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Hey FOG, after 2 weeks of using my new saw I decided the stock inserts were no bueno! I had a chunk of 24” x 8” x 2” wenge on the shelf so decided to make a run of zero clearance inserts for my saw.?
I have 13 blanks made up so far and installed one today to make sure the fit and finish was good before finishing the rest of them.?
I’m considering mass producing these inserts, is there any interest from fellow k700s owners (other applicable saws) to purchase these inserts??
Let me know below!?
 
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Hi Dan,
Looks good. ?What are you looking to get for them?
Thx,
Wade
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On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:47 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk <dgwoodco@...> wrote:
? Hey FOG, after 2 weeks of using my new saw I decided the stock inserts were no bueno! I had a chunk of 24” x 8” x 2” wenge on the shelf so decided to make a run of zero clearance inserts for my saw.?
I have 13 blanks made up so far and installed one today to make sure the fit and finish was good before finishing the rest of them.?
I’m considering mass producing these inserts, is there any interest from fellow k700s owners (other applicable saws) to purchase these inserts??
Let me know below!?
 
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After a week it sure seems like the stock insert leaves something to be desired.
I just wonder how well a wooden insert will hold up, particularly the part between the blade and the table. That may not matter much, as the offcuts I am losing are on the other side of the blade.
Ramon Valdez makes some zero clearance inserts for 500 series saws but they are thicker, probably to strengthen the left side. The thickness means there is a lot of milling on the bottom surface.
If you ran some of these, what would you charge?
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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I’ve seen Ramon’s inserts, they look great! I like what he does by routing out the bottom to allow for a thicker insert. However, I chose to go with a simpler approach for now.?
Here’s a few more pics (with one coat of butcher block oil.) I left the insert just shy of 1 5/8” wide, this leaves about a 1/16th gap from the sliding table but one can also trim the insert to width as desired of course. Doing it this way makes sense so that I wouldn’t have a thin piece of wood flapping in the breeze.?
If there’s a little demand, I’d consider making the next batch reinforced by doing a laminated glueup to build up the thickness on the bottom. Will have to see how these hood up in the mean time.?These are just under 3/8” or 9.5” ml thickness. I’m thinking around $30 a piece plus shipping would cover my material costs and shop labor.
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On Mar 11, 2022, at 7:57 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?After a week it sure seems like the stock insert leaves something to be desired.
I just wonder how well a wooden insert will hold up, particularly the part between the blade and the table. That may not matter much, as the offcuts I am losing are on the other side of the blade.
Ramon Valdez makes some zero clearance inserts for 500 series saws but they are thicker, probably to strengthen the left side. The thickness means there is a lot of milling on the bottom surface.
If you ran some of these, what would you charge?
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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When I had the k700 the first pic is how i did it.? The second is the k940 and you can see i just leave the left open, The only time its an issue is short thin strips drop in but the don’t go flying. If i was to do the k700 again I would just leave it open
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On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:12 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk <dgwoodco@...> wrote:
? I’ve seen Ramon’s inserts, they look great! I like what he does by routing out the bottom to allow for a thicker insert. However, I chose to go with a simpler approach for now.?
Here’s a few more pics (with one coat of butcher block oil.) I left the insert just shy of 1 5/8” wide, this leaves about a 1/16th gap from the sliding table but one can also trim the insert to width as desired of course. Doing it this way makes sense so that I wouldn’t have a thin piece of wood flapping in the breeze.?
If there’s a little demand, I’d consider making the next batch reinforced by doing a laminated glueup to build up the thickness on the bottom. Will have to see how these hood up in the mean time.?These are just under 3/8” or 9.5” ml thickness. I’m thinking around $30 a piece plus shipping would cover my material costs and shop labor.
On Mar 11, 2022, at 7:57 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?After a week it sure seems like the stock insert leaves something to be desired.
I just wonder how well a wooden insert will hold up, particularly the part between the blade and the table. That may not matter much, as the offcuts I am losing are on the other side of the blade.
Ramon Valdez makes some zero clearance inserts for 500 series saws but they are thicker, probably to strengthen the left side. The thickness means there is a lot of milling on the bottom surface.
If you ran some of these, what would you charge?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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I'd be interested. I have an older K700, though. Have the inserts stayed the same?
On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 5:12 PM Dan Gavrilyuk < dgwoodco@...> wrote: I’ve seen Ramon’s inserts, they look great! I like what he does by routing out the bottom to allow for a thicker insert. However, I chose to go with a simpler approach for now.?
