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Has anyone?installed or does a successful modification?exist for quick line-ups of the initial cut on rough stock like laser lines on a high-end rip saw? I'm envisioning it being mounted to an overhead guard mount or even from an isolated ceiling mount. Just didn't know if anyone had a practical and/or reliably accurate one, I'm still aggravated by using my feeler block for clearance and fumbling the stock around, seems like it could be better.
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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i mounted a cheap laser on ceiling but it did need adjustment. shop has been rearranged and i have not moved the laser. since i use clamps i pulled back the slider after straight line ripping the first board and then align laser to the cut edge. it is definitely not ideal.
there are plans on net for better ceiling mounts that were shared here.
imran?
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On Nov 21, 2020, at 11:25 AM, Brett Wissel <Brettwissel@...> wrote: ? Has anyone?installed or does a successful modification?exist for quick line-ups of the initial cut on rough stock like laser lines on a high-end rip saw? I'm envisioning it being mounted to an overhead guard mount or even from an isolated ceiling mount. Just didn't know if anyone had a practical and/or reliably accurate one, I'm still aggravated by using my feeler block for clearance and fumbling the stock around, seems like it could be better.
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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I’d probably hack something together using something like this using a AC wall wart style power supply for the 7-10VDC:
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I used a Bosch line laser years ago and made a mount for my tile saw, it worked pretty well but the batteries didn’t hold up for very long.
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Has anyone?installed or does a successful modification?exist for quick line-ups of the initial cut on rough stock like laser lines on a high-end rip saw? I'm envisioning it being mounted to an overhead guard mount or even from an isolated ceiling mount. Just didn't know if anyone had a practical and/or reliably accurate one, I'm still aggravated by using my feeler block for clearance and fumbling the stock around, seems like it could be better.
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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Brett,
i am sure you know Felder makes one for bandsaws. bit salty for me as a hobby user. I do not know if anyone has tried mounting it for saw application.
imran
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On Nov 21, 2020, at 11:25 AM, Brett Wissel <Brettwissel@...> wrote: ? Has anyone?installed or does a successful modification?exist for quick line-ups of the initial cut on rough stock like laser lines on a high-end rip saw? I'm envisioning it being mounted to an overhead guard mount or even from an isolated ceiling mount. Just didn't know if anyone had a practical and/or reliably accurate one, I'm still aggravated by using my feeler block for clearance and fumbling the stock around, seems like it could be better.
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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I've alway thought having one would make straight line ripping rough lumber easier. But really hasn't bothered me enough to break down and make one.
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I haven’t but i think it would be great. ??
On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 12:56 PM imranindiana via <imranindiana= [email protected]> wrote: Brett,
i am sure you know Felder makes one for bandsaws. bit salty for me as a hobby user. I do not know if anyone has tried mounting it for saw application.
imran ? Has anyone?installed or does a successful modification?exist for quick line-ups of the initial cut on rough stock like laser lines on a high-end rip saw? I'm envisioning it being mounted to an overhead guard mount or even from an isolated ceiling mount. Just didn't know if anyone had a practical and/or reliably accurate one, I'm still aggravated by using my feeler block for clearance and fumbling the stock around, seems like it could be better.
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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I have a cut block on my fence so I know we’re the lead edge cut will be and I know where that is on the handle side be just look and feel clamp and cut. If I need to cut to a line I put a light long straight edge against to saw tips and line up with the line and clamp and cut. Sorry can’t help with the laser thingy. Maybe Carter can advise. Mac,,? Designing and building for 50 years
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? Brett,
i am sure you know Felder makes one for bandsaws. bit salty for me as a hobby user. I do not know if anyone has tried mounting it for saw application.
imran
On Nov 21, 2020, at 11:25 AM, Brett Wissel <Brettwissel@...> wrote:
? Has anyone?installed or does a successful modification?exist for quick line-ups of the initial cut on rough stock like laser lines on a high-end rip saw? I'm envisioning it being mounted to an overhead guard mount or even from an isolated ceiling mount. Just didn't know if anyone had a practical and/or reliably accurate one, I'm still aggravated by using my feeler block for clearance and fumbling the stock around, seems like it could be better.
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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Hi guys
I made a steel bracket above my slider and mounted a Leica builders laser that has a magnetic base. I placed a two meter straight edge against the blade of the saw and quite easily adjusted the laser line to the straight edge. The beam fades at the ends so I centered the beam at the infeed edge of the saw to maximize the projection onto the material. The higher you go above your machine the thicker your line will be.? It workes quite well as a reference.
