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David Best replied with pictures, video's and even has one offered for sale if you had looked at his message.
Brian Lamb blamb11@... lambtoolworks.com
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 09:59:26 AM MST, stevensivak <stevensivak@...> wrote:
I would love to see one of those bridge city devices, but alas…
So no one who has responded uses one of those digital devices?
Steven Sivak
w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:48?PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
Nothing beats a sine plate, although not very practical for woodworking. All of these bevel gages are not anywhere close to accurate enough at 5 minutes of a degree. The Bridge City Gizmo is going to give you the best angle setting for a relatively easy to use jig that is applicable to woodworking, as it is basically using the sine plate convention with a digital caliper instead of Jo blocks.
Brian Lamb blamb11@... lambtoolworks.com
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 09:38:00 AM MST, Gerry Kmack <gerry.kmack@...> wrote:
<IMG_0016.jpeg> yup that’s it - Starrett #C359. It don’t think they make it anymore. Mine also came with the optional right angle thingie, that attaches to the bar with the logo on it. The right angle attachment is useful, but increases the complexity of the setup, if needed. I use it at least weekly, to check the accuracy of angles cut on my CNC mill.
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I did read his message- I don’t see any offer of sale for the Bridge City Tool
However, its clear that no one who has replied uses something like this: |
Steven Sivak
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:59?PM, Steven Sivak <stevensivak@...> wrote:
I would love to see one of those bridge city devices, but alas…
So no one who has responded uses one of those digital devices?
Steven Sivak
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w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:48?PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
Nothing beats a sine plate, although not very practical for woodworking. All of these bevel gages are not anywhere close to accurate enough at 5 minutes of a degree. The Bridge City Gizmo is going to give you the best angle setting for a relatively easy to use jig that is applicable to woodworking, as it is basically using the sine plate convention with a digital caliper instead of Jo blocks.
Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
lambtoolworks.com
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 09:38:00 AM MST, Gerry Kmack <gerry.kmack@...> wrote:
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yup that’s it - Starrett #C359. It don’t think they make it anymore. Mine also came with the optional right angle thingie, that attaches to the bar with the logo on it. The right angle attachment is useful, but increases the complexity of the setup, if needed. I use it at least weekly, to check the accuracy of angles cut on my CNC mill.
I was about to ask you which digital device you are inquiring about. Zhou never shared a link until now. I am surprised you are asking a list this when you speak of your requirement of 3 decimal places. You should be able to tell, from specification that this device is not up to it. Also you cannot use an inclinometer for setting g your xcut fence. I believe you need to make compound angle cuts. Sorry, if I misunderstood your need.
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 1:27?PM, stevensivak via groups.io <stevensivak@...> wrote: ?
I did read his message- I don’t see any offer of sale for the Bridge City Tool
However, its clear that no one who has replied uses something like this: |
Steven Sivak
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w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:59?PM, Steven Sivak <stevensivak@...> wrote:
I would love to see one of those bridge city devices, but alas…
So no one who has responded uses one of those digital devices?
Steven Sivak
<SSA Email Signature.jpg>
w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:48?PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
Nothing beats a sine plate, although not very practical for woodworking. All of these bevel gages are not anywhere close to accurate enough at 5 minutes of a degree. The Bridge City Gizmo is going to give you the best angle setting for a relatively easy to use jig that is applicable to woodworking, as it is basically using the sine plate convention with a digital caliper instead of Jo blocks.
Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
lambtoolworks.com
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 09:38:00 AM MST, Gerry Kmack <gerry.kmack@...> wrote:
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yup that’s it - Starrett #C359. It don’t think they make it anymore. Mine also came with the optional right angle thingie, that attaches to the bar with the logo on it. The right angle attachment is useful, but increases the complexity of the setup, if needed. I use it at least weekly, to check the accuracy of angles cut on my CNC mill.
I have a Bosch digital protractor along those same lines. They aren't accurate enough either, .1? is all they read to, and it's more like plus or minus .1?. That's worse than the 1/12? that the Starrett claims. Here is the link to David's message:
?/g/felderownersgroup/message/121334
Brian Lamb blamb11@... lambtoolworks.com
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 10:27:18 AM MST, stevensivak <stevensivak@...> wrote:
I did read his message- I don’t see any offer of sale for the Bridge City Tool
However, its clear that no one who has replied uses something like this: |
Steven Sivak
w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:59?PM, Steven Sivak <stevensivak@...> wrote:
I would love to see one of those bridge city devices, but alas…
So no one who has responded uses one of those digital devices?