Here’s a few more pics (with one coat of butcher block oil.) I left the insert just shy of 1 5/8” wide, this leaves about a 1/16th gap from the sliding table but one can also trim the insert to width as desired of course. Doing it this way makes sense so that I wouldn’t have a thin piece of wood flapping in the breeze.?
If there’s a little demand, I’d consider making the next batch reinforced by doing a laminated glueup to build up the thickness on the bottom. Will have to see how these hood up in the mean time.?These are just under 3/8” or 9.5” ml thickness. I’m thinking around $30 a piece plus shipping would cover my material costs and shop labor.
?After a week it sure seems like the stock insert leaves something to be desired.
I just wonder how well a wooden insert will hold up, particularly the part between the blade and the table. That may not matter much, as the offcuts I am losing are on the other side of the blade.
Ramon Valdez makes some zero clearance inserts for 500 series saws but they are thicker, probably to strengthen the left side. The thickness means there is a lot of milling on the bottom surface.
If you ran some of these, what would you charge?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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I'd be interested. I have an older K700, though. Have the inserts stayed the same? On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 5:12 PM Dan Gavrilyuk < dgwoodco@...> wrote: I’ve seen Ramon’s inserts, they look great! I like what he does by routing out the bottom to allow for a thicker insert. However, I chose to go with a simpler approach for now.?
Here’s a few more pics (with one coat of butcher block oil.) I left the insert just shy of 1 5/8” wide, this leaves about a 1/16th gap from the sliding table but one can also trim the insert to width as desired of course. Doing it this way makes sense so that I wouldn’t have a thin piece of wood flapping in the breeze.?
If there’s a little demand, I’d consider making the next batch reinforced by doing a laminated glueup to build up the thickness on the bottom. Will have to see how these hood up in the mean time.?These are just under 3/8” or 9.5” ml thickness. I’m thinking around $30 a piece plus shipping would cover my material costs and shop labor.
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?After a week it sure seems like the stock insert leaves something to be desired.
I just wonder how well a wooden insert will hold up, particularly the part between the blade and the table. That may not matter much, as the offcuts I am losing are on the other side of the blade.
Ramon Valdez makes some zero clearance inserts for 500 series saws but they are thicker, probably to strengthen the left side. The thickness means there is a lot of milling on the bottom surface.
If you ran some of these, what would you charge?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Mark did you laminate that strip to the edge and then cut the bevel? The way you did it on the new saw looks fine actually. Zero clearance is more important on the right side anyway so little pieces done get sucked in there or blow up in the process.? Those little height adjustment screws were a pita to adjust level with the top.. seems better to just make a piece the thickness of the recess and call it a day.?
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On Mar 11, 2022, at 9:04 PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
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On Mar 11, 2022, at 7:02 PM, Bob Wise < bob@...> wrote:
I'd be interested. I have an older K700, though. Have the inserts stayed the same? On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 5:12 PM Dan Gavrilyuk < dgwoodco@...> wrote: I’ve seen Ramon’s inserts, they look great! I like what he does by routing out the bottom to allow for a thicker insert. However, I chose to go with a simpler approach for now.?
Here’s a few more pics (with one coat of butcher block oil.) I left the insert just shy of 1 5/8” wide, this leaves about a 1/16th gap from the sliding table but one can also trim the insert to width as desired of course. Doing it this way makes sense so that I wouldn’t have a thin piece of wood flapping in the breeze.?
If there’s a little demand, I’d consider making the next batch reinforced by doing a laminated glueup to build up the thickness on the bottom. Will have to see how these hood up in the mean time.?These are just under 3/8” or 9.5” ml thickness. I’m thinking around $30 a piece plus shipping would cover my material costs and shop labor.
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?After a week it sure seems like the stock insert leaves something to be desired.
I just wonder how well a wooden insert will hold up, particularly the part between the blade and the table. That may not matter much, as the offcuts I am losing are on the other side of the blade.
Ramon Valdez makes some zero clearance inserts for 500 series saws but they are thicker, probably to strengthen the left side. The thickness means there is a lot of milling on the bottom surface.
If you ran some of these, what would you charge?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Dan, is there going to be a riving knife slot?
Wade
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On Mar 11, 2022, at 5:12 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk <dgwoodco@...> wrote:
? I’ve seen Ramon’s inserts, they look great! I like what he does by routing out the bottom to allow for a thicker insert. However, I chose to go with a simpler approach for now.?