Regards
On Sun, 22 Nov 2020, 3:34 pm Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression, < airtightclamps@...> wrote: I have a cut block on my fence so I know we’re the lead edge cut will be and I know where that is on the handle side be just look and feel clamp and cut. If I need to cut to a line I put a light long straight edge against to saw tips and line up with the line and clamp and cut. Sorry can’t help with the laser thingy. Maybe Carter can advise. Mac,,? Designing and building for 50 years On Nov 21, 2020, at 11:56 AM, imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:
? Brett,
i am sure you know Felder makes one for bandsaws. bit salty for me as a hobby user. I do not know if anyone has tried mounting it for saw application.
imran ? Has anyone?installed or does a successful modification?exist for quick line-ups of the initial cut on rough stock like laser lines on a high-end rip saw? I'm envisioning it being mounted to an overhead guard mount or even from an isolated ceiling mount. Just didn't know if anyone had a practical and/or reliably accurate one, I'm still aggravated by using my feeler block for clearance and fumbling the stock around, seems like it could be better.
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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I tried to rig up a laser on my Panhans. I bought?a relatively high power red laser on ebay, and was intending to mount it to the overarm guard support tube or the dust collection pipe about 7 feet from the saw table.The line ended up being too wide, and not nearly bright enough in a very well lit shop. I also tried to use my broken laser level. once you tilt it too far it gets wonky. I gave up. I've had enough practice sighting down the edge of the slider that I can get remarkably close to a pencil line. It sure would be nice though. Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Hi Clinton:
Do you have any pics of your laser set-up? And what are the laser specs? I often hear the notion of lasers not being strong enough to see in good light, or being too wide to be useful. Your laser sounds quite good, in contrast.?
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On 22 Nov 2020, at 2:46 pm, clinton.freer Freer <clinton.freer@...> wrote:
? Hi guys
I made a steel bracket above my slider and mounted a Leica builders laser that has a magnetic base. I placed a two meter straight edge against the blade of the saw and quite easily adjusted the laser line to the straight edge. The beam fades at the ends so I centered the beam at the infeed edge of the saw to maximize the projection onto the material. The higher you go above your machine the thicker your line will be.? It workes quite well as a reference.
Regards On Sun, 22 Nov 2020, 3:34 pm Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression, < airtightclamps@...> wrote: I have a cut block on my fence so I know we’re the lead edge cut will be and I know where that is on the handle side be just look and feel clamp and cut. If I need to cut to a line I put a light long straight edge against to saw tips and line up with the line and clamp and cut. Sorry can’t help with the laser thingy. Maybe Carter can advise. Mac,,? Designing and building for 50 years On Nov 21, 2020, at 11:56 AM, imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:
? Brett,
i am sure you know Felder makes one for bandsaws. bit salty for me as a hobby user. I do not know if anyone has tried mounting it for saw application.
imran ? Has anyone?installed or does a successful modification?exist for quick line-ups of the initial cut on rough stock like laser lines on a high-end rip saw? I'm envisioning it being mounted to an overhead guard mount or even from an isolated ceiling mount. Just didn't know if anyone had a practical and/or reliably accurate one, I'm still aggravated by using my feeler block for clearance and fumbling the stock around, seems like it could be better.
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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I too was looking for a laser solution but like Jason i gave up and went back to my trusty gauge block when it matters, when it doesn’t I just eye ball it...
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On Nov 22, 2020, at 12:46 AM, David Luckensmeyer <dhluckens@...> wrote:
? Hi Clinton:
Do you have any pics of your laser set-up? And what are the laser specs? I often hear the notion of lasers not being strong enough to see in good light, or being too wide to be useful. Your laser sounds quite good, in contrast.? On 22 Nov 2020, at 2:46 pm, clinton.freer Freer <clinton.freer@...> wrote:
? Hi guys
I made a steel bracket above my slider and mounted a Leica builders laser that has a magnetic base. I placed a two meter straight edge against the blade of the saw and quite easily adjusted the laser line to the straight edge. The beam fades at the ends so I centered the beam at the infeed edge of the saw to maximize the projection onto the material. The higher you go above your machine the thicker your line will be.? It workes quite well as a reference.
