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Newest Splinter tongue design for non-DRO fences


 

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Pictures and some dimensions and I’d be happy to draw up the STL file. These things don’t take a huge amount of plastic, and the printers print overnight, so I would just print extras and toss them if/when they get used up. One screw loosened and they are in and out, takes 15 seconds if that.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Jan 17, 2022, at 1:39 AM, mikkel@... wrote:

Darn, but that's how it is. I'll have to roll up my sleves and do a one off for my saw then :-) I also do like the idea of a replaceable piece in the end of the part, so with normal tear and wear it can easily be replaced.
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Mikkel


 

That's really cool Brian. I'll make some measurements and share with you here :-)
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Mikkel


 

The short design is actually a plus. Just add a sacrificial block and the design works forever. Many thanks Brian.?

Fred

On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 2:15 PM Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
I spent a few days and printed some test parts to fit into the standard 72mm x 70mm fence extrusion. Did the final iteration today and it’s ready to go. I changed it to use a standard 90? cone point set screw (I machined a couple to 60? point here because that’s what I had on hand, but they aren’t readily available). I designed this with the threads in the model, so it prints the threads into the part, but most likely you will have to chase it with a 5/16-18 bottoming tap to clean up the threads. Mine seems to print the lower portion of the threads just fine, but the first turn or two is tight.

This design allows you to slide the tongue into the extrusion and just snug the set screw which wedges it into place, comes right back out with loosening the set screw. I don’t really want to get into the printing of these, so I’ve uploaded the file into the files section.?

A couple of notes, I set my slicer to do 1.8mm walls and then did 3mm top layer. The extra wall thickness makes it strong enough to use the screw to wedge it tight, and the extra thickness at the top will allow you to trim it to exactly the blade position and (hopefully) not go through into the internal support structure. I just did these in PLA as it prints fine and seems plenty strong. The “tongue” sticks out 1.625, so hopefully that’s pretty close to what most of the machines measure from the blade to the rip fence extrusion. Print it oriented with the face in the first picture down, hardest part is getting the damn support structure off the bottom once it’s done.

Oh, set screw is here:?
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Backside, hard to see, but it has four splits to allow it to wedge open


Slides right into the fence extrusion


Tighten the set screw and it locks it in place



Brian Lamb
blamb11@...





Brian Lamb
blamb11@...





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Fred Rossi
617.905.6497


 

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On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:15 PM, Fred Rossi <fred@...> wrote:

The short design is actually a plus. Just add a sacrificial block and the design works forever. Many thanks Brian.?

Fred
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On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 2:15 PM Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
I spent a few days and printed some test parts to fit into the standard 72mm x 70mm fence extrusion. Did the final iteration today and it’s ready to go. I changed it to use a standard 90? cone point set screw (I machined a couple to 60? point here because that’s what I had on hand, but they aren’t readily available). I designed this with the threads in the model, so it prints the threads into the part, but most likely you will have to chase it with a 5/16-18 bottoming tap to clean up the threads. Mine seems to print the lower portion of the threads just fine, but the first turn or two is tight.

This design allows you to slide the tongue into the extrusion and just snug the set screw which wedges it into place, comes right back out with loosening the set screw. I don’t really want to get into the printing of these, so I’ve uploaded the file into the files section.?

A couple of notes, I set my slicer to do 1.8mm walls and then did 3mm top layer. The extra wall thickness makes it strong enough to use the screw to wedge it tight, and the extra thickness at the top will allow you to trim it to exactly the blade position and (hopefully) not go through into the internal support structure. I just did these in PLA as it prints fine and seems plenty strong. The “tongue” sticks out 1.625, so hopefully that’s pretty close to what most of the machines measure from the blade to the rip fence extrusion. Print it oriented with the face in the first picture down, hardest part is getting the damn support structure off the bottom once it’s done.

Oh, set screw is here:?
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Backside, hard to see, but it has four splits to allow it to wedge open

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Slides right into the fence extrusion

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Tighten the set screw and it locks it in place

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Brian Lamb
blamb11@...





Brian Lamb
blamb11@...