Here’s a few more pics (with one coat of butcher block oil.) I left the insert just shy of 1 5/8” wide, this leaves about a 1/16th gap from the sliding table but one can also trim the insert to width as desired of course. Doing it this way makes sense so that I wouldn’t have a thin piece of wood flapping in the breeze.?
If there’s a little demand, I’d consider making the next batch reinforced by doing a laminated glueup to build up the thickness on the bottom. Will have to see how these hood up in the mean time.?These are just under 3/8” or 9.5” ml thickness. I’m thinking around $30 a piece plus shipping would cover my material costs and shop labor.
On Mar 11, 2022, at 7:57 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?After a week it sure seems like the stock insert leaves something to be desired.
I just wonder how well a wooden insert will hold up, particularly the part between the blade and the table. That may not matter much, as the offcuts I am losing are on the other side of the blade.
Ramon Valdez makes some zero clearance inserts for 500 series saws but they are thicker, probably to strengthen the left side. The thickness means there is a lot of milling on the bottom surface.
If you ran some of these, what would you charge?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Yes Wade I’m doing those next. This is just preliminary fitting and figuring it out.?
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On Mar 11, 2022, at 9:49 PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Dan, is there going to be a riving knife slot?
Wade On Mar 11, 2022, at 5:12 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk <dgwoodco@...> wrote:
? I’ve seen Ramon’s inserts, they look great! I like what he does by routing out the bottom to allow for a thicker insert. However, I chose to go with a simpler approach for now.?
Here’s a few more pics (with one coat of butcher block oil.) I left the insert just shy of 1 5/8” wide, this leaves about a 1/16th gap from the sliding table but one can also trim the insert to width as desired of course. Doing it this way makes sense so that I wouldn’t have a thin piece of wood flapping in the breeze.?
If there’s a little demand, I’d consider making the next batch reinforced by doing a laminated glueup to build up the thickness on the bottom. Will have to see how these hood up in the mean time.?These are just under 3/8” or 9.5” ml thickness. I’m thinking around $30 a piece plus shipping would cover my material costs and shop labor.
On Mar 11, 2022, at 7:57 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?After a week it sure seems like the stock insert leaves something to be desired.
I just wonder how well a wooden insert will hold up, particularly the part between the blade and the table. That may not matter much, as the offcuts I am losing are on the other side of the blade.
Ramon Valdez makes some zero clearance inserts for 500 series saws but they are thicker, probably to strengthen the left side. The thickness means there is a lot of milling on the bottom surface.
If you ran some of these, what would you charge?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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John Renzetti who is a founding member here sells very nice ZCI’s this series saw. His are made from Garolite.
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On Mar 11, 2022, at 18:49, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Dan, is there going to be a riving knife slot?
Wade On Mar 11, 2022, at 5:12 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk <dgwoodco@...> wrote:
? I’ve seen Ramon’s inserts, they look great! I like what he does by routing out the bottom to allow for a thicker insert. However, I chose to go with a simpler approach for now.?
Here’s a few more pics (with one coat of butcher block oil.) I left the insert just shy of 1 5/8” wide, this leaves about a 1/16th gap from the sliding table but one can also trim the insert to width as desired of course. Doing it this way makes sense so that I wouldn’t have a thin piece of wood flapping in the breeze.?
If there’s a little demand, I’d consider making the next batch reinforced by doing a laminated glueup to build up the thickness on the bottom. Will have to see how these hood up in the mean time.?These are just under 3/8” or 9.5” ml thickness. I’m thinking around $30 a piece plus shipping would cover my material costs and shop labor.
On Mar 11, 2022, at 7:57 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?After a week it sure seems like the stock insert leaves something to be desired.
I just wonder how well a wooden insert will hold up, particularly the part between the blade and the table. That may not matter much, as the offcuts I am losing are on the other side of the blade.
Ramon Valdez makes some zero clearance inserts for 500 series saws but they are thicker, probably to strengthen the left side. The thickness means there is a lot of milling on the bottom surface.
If you ran some of these, what would you charge?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Mark Foster
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Mark Foster,
Do you know where I can see those too?
Thx,
Wade
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On Mar 11, 2022, at 6:54 PM, Mark Foster <mfsta2lt@...> wrote:
? John Renzetti who is a founding member here sells very nice ZCI’s this series saw. His are made from Garolite.
