning, if you use the machine a lot, you can actually wash the belts (or buy an expensive machine to do it).? I chose these:
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On sale as well!? I just run it through like a piece of wood.
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PK
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Thanks PK. Did not know the cleaning pads existed for WB sanders. I used a stick and did not feel safe.
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On Feb 14, 2025, at 8:12?PM, PK via groups.io <pk@...> wrote: ? Kerry,
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I too have the Awuko sandpaper for my Kundig Uniq and it is good (much smaller belts of course).
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David, I use Maverick belts on my Casadei wide belt.? They so far have been great.? Understanding how to use a wide belt and the depth of cut based on the grit is a whole other thing to get used to.? I call myself lucky having learned that lesson years ago when working for a custom door company.? We had a new 3 head machine delivered and we were "trained" on the machine.? The owner immediately burned and shredded a belt because the "training" left out that important lesson.
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Anyway, one other benefit to the Maverick belts is how fast they were shipped.
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Imran,? For belt cleaning, if you use the machine a lot, you can actually wash the belts (or buy an expensive machine to do it).? I chose these:
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On sale as well!? I just run it through like a piece of wood.
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PK
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I use Klingspore cloth belts in my Kundig. Initially Kundig recommended paper belts from another European mfg. I did not have good luck with these, broke several and finally went to cloth. I sand solid wood. If veneer sanding paper might be a better consideration. One advantage of cloth is they can be cleaned at the car wash. On a multi head machine best to stick with one type belt from the same mfg.
Quite a bit of setup is required to calibrate these machines properly for different belt thickness and grits.
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We have been very happy with VSM belts, as well as Mirka. Both cloth backed, zirconium abrasive. Lasts a long time without the steep jump in price to ceramic. We will take belts to the car wash on occasion if they load up from some soft wood.?
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Joe,
Your comment on cleaning belts at the car wash couldn't have come at a better time. Indeed, this topic hit just when I started looking for 37"x60" belts for my single head TimeSaver wide belt sander. I have been operating with the belts that came with the machine, purchased from another woodworker.
I have loaded up a couple of belts with material from soft and/or wet woods. I ran some damp redwood through it and it loaded up an 80 grit belt. I attempted to clean it with the gum block with limited success.
I ordered a couple of the Grizzly belt cleaners recommended by Paul Kelly of PK Wood Working. We'll see if I have the same experience as Paul. I am still getting used to using the machine, and have zero experience with the different types of belts.
Back to the car wash cleaning of the belts. Am I correct in assuming the cloth belts hold up well to pressure washer application if the water through the wand? Is the soap needed? I have a couple of pressure washers with various tips that allow for different spray patterns. I can add car wash soap too if that is needed. I guess the real question is; How aggressive can one get when washing these belts?
Thanks for everyone's comments on this thread. Very informative.
Alex B.
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On 02/15/2025 5:07 AM PST Joe Calhoon via groups.io <joecalhoon@...> wrote:
I use Klingspore cloth belts in my Kundig. Initially Kundig recommended paper belts from another European mfg. I did not have good luck with these, broke several and finally went to cloth. I sand solid wood. If veneer sanding paper might be a better consideration. One advantage of cloth is they can be cleaned at the car wash. On a multi head machine best to stick with one type belt from the same mfg.
Quite a bit of setup is required to calibrate these machines properly for different belt thickness and grits.
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Hi Alex,
I use soap at the car wash but I think it’s the hot water that does the trick. Just be careful not to crease the belts. I hang them on the floor mat clips and do it in thirds so not to crease them.
If you remember I have my belts on rounded hangers in the shop. I let them dry on that. Also hang new belts on those for a day before putting them in the machine.
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David P. Best
Mike
imran
Kerryj_smith
PK
Jason Holtz