Regards On Sun, 22 Nov 2020, 3:34 pm Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression, < airtightclamps@...> wrote: I have a cut block on my fence so I know we’re the lead edge cut will be and I know where that is on the handle side be just look and feel clamp and cut. If I need to cut to a line I put a light long straight edge against to saw tips and line up with the line and clamp and cut. Sorry can’t help with the laser thingy. Maybe Carter can advise. Mac,,? Designing and building for 50 years On Nov 21, 2020, at 11:56 AM, imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:
? Brett,
i am sure you know Felder makes one for bandsaws. bit salty for me as a hobby user. I do not know if anyone has tried mounting it for saw application.
imran ? Has anyone?installed or does a successful modification?exist for quick line-ups of the initial cut on rough stock like laser lines on a high-end rip saw? I'm envisioning it being mounted to an overhead guard mount or even from an isolated ceiling mount. Just didn't know if anyone had a practical and/or reliably accurate one, I'm still aggravated by using my feeler block for clearance and fumbling the stock around, seems like it could be better.
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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Regarding my research? and everyone's recommendations, it looks like building and rigging a dedicated laser line with a 90 degree beam is going to be possible and budgeted about $100.?
But, like Uncle Clint, it appears a package using a pre-made laser level unit may be much easier and more flexible. My current unit doesn't have a pendulum that will lock at angle, but I saw some new ones that have much better features.....I think with the flexibility and cost, this is the best solution. Plus I can still pull it off to hang a picture on the wall. I just ordered a cheap green laser unit rechargeable with USB and magnetic bracket that will arrive later this week - thanks for everyone's help!
I too was looking for a laser solution but like Jason i gave up and went back to my trusty gauge block when it matters, when it doesn’t I just eye ball it...
On Nov 22, 2020, at 12:46 AM, David Luckensmeyer <dhluckens@...> wrote:
?Hi Clinton:
Do you have any pics of your laser set-up? And what are the laser specs? I often hear the notion of lasers not being strong enough to see in good light, or being too wide to be useful. Your laser sounds quite good, in contrast.? ? Hi guys
I made a steel bracket above my slider and mounted a Leica builders laser that has a magnetic base. I placed a two meter straight edge against the blade of the saw and quite easily adjusted the laser line to the straight edge. The beam fades at the ends so I centered the beam at the infeed edge of the saw to maximize the projection onto the material. The higher you go above your machine the thicker your line will be.? It workes quite well as a reference.
Regards On Sun, 22 Nov 2020, 3:34 pm Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression, < airtightclamps@...> wrote: I have a cut block on my fence so I know we’re the lead edge cut will be and I know where that is on the handle side be just look and feel clamp and cut. If I need to cut to a line I put a light long straight edge against to saw tips and line up with the line and clamp and cut. Sorry can’t help with the laser thingy. Maybe Carter can advise. Mac,,? Designing and building for 50 years On Nov 21, 2020, at 11:56 AM, imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:
? Brett,
i am sure you know Felder makes one for bandsaws. bit salty for me as a hobby user. I do not know if anyone has tried mounting it for saw application.
imran ? Has anyone?installed or does a successful modification?exist for quick line-ups of the initial cut on rough stock like laser lines on a high-end rip saw? I'm envisioning it being mounted to an overhead guard mount or even from an isolated ceiling mount. Just didn't know if anyone had a practical and/or reliably accurate one, I'm still aggravated by using my feeler block for clearance and fumbling the stock around, seems like it could be better.
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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Thanks Brett - would you post a picture when you set it up?
Regarding my research? and everyone's recommendations, it looks like building and rigging a dedicated laser line with a 90 degree beam is going to be possible and budgeted about $100.?
But, like Uncle Clint, it appears a package using a pre-made laser level unit may be much easier and more flexible. My current unit doesn't have a pendulum that will lock at angle, but I saw some new ones that have much better features.....I think with the flexibility and cost, this is the best solution. Plus I can still pull it off to hang a picture on the wall. I just ordered a cheap green laser unit rechargeable with USB and magnetic bracket that will arrive later this week - thanks for everyone's help!
I too was looking for a laser solution but like Jason i gave up and went back to my trusty gauge block when it matters, when it doesn’t I just eye ball it...
On Nov 22, 2020, at 12:46 AM, David Luckensmeyer <dhluckens@...> wrote:
?Hi Clinton:
Do you have any pics of your laser set-up? And what are the laser specs? I often hear the notion of lasers not being strong enough to see in good light, or being too wide to be useful. Your laser sounds quite good, in contrast.? ? Hi guys
I made a steel bracket above my slider and mounted a Leica builders laser that has a magnetic base. I placed a two meter straight edge against the blade of the saw and quite easily adjusted the laser line to the straight edge. The beam fades at the ends so I centered the beam at the infeed edge of the saw to maximize the projection onto the material. The higher you go above your machine the thicker your line will be.? It workes quite well as a reference.