Mark Foster? On Mar 11, 2022, at 18:49, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Dan, is there going to be a riving knife slot?
Wade On Mar 11, 2022, at 5:12 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk <dgwoodco@...> wrote:
? I’ve seen Ramon’s inserts, they look great! I like what he does by routing out the bottom to allow for a thicker insert. However, I chose to go with a simpler approach for now.?
Here’s a few more pics (with one coat of butcher block oil.) I left the insert just shy of 1 5/8” wide, this leaves about a 1/16th gap from the sliding table but one can also trim the insert to width as desired of course. Doing it this way makes sense so that I wouldn’t have a thin piece of wood flapping in the breeze.?
If there’s a little demand, I’d consider making the next batch reinforced by doing a laminated glueup to build up the thickness on the bottom. Will have to see how these hood up in the mean time.?These are just under 3/8” or 9.5” ml thickness. I’m thinking around $30 a piece plus shipping would cover my material costs and shop labor.
On Mar 11, 2022, at 7:57 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?After a week it sure seems like the stock insert leaves something to be desired.
I just wonder how well a wooden insert will hold up, particularly the part between the blade and the table. That may not matter much, as the offcuts I am losing are on the other side of the blade.
Ramon Valdez makes some zero clearance inserts for 500 series saws but they are thicker, probably to strengthen the left side. The thickness means there is a lot of milling on the bottom surface.
If you ran some of these, what would you charge?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
-- Mark Foster
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Lots of pics in this thread too. Having used my version, which is made of Garolite, I would agree with the others that the little beveled section underneath the slider is not very useful. After sometime, it broke loose. It's a pretty weak connection to the ZCI and I expect that's why the Felder plastic version omits this as well.?
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Dan, I did laminate a strip to the edge then cut the bevel using the F&F. It was pretty strong and not nearly as week as without it but i just wouldn’t bother with it. It also makes the blade change a small pia…?
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On Mar 11, 2022, at 9:42 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk <dgwoodco@...> wrote:
? Mark did you laminate that strip to the edge and then cut the bevel? The way you did it on the new saw looks fine actually. Zero clearance is more important on the right side anyway so little pieces done get sucked in there or blow up in the process.? Those little height adjustment screws were a pita to adjust level with the top.. seems better to just make a piece the thickness of the recess and call it a day.? On Mar 11, 2022, at 9:04 PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
? No.
On Mar 11, 2022, at 7:02 PM, Bob Wise < bob@...> wrote:
I'd be interested. I have an older K700, though. Have the inserts stayed the same? On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 5:12 PM Dan Gavrilyuk < dgwoodco@...> wrote: I’ve seen Ramon’s inserts, they look great! I like what he does by routing out the bottom to allow for a thicker insert. However, I chose to go with a simpler approach for now.?
Here’s a few more pics (with one coat of butcher block oil.) I left the insert just shy of 1 5/8” wide, this leaves about a 1/16th gap from the sliding table but one can also trim the insert to width as desired of course. Doing it this way makes sense so that I wouldn’t have a thin piece of wood flapping in the breeze.?
If there’s a little demand, I’d consider making the next batch reinforced by doing a laminated glueup to build up the thickness on the bottom. Will have to see how these hood up in the mean time.?These are just under 3/8” or 9.5” ml thickness. I’m thinking around $30 a piece plus shipping would cover my material costs and shop labor.
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?After a week it sure seems like the stock insert leaves something to be desired.
I just wonder how well a wooden insert will hold up, particularly the part between the blade and the table. That may not matter much, as the offcuts I am losing are on the other side of the blade.
Ramon Valdez makes some zero clearance inserts for 500 series saws but they are thicker, probably to strengthen the left side. The thickness means there is a lot of milling on the bottom surface.
If you ran some of these, what would you charge?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 6:04 PM Brian Lamb < blamb11@...> wrote: No.
On Mar 11, 2022, at 7:02 PM, Bob Wise < bob@...> wrote:
I'd be interested. I have an older K700, though. Have the inserts stayed the same? On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 5:12 PM Dan Gavrilyuk < dgwoodco@...> wrote: I’ve seen Ramon’s inserts, they look great! I like what he does by routing out the bottom to allow for a thicker insert. However, I chose to go with a simpler approach for now.?
