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How difficult is installation of the sliding table on a K700S?
I will have Felder commission my new saw, which will have the 3200 mm table. The salesperson says this includes installing the sliding table. The user manual, however, recommends getting two or three helpers to assist with installation of the sliding table. That seems like a disconnect, since it is unlikely that Felder will send three guys to set up my saw.
I’m just curious what other people have experienced.
Thanks!
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John Hinman
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Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
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I didn’t have my unit commissioned but yes it took 3 of us to install the slider.? Steve Lyde
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On Feb 15, 2022, at 9:00 AM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?How difficult is installation of the sliding table on a K700S?
I will have Felder commission my new saw, which will have the 3200 mm table. The salesperson says this includes installing the sliding table. The user manual, however, recommends getting two or three helpers to assist with installation of the sliding table. That seems like a disconnect, since it is unlikely that Felder will send three guys to set up my saw.
I’m just curious what other people have experienced.
Thanks!
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John Hinman
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Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
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I did it with 2 helpers, both as clueless as me. ?
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On Feb 15, 2022, at 07:00, John Hinman <Jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?How difficult is installation of the sliding table on a K700S?
I will have Felder commission my new saw, which will have the 3200 mm table. The salesperson says this includes installing the sliding table. The user manual, however, recommends getting two or three helpers to assist with installation of the sliding table. That seems like a disconnect, since it is unlikely that Felder will send three guys to set up my saw.
I’m just curious what other people have experienced.
Thanks!
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John Hinman
Boise ID
Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
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Mark Foster
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I was able to do it myself on the k940, use 2 saw horses leveled to where it could be slid on.?
The k700 was done with one tech and me guiding it per his command.
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On Feb 15, 2022, at 10:05 AM, Mark Foster <mfsta2lt@...> wrote:
? I did it with 2 helpers, both as clueless as me. ? On Feb 15, 2022, at 07:00, John Hinman <Jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?How difficult is installation of the sliding table on a K700S?
I will have Felder commission my new saw, which will have the 3200 mm table. The salesperson says this includes installing the sliding table. The user manual, however, recommends getting two or three helpers to assist with installation of the sliding table. That seems like a disconnect, since it is unlikely that Felder will send three guys to set up my saw.
I’m just curious what other people have experienced.
Thanks!
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John Hinman
Boise ID
Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
-- Mark Foster
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If you do it yourself, get a Harbor Freight lift cart Dave Davies
I was able to do it myself on the k940, use 2 saw horses leveled to where it could be slid on.?
The k700 was done with one tech and me guiding it per his command. On Feb 15, 2022, at 10:05 AM, Mark Foster <mfsta2lt@...> wrote:
?I did it with 2 helpers, both as clueless as me. ? ?How difficult is installation of the sliding table on a K700S?
I will have Felder commission my new saw, which will have the 3200 mm table. The salesperson says this includes installing the sliding table. The user manual, however, recommends getting two or three helpers to assist with installation of the sliding table. That seems like a disconnect, since it is unlikely that Felder will send three guys to set up my saw.
I’m just curious what other people have experienced.
Thanks!
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John Hinman
Boise ID
Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
-- Mark Foster
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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I have installed the 3200mm slider by my self. I used a ceiling winch to lift back end and handled the front (threading into chassis bolts). It is very doable by 2, if you have a hydraulic lift table or as Mark mentioned saw horses that can be adjusted to appropriate height.
YMMV,
Imran
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On Feb 15, 2022, at 10:00 AM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote: ?How difficult is installation of the sliding table on a K700S?
I will have Felder commission my new saw, which will have the 3200 mm table. The salesperson says this includes installing the sliding table. The user manual, however, recommends getting two or three helpers to assist with installation of the sliding table. That seems like a disconnect, since it is unlikely that Felder will send three guys to set up my saw.
I’m just curious what other people have experienced.
Thanks!