Regards On Sun, 22 Nov 2020, 3:34 pm Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression, < airtightclamps@...> wrote: I have a cut block on my fence so I know we’re the lead edge cut will be and I know where that is on the handle side be just look and feel clamp and cut. If I need to cut to a line I put a light long straight edge against to saw tips and line up with the line and clamp and cut. Sorry can’t help with the laser thingy. Maybe Carter can advise. Mac,,? Designing and building for 50 years On Nov 21, 2020, at 11:56 AM, imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:
? Brett,
i am sure you know Felder makes one for bandsaws. bit salty for me as a hobby user. I do not know if anyone has tried mounting it for saw application.
imran ? Has anyone?installed or does a successful modification?exist for quick line-ups of the initial cut on rough stock like laser lines on a high-end rip saw? I'm envisioning it being mounted to an overhead guard mount or even from an isolated ceiling mount. Just didn't know if anyone had a practical and/or reliably accurate one, I'm still aggravated by using my feeler block for clearance and fumbling the stock around, seems like it could be better.
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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Sure, it may take a week with the holiday, I won't leave you hanging!
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No need to do much hacking:
It includes power supply and a mount.
Ariel
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Will this laser produce a crisp line if mounted from a 10 ft ceiling? ? A difference of 6 feet from the saw.? Thanks,
Chris Perren 512-415-6951
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?No need to do much hacking:
It includes power supply and a mount.
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Hi Chris
The short answer is...no.
I purchased a similar laser to this one first because it was so cheap. It was good enough to establish the principle but not strong and the line thickened quickly.? Hence the Leica unit.
Ten foot ceilings.... Clearly the closer you mount the laser to the work the better your line will be.? High enough not to interfere with the operator or materials.
I brought my mount down to just over 7 feet.
No photos as this was in my previous shop.
Good morning Uncle Clint
On Mon, 23 Nov 2020, 7:18 am Chris Perren, < cperren@...> wrote: Will this laser produce a crisp line if mounted from a 10 ft ceiling? ? A difference of 6 feet from the saw.? Thanks,
Chris Perren 512-415-6951 ?No need to do much hacking:
It includes power supply and a mount.
Ariel
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Thanks Uncle Clint. ?I thought the cost may be too good to work for my needs. ?Any photo of your current setup with the Leica unit. ?I’m assuming the cost is much more for a quality laser. ?? Thanks,
Chris Perren 512-415-6951
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On Nov 22, 2020, at 2:36 PM, clinton.freer Freer <clinton.freer@...> wrote:
? Hi Chris
The short answer is...no.
I purchased a similar laser to this one first because it was so cheap. It was good enough to establish the principle but not strong and the line thickened quickly.? Hence the Leica unit.
Ten foot ceilings.... Clearly the closer you mount the laser to the work the better your line will be.? High enough not to interfere with the operator or materials.
I brought my mount down to just over 7 feet.
No photos as this was in my previous shop.
Good morning Uncle Clint
On Mon, 23 Nov 2020, 7:18 am Chris Perren, < cperren@...> wrote: Will this laser produce a crisp line if mounted from a 10 ft ceiling? ? A difference of 6 feet from the saw.? Thanks,
Chris Perren 512-415-6951 ?No need to do much hacking:
It includes power supply and a mount.
Ariel
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what Ariel posted, is essentially the package that i have but it is red laser and i paid about half. i believe Jason bought one from the same outfit and his was DOA. the mount has not proven out to be stable. not sure if it is the mount, seasonal movement in ceiling or the front bezel that rotates the laser line. i turned it on just now, likely after 2 yrs; yay, it still works.
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it is mounted 12’ above floor. the line is crisp 1/16” at 4’ and fuzzy 1/8” at 9’ but there is also, what you may call a double line when you get farther. width does not bother me as i align to the edge and i am only looking for a rough idea. i primarily wanted this to help save board width when needed and to get done in a single pass.
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it is hard to see when all lights are on. for straight line ripping, i did use it with lights on but i could also turn the lights above saw off and still have plenty of light to do that particular work. here are some pics.
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with light off above machine
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same with lights on
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On Nov 22, 2020, at 12:55 PM, ahazi <ariel.hazi@...> wrote:
No need to do much hacking:
It includes power supply and a mount.
Ariel
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That would work, just not sure how visible these Chinese lasers are if the shop is bright. Somebody will have to give it a try and see.
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No need to do much hacking:
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