Here’s a few more pics (with one coat of butcher block oil.) I left the insert just shy of 1 5/8” wide, this leaves about a 1/16th gap from the sliding table but one can also trim the insert to width as desired of course. Doing it this way makes sense so that I wouldn’t have a thin piece of wood flapping in the breeze.?
If there’s a little demand, I’d consider making the next batch reinforced by doing a laminated glueup to build up the thickness on the bottom. Will have to see how these hood up in the mean time.?These are just under 3/8” or 9.5” ml thickness. I’m thinking around $30 a piece plus shipping would cover my material costs and shop labor.
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?After a week it sure seems like the stock insert leaves something to be desired.
I just wonder how well a wooden insert will hold up, particularly the part between the blade and the table. That may not matter much, as the offcuts I am losing are on the other side of the blade.
Ramon Valdez makes some zero clearance inserts for 500 series saws but they are thicker, probably to strengthen the left side. The thickness means there is a lot of milling on the bottom surface.
If you ran some of these, what would you charge?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Mark’s saw is a 940 and has a completely different throat setup where the ZCI attaches. ?His saw is the same platform as my Kappa 400 and does not natively come with a system to mount a conventional throat plate. ?A new mounting platform has to be installed for a ZCI setup on our machines. ?I make mine out of anodized aluminum, Mark used a 3D printer to make his. ?That system looks like this.
 ? More details can be found here: ? ? Leveling the throat plate is done in a different manner than using jack screws like are required on the 700-series machines. ?
I am heartened that the new versions of the 700-series have a throat setup that makes implementing a ZCI plate without having a CNC mill. ?That’s a terrific improvement over the older design.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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On Mar 11, 2022, at 6:42 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk < dgwoodco@...> wrote:
Mark did you laminate that strip to the edge and then cut the bevel? The way you did it on the new saw looks fine actually. Zero clearance is more important on the right side anyway so little pieces done get sucked in there or blow up in the process.? Those little height adjustment screws were a pita to adjust level with the top.. seems better to just make a piece the thickness of the recess and call it a day.? On Mar 11, 2022, at 9:04 PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
? No.
On Mar 11, 2022, at 7:02 PM, Bob Wise < bob@...> wrote:
I'd be interested. I have an older K700, though. Have the inserts stayed the same? On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 5:12 PM Dan Gavrilyuk < dgwoodco@...> wrote: I’ve seen Ramon’s inserts, they look great! I like what he does by routing out the bottom to allow for a thicker insert. However, I chose to go with a simpler approach for now.?
Here’s a few more pics (with one coat of butcher block oil.) I left the insert just shy of 1 5/8” wide, this leaves about a 1/16th gap from the sliding table but one can also trim the insert to width as desired of course. Doing it this way makes sense so that I wouldn’t have a thin piece of wood flapping in the breeze.?
If there’s a little demand, I’d consider making the next batch reinforced by doing a laminated glueup to build up the thickness on the bottom. Will have to see how these hood up in the mean time.?These are just under 3/8” or 9.5” ml thickness. I’m thinking around $30 a piece plus shipping would cover my material costs and shop labor.
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?After a week it sure seems like the stock insert leaves something to be desired.
I just wonder how well a wooden insert will hold up, particularly the part between the blade and the table. That may not matter much, as the offcuts I am losing are on the other side of the blade.
Ramon Valdez makes some zero clearance inserts for 500 series saws but they are thicker, probably to strengthen the left side. The thickness means there is a lot of milling on the bottom surface.
If you ran some of these, what would you charge?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Renzetti’s system was designed for the earlier 700-series machines. ?I’m not clear when Felder made the switch to the newer more-friendly throat plate platform on the 700.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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On Mar 11, 2022, at 6:54 PM, Mark Foster < mfsta2lt@...> wrote:
John Renzetti who is a founding member here sells very nice ZCI’s this series saw. His are made from Garolite.
Mark Foster? ? Dan, is there going to be a riving knife slot?
Wade On Mar 11, 2022, at 5:12 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk <dgwoodco@...> wrote:
? I’ve seen Ramon’s inserts, they look great! I like what he does by routing out the bottom to allow for a thicker insert. However, I chose to go with a simpler approach for now.?
Here’s a few more pics (with one coat of butcher block oil.) I left the insert just shy of 1 5/8” wide, this leaves about a 1/16th gap from the sliding table but one can also trim the insert to width as desired of course. Doing it this way makes sense so that I wouldn’t have a thin piece of wood flapping in the breeze.?