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John Hinman
Boise ID
Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
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Not that I’ve done it100 times put slider on saw horse and slide the machine in to it with pallet Jack. On person operation. Mac,,, Designing and building for 50 years
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On Feb 15, 2022, at 9:31 AM, David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:
? If you do it yourself, get a Harbor Freight lift cart Dave Davies I was able to do it myself on the k940, use 2 saw horses leveled to where it could be slid on.?
The k700 was done with one tech and me guiding it per his command. On Feb 15, 2022, at 10:05 AM, Mark Foster <mfsta2lt@...> wrote:
?I did it with 2 helpers, both as clueless as me. ? ?How difficult is installation of the sliding table on a K700S?
I will have Felder commission my new saw, which will have the 3200 mm table. The salesperson says this includes installing the sliding table. The user manual, however, recommends getting two or three helpers to assist with installation of the sliding table. That seems like a disconnect, since it is unlikely that Felder will send three guys to set up my saw.
I’m just curious what other people have experienced.
Thanks!
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John Hinman
Boise ID
Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
-- Mark Foster
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Sounds like a variety of experiences. I’ll ask the Felder service planning people for clarification. I don’t want to be building sawhorses and/or running around town trying to rent a hoist or pallet jack while the technician is cooling his heels.
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John Hinman
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Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
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You will need sawhorses or something to put it on at the height of the bolts even with 2-3 people, it needs to be threaded onto the bolts?
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On Feb 15, 2022, at 12:40 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?Sounds like a variety of experiences. I’ll ask the Felder service planning people for clarification. I don’t want to be building sawhorses and/or running around town trying to rent a hoist or pallet jack while the technician is cooling his heels.
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John Hinman
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Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
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I’ve done it myself twice. Once like Mac said and the next with the Fat 300. It can be done… Bill Belanger
Not that I’ve done it100 times put slider on saw horse and slide the machine in to it with pallet Jack. On person operation. Mac,,, Designing and building for 50 years ? If you do it yourself, get a Harbor Freight lift cart Dave Davies I was able to do it myself on the k940, use 2 saw horses leveled to where it could be slid on.?
The k700 was done with one tech and me guiding it per his command. On Feb 15, 2022, at 10:05 AM, Mark Foster <mfsta2lt@...> wrote:
?I did it with 2 helpers, both as clueless as me. ? ?How difficult is installation of the sliding table on a K700S?
I will have Felder commission my new saw, which will have the 3200 mm table. The salesperson says this includes installing the sliding table. The user manual, however, recommends getting two or three helpers to assist with installation of the sliding table. That seems like a disconnect, since it is unlikely that Felder will send three guys to set up my saw.
I’m just curious what other people have experienced.
Thanks!
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John Hinman
Boise ID
Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
-- Mark Foster
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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If you have an adjustable height table like a Fat 500 or Barth bench, you can do it with one person. ?Details of how I do it including videos are here:
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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How difficult is installation of the sliding table on a K700S?
I will have Felder commission my new saw, which will have the 3200 mm table. The salesperson says this includes installing the sliding table. The user manual, however, recommends getting two or three helpers to assist with installation of the sliding table. That seems like a disconnect, since it is unlikely that Felder will send three guys to set up my saw.
I’m just curious what other people have experienced.
Thanks!
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John Hinman
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Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
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? I did it by myself. Roller supports and floor dolly. ?But I’m a strong dude too! ?
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On Feb 15, 2022, at 8:00 AM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?How difficult is installation of the sliding table on a K700S?
I will have Felder commission my new saw, which will have the 3200 mm table. The salesperson says this includes installing the sliding table. The user manual, however, recommends getting two or three helpers to assist with installation of the sliding table. That seems like a disconnect, since it is unlikely that Felder will send three guys to set up my saw.
I’m just curious what other people have experienced.
Thanks!
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John Hinman
Boise ID
Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
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Felder says usually the tech and the owner can get it done. I have started playing phone tag with one of the techs, so we can talk it through before he gets here.
I just want the process to go smoothly. I am not a strong dude.
My saw was put on a truck in Delaware this afternoon, so it is getting closer!
