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Facilitating remote start on single phase RL125


 

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Is this still the best way to get this to work? ?I’m in the process of fixing up my shop (for some reason, my spouse refers to it as a garage even though her assigned parking spot is in the driveway, at least in good weather).


Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq.
 

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I put physical solenoids on my 160? and wired them to little momentary switches?? at each of my work stations.? I can turn it on and off from wherever I am in the shop. I considered a remote and decided I'd just lose it.

The hard part was finding the right solenoids. I don't know how to read the tech specs sop it was trial and error.

On 7/23/21 4:18 PM, habacomike via groups.io wrote:

Is this still the best way to get this to work? ?I’m in the process of fixing up my shop (for some reason, my spouse refers to it as a garage even though her assigned parking spot is in the driveway, at least in good weather).


 

You can follow this thread if you have a recent version of an RL125/140/160:

/g/felderownersgroup/message/101395?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%252Fsticky,,RL125+auto+start,20,2,0,36263646

Bill


 

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Mike,

Is your RL125 single phase?

Do you have interest in auto control vs remote control?

Imran

On Jul 23, 2021, at 1:18 PM, habacomike via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:

?Is this still the best way to get this to work? ?I’m in the process of fixing up my shop (for some reason, my spouse refers to it as a garage even though her assigned parking spot is in the driveway, at least in good weather).


 

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It is single phase. ?Automatic control would be nice, but remote control will work…


Mike

On Jul 24, 2021, at 7:40 AM, imranindiana via <imranindiana@...> wrote:

Mike,

Is your RL125 single phase?

Do you have interest in auto control vs remote control?

Imran

On Jul 23, 2021, at 1:18 PM, habacomike via <habacomike@...> wrote:

?Is this still the best way to get this to work? ?I’m in the process of fixing up my shop (for some reason, my spouse refers to it as a garage even though her assigned parking spot is in the driveway, at least in good weather).



 

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Mike,

For single phase it is a bit more complicated. You can control it with a contactor meant to start single phase motor with start capacitor or a start/run capacitor. The contactor can be controlled with a remote. I did not read thru the pdf and it may be doing something similar.

Finally, the contactor switch can be controlled with a current relay if you want to do auto start. If all machines with DC are 3p then all you need is a single current sense relay costing about $20.

I have not done this personally but happy to help. We can communicate privately if you have any questions.

Imran

On Jul 24, 2021, at 8:22 AM, habacomike via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:

?It is single phase. ?Automatic control would be nice, but remote control will work…


Mike

On Jul 24, 2021, at 7:40 AM, imranindiana via <imranindiana@...> wrote:

Mike,

Is your RL125 single phase?

Do you have interest in auto control vs remote control?

Imran

On Jul 23, 2021, at 1:18 PM, habacomike via <habacomike@...> wrote:

?Is this still the best way to get this to work? ?I’m in the process of fixing up my shop (for some reason, my spouse refers to it as a garage even though her assigned parking spot is in the driveway, at least in good weather).



 

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Mike,

To answer your original question, the method shown (in the pdf) obviously works per the poster but it is not my preferred method. I used a potential relay to pull in the start caps in my RPC. As motor comes up to speed the voltage across potential relay drops and it cuts out. Same method is used in commercial control boxes for single phase motors.

Nothing wrong with what is recommended, it is just my preference.

Imran

On Jul 24, 2021, at 2:37 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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Mike,

For single phase it is a bit more complicated. You can control it with a contactor meant to start single phase motor with start capacitor or a start/run capacitor. The contactor can be controlled with a remote. I did not read thru the pdf and it may be doing something similar.

Finally, the contactor switch can be controlled with a current relay if you want to do auto start. If all machines with DC are 3p then all you need is a single current sense relay costing about $20.

I have not done this personally but happy to help. We can communicate privately if you have any questions.

Imran

On Jul 24, 2021, at 8:22 AM, habacomike via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:

?It is single phase. ?Automatic control would be nice, but remote control will work…


Mike

On Jul 24, 2021, at 7:40 AM, imranindiana via <imranindiana@...> wrote:

Mike,

Is your RL125 single phase?

Do you have interest in auto control vs remote control?

Imran

On Jul 23, 2021, at 1:18 PM, habacomike via <habacomike@...> wrote:

?Is this still the best way to get this to work? ?I’m in the process of fixing up my shop (for some reason, my spouse refers to it as a garage even though her assigned parking spot is in the driveway, at least in good weather).



 

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Thanks everyone. ?I’m off to Anderson Ranch for a couple of weeks and then a major reconfiguration of the duct system in my shop. ?It will be a few weeks before I embark on this project…


On Jul 24, 2021, at 7:08 PM, imranindiana via <imranindiana@...> wrote:

Mike,

To answer your original question, the method shown (in the pdf) obviously works per the poster but it is not my preferred method. I used a potential relay to pull in the start caps in my RPC. As motor comes up to speed the voltage across potential relay drops and it cuts out. Same method is used in commercial control boxes for single phase motors.

Nothing wrong with what is recommended, it is just my preference.

Imran

On Jul 24, 2021, at 2:37 PM, imranindiana via <imranindiana@...> wrote:

?
Mike,

For single phase it is a bit more complicated. You can control it with a contactor meant to start single phase motor with start capacitor or a start/run capacitor. The contactor can be controlled with a remote. I did not read thru the pdf and it may be doing something similar.

Finally, the contactor switch can be controlled with a current relay if you want to do auto start. If all machines with DC are 3p then all you need is a single current sense relay costing about $20.

I have not done this personally but happy to help. We can communicate privately if you have any questions.

Imran

On Jul 24, 2021, at 8:22 AM, habacomike via <habacomike@...> wrote:

?It is single phase. ?Automatic control would be nice, but remote control will work…


Mike

On Jul 24, 2021, at 7:40 AM, imranindiana via <imranindiana@...> wrote:

Mike,

Is your RL125 single phase?

Do you have interest in auto control vs remote control?

Imran

On Jul 23, 2021, at 1:18 PM, habacomike via <habacomike@...> wrote:

?Is this still the best way to get this to work? ?I’m in the process of fixing up my shop (for some reason, my spouse refers to it as a garage even though her assigned parking spot is in the driveway, at least in good weather).