If there’s a little demand, I’d consider making the next batch reinforced by doing a laminated glueup to build up the thickness on the bottom. Will have to see how these hood up in the mean time.?These are just under 3/8” or 9.5” ml thickness. I’m thinking around $30 a piece plus shipping would cover my material costs and shop labor.
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?After a week it sure seems like the stock insert leaves something to be desired.
I just wonder how well a wooden insert will hold up, particularly the part between the blade and the table. That may not matter much, as the offcuts I am losing are on the other side of the blade.
Ramon Valdez makes some zero clearance inserts for 500 series saws but they are thicker, probably to strengthen the left side. The thickness means there is a lot of milling on the bottom surface.
If you ran some of these, what would you charge?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
-- Mark Foster
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Here are a couple photos of John’s ZCI, different color but same quality product.
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Renzetti’s system was designed for the earlier 700-series machines. ?I’m not clear when Felder made the switch to the newer more-friendly throat plate platform on the 700.
On Mar 11, 2022, at 6:54 PM, Mark Foster < mfsta2lt@...> wrote:
John Renzetti who is a founding member here sells very nice ZCI’s this series saw. His are made from Garolite.
Mark Foster? ? Dan, is there going to be a riving knife slot?
Wade On Mar 11, 2022, at 5:12 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk <dgwoodco@...> wrote:
? I’ve seen Ramon’s inserts, they look great! I like what he does by routing out the bottom to allow for a thicker insert. However, I chose to go with a simpler approach for now.?
Here’s a few more pics (with one coat of butcher block oil.) I left the insert just shy of 1 5/8” wide, this leaves about a 1/16th gap from the sliding table but one can also trim the insert to width as desired of course. Doing it this way makes sense so that I wouldn’t have a thin piece of wood flapping in the breeze.?
If there’s a little demand, I’d consider making the next batch reinforced by doing a laminated glueup to build up the thickness on the bottom. Will have to see how these hood up in the mean time.?These are just under 3/8” or 9.5” ml thickness. I’m thinking around $30 a piece plus shipping would cover my material costs and shop labor.
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?After a week it sure seems like the stock insert leaves something to be desired.
I just wonder how well a wooden insert will hold up, particularly the part between the blade and the table. That may not matter much, as the offcuts I am losing are on the other side of the blade.
Ramon Valdez makes some zero clearance inserts for 500 series saws but they are thicker, probably to strengthen the left side. The thickness means there is a lot of milling on the bottom surface.
If you ran some of these, what would you charge?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
-- Mark Foster
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Mark Foster
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I'd also be interested in buying a couple of the wenge inserts!
On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 9:52 PM Mark Foster < mfsta2lt@...> wrote: Here are a couple photos of John’s ZCI, different color but same quality product.
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Renzetti’s system was designed for the earlier 700-series machines.? I’m not clear when Felder made the switch to the newer more-friendly throat plate platform on the 700.
On Mar 11, 2022, at 6:54 PM, Mark Foster < mfsta2lt@...> wrote:
John Renzetti who is a founding member here sells very nice ZCI’s this series saw. His are made from Garolite.
Mark Foster? ? Dan, is there going to be a riving knife slot?
Wade On Mar 11, 2022, at 5:12 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk <dgwoodco@...> wrote:
? I’ve seen Ramon’s inserts, they look great! I like what he does by routing out the bottom to allow for a thicker insert. However, I chose to go with a simpler approach for now.?
Here’s a few more pics (with one coat of butcher block oil.) I left the insert just shy of 1 5/8” wide, this leaves about a 1/16th gap from the sliding table but one can also trim the insert to width as desired of course. Doing it this way makes sense so that I wouldn’t have a thin piece of wood flapping in the breeze.?
If there’s a little demand, I’d consider making the next batch reinforced by doing a laminated glueup to build up the thickness on the bottom. Will have to see how these hood up in the mean time.?These are just under 3/8” or 9.5” ml thickness. I’m thinking around $30 a piece plus shipping would cover my material costs and shop labor.
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?After a week it sure seems like the stock insert leaves something to be desired.
I just wonder how well a wooden insert will hold up, particularly the part between the blade and the table. That may not matter much, as the offcuts I am losing are on the other side of the blade.
Ramon Valdez makes some zero clearance inserts for 500 series saws but they are thicker, probably to strengthen the left side. The thickness means there is a lot of milling on the bottom surface.
If you ran some of these, what would you charge?
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John Hinman
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K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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