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John Hinman
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Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
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John , best thing you can do is have a clean organized space to work, electrical and dust collection ready and material for testing and make darn sure machine is clean and all parts are clean. Mac,,, Designing and building for 50 years
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On Feb 15, 2022, at 6:06 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?Felder says usually the tech and the owner can get it done. I have started playing phone tag with one of the techs, so we can talk it through before he gets here.
I just want the process to go smoothly. I am not a strong dude.
My saw was put on a truck in Delaware this afternoon, so it is getting closer!
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John Hinman
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Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
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John, the good news is is that with commissioning you don’t have to assemble the saw. You bought assembly with the commissioning. I misunderstood the guidance for commissioning and assembled mine by myself with a 2800 mm slider. Not too difficult with some blocking and an old B&D workmate. I was later told assembly was not necessary. The tech was planning on a helper for assembly (I’m in Denver and they have a sales person local) until I told him it was assembled. If you do assemble it don’t do any leveling of the table. They don’t want you messing with the factory settings.
Steve Krasovich
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Thanks Mac and Steve.
My shop is pretty open, and I will be ready for the fellow. I want to avoid mid-understandings so am asking the dumb questions now instead of later.
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John Hinman
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Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
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Hi John,
I am a new K700S owner myself and understand where you are. How to get from truck to house, slider onto machine, what blades to use all the Felder 101 stuff.? A lift cart is your best bet or adjustable roller stands. The slider has T slot grooves for bolt heads and you will need the slider parallel to these heads during the install sort of difficult to do for two guys. If you have the rail on/off switch the wire exits midway from the rail and drops into the machine you need to ensure that doesn't catch on anything too. Having a mechanical lift cart or roller you can go as slowly as you want mounting the slider rail.
Other 101 items - I bought leveling feet from Amazon and in my shop I have center drains so a good pitch to the floor. When I installed the feet I left the bolt on all four, I should have removed the bolts from the far end of the feet that way when I needed to adjust my saw up I would not have to account for the bolt height + leveling height. Not a big deal.? I bought a Starrett precision level second hand and it is superior to any other method of leveling. I used a second level and in a few minutes had the machine perfect.
For your overarm dust collection - I went with the larger overarm you will need some zip ties or other method to secure the dust hose to the arm. I bought my hose from Felder which arrived in one long piece but the 120mm dust port (main) hose arrived in 1 meter sections instead of one long piece. Head scratcher there not sure what happened. A bracket that attaches the overarm to table did not line up during my install it was way off couldn't see the bolt holes. Felder guys tweaked that to fit but in turn my table dips on that side where they lowered it which I did not notice at the time. I will likely back that out and remove that bracket or drill some new holes.
Another tip - Use every feature of your saw while your tech is onsite. Move your outrigger fence, rip fence, blade height up/down, have all accessories mounted. Think of this as a final checkout not of their work but of your machine. Everything should be smooth and if you are like me new to sliders there is a lot more going on than unboxing a sawstop that is ready to run.
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Thank you, JBowen!
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John Hinman
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Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
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jbowen,
I had the same issue with that bracket on the overarm dust collection. Somewhere I had seen a video of someone installing the unit and his bracket did not line up either so he drilled new holes so I did the same. The bracket was the last thing I installed on the assembly and I was careful to not have any load on the already leveled side table.?
Steve
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Steve and Jay,
I am just curious about overhead saw assembly affecting the table leveling. One on K975 is much more substantial (and fixed ?) than the new ones I see that can be swung out of the way and it only attaches to the machine chassis. Sounds like the current design may also be attached to the sheet metal extension table.
Imran
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On Feb 16, 2022, at 10:30 AM, Steve Krasovich <skskras@...> wrote: ? jbowen,
I had the same issue with that bracket on the overarm dust collection. Somewhere I had seen a video of someone installing the unit and his bracket did not line up either so he drilled new holes so I did the same. The bracket was the last thing I installed on the assembly and I was careful to not have any load on the already leveled side table.?
Steve
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Mark Foster
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Bill Belanger
David P. Best