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Hi Fred..? i love that design change!!!..may i ask? how the sacrfical block is attached to the plastic??? I may modify? mine? to your arrangement when i wear it out


 

Super simple. I cut a long piece of oak to mate the printed block, cut a few lengths to match the block width (1/8” round over bit for the inside match), double stick tape block and wood together, drilled the whole thing twice with a 13/64 bit, tapped the block with 1/4x18 tap, enlarged the wood holes and used 2 1/4x18 1 3/8” long screws to hold it all together.?

The wood was made about 1/4” too wide so I could run the whole assembly past the saw to create a zero clearance. I am going to make another ?for a 45deg cut zero clearance.?


Hope?this helps.?

Fred?


On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 3:35 PM G. Lane <lane247@...> wrote:
Hi Fred..? i love that design change!!!..may i ask? how the sacrfical block is attached to the plastic??? I may modify? mine? to your arrangement when i wear it out

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617.905.6497


 

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On Jan 22, 2022, at 3:08 PM, Fred Rossi <fred@...> wrote:

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Super simple. I cut a long piece of oak to mate the printed block, cut a few lengths to match the block width (1/8” round over bit for the inside match), double stick tape block and wood together, drilled the whole thing twice with a 13/64 bit, tapped the block with 1/4x18 tap, enlarged the wood holes and used 2 1/4x18 1 3/8” long screws to hold it all together.?

The wood was made about 1/4” too wide so I could run the whole assembly past the saw to create a zero clearance. I am going to make another ?for a 45deg cut zero clearance.?


Hope?this helps.?

Fred?


On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 3:35 PM G. Lane <lane247@...> wrote:
Hi Fred..? i love that design change!!!..may i ask? how the sacrfical block is attached to the plastic??? I may modify? mine? to your arrangement when i wear it out

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Fred Rossi
617.905.6497


 

Correction: The thread and screw are 1/4 x 20 not 1/4 x 18

On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 4:08 PM Fred Rossi <fred@...> wrote:
Super simple. I cut a long piece of oak to mate the printed block, cut a few lengths to match the block width (1/8” round over bit for the inside match), double stick tape block and wood together, drilled the whole thing twice with a 13/64 bit, tapped the block with 1/4x18 tap, enlarged the wood holes and used 2 1/4x18 1 3/8” long screws to hold it all together.?

The wood was made about 1/4” too wide so I could run the whole assembly past the saw to create a zero clearance. I am going to make another ?for a 45deg cut zero clearance.?


Hope?this helps.?

Fred?


On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 3:35 PM G. Lane <lane247@...> wrote:
Hi Fred..? i love that design change!!!..may i ask? how the sacrfical block is attached to the plastic??? I may modify? mine? to your arrangement when i wear it out

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Fred Rossi
617.905.6497



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Fred Rossi
617.905.6497


 

Just wanted to confirm that Bill's Blue sacrificial crosscut fence end does indeed work perfectly on my kappa 400 x-motion analog (for now) crosscut fence!

See attached pics!? I did need to adjust the supports for the outrigger cart so that the "splitter tongue" would not drag on the ground if left on the outrigger.

PK

PK
PKwoodworking


 

I modified mine using scrap BB plywood? (as you can see some finish was left on it) today, the 1/2" plywood can be easily replaced, it is screwed into the vertical 3/4" plywood.

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James


On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 11:50 PM PK <pk@...> wrote:
Just wanted to confirm that Bill's Blue sacrificial crosscut fence end does indeed work perfectly on my kappa 400 x-motion analog (for now) crosscut fence!

See attached pics!? I did need to adjust the supports for the outrigger cart so that the "splitter tongue" would not drag on the ground if left on the outrigger.

PK

PK
PKwoodworking


 
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James, I like your two piece design. Inevitably, the ZCI will need to be replaced (I’ve needed to shim mine several times over the course of about 18 months).

Fred, I am interested how you go with your design. My first started out similar, and I found that it was too high to permit the blade shroud to be low, which meant that the blade remained high (if you want to use the shroud). Do you have a way around this?

Regards from Perth

Derek