Steven Sivak
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w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:48?PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
Nothing beats a sine plate, although not very practical for woodworking. All of these bevel gages are not anywhere close to accurate enough at 5 minutes of a degree. The Bridge City Gizmo is going to give you the best angle setting for a relatively easy to use jig that is applicable to woodworking, as it is basically using the sine plate convention with a digital caliper instead of Jo blocks.
Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
lambtoolworks.com
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 09:38:00 AM MST, Gerry Kmack <gerry.kmack@...> wrote:
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yup that’s it - Starrett #C359. It don’t think they make it anymore. Mine also came with the optional right angle thingie, that attaches to the bar with the logo on it. The right angle attachment is useful, but increases the complexity of the setup, if needed. I use it at least weekly, to check the accuracy of angles cut on my CNC mill.
I use Beal like Waxiy for many years on saw and shaper and milling spindles for years close enough for my work just have to feed them batteries. Designing and building for 50 years
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:35?PM, Brian Lamb via groups.io <blamb11@...> wrote:
? I have a Bosch digital protractor along those same lines. They aren't accurate enough either, .1? is all they read to, and it's more like plus or minus .1?. That's worse than the 1/12? that the Starrett claims. Here is the link to David's message:
?/g/felderownersgroup/message/121334
Brian Lamb blamb11@... lambtoolworks.com
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 10:27:18 AM MST, stevensivak <stevensivak@...> wrote:
I did read his message- I don’t see any offer of sale for the Bridge City Tool
However, its clear that no one who has replied uses something like this:
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Steven Sivak
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w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:59?PM, Steven Sivak <stevensivak@...> wrote:
I would love to see one of those bridge city devices, but alas…
So no one who has responded uses one of those digital devices?
Steven Sivak
<SSA Email Signature.jpg>
w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:48?PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
Nothing beats a sine plate, although not very practical for woodworking. All of these bevel gages are not anywhere close to accurate enough at 5 minutes of a degree. The Bridge City Gizmo is going to give you the best angle setting for a relatively easy to use jig that is applicable to woodworking, as it is basically using the sine plate convention with a digital caliper instead of Jo blocks.
Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
lambtoolworks.com
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 09:38:00 AM MST, Gerry Kmack <gerry.kmack@...> wrote:
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yup that’s it - Starrett #C359. It don’t think they make it anymore. Mine also came with the optional right angle thingie, that attaches to the bar with the logo on it. The right angle attachment is useful, but increases the complexity of the setup, if needed. I use it at least weekly, to check the accuracy of angles cut on my CNC mill.
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I do not wish to buy his tool at some sort of “limited collector value” And while I did initially say “regardless of price..” ?1,000$ is more than I? 补苍迟颈肠颈辫补迟别诲…
Steven Sivak
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 1:35?PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
I have a Bosch digital protractor along those same lines. They aren't accurate enough either, .1? is all they read to, and it's more like plus or minus .1?. That's worse than the 1/12? that the Starrett claims. Here is the link to David's message:
?/g/felderownersgroup/message/121334
Brian Lamb blamb11@... lambtoolworks.com
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 10:27:18 AM MST, stevensivak <stevensivak@...> wrote:
I did read his message- I don’t see any offer of sale for the Bridge City Tool
However, its clear that no one who has replied uses something like this:
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Steven Sivak
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w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:59?PM, Steven Sivak <stevensivak@...> wrote:
I would love to see one of those bridge city devices, but alas…
So no one who has responded uses one of those digital devices?
Steven Sivak
<SSA Email Signature.jpg>
w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:48?PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
Nothing beats a sine plate, although not very practical for woodworking. All of these bevel gages are not anywhere close to accurate enough at 5 minutes of a degree. The Bridge City Gizmo is going to give you the best angle setting for a relatively easy to use jig that is applicable to woodworking, as it is basically using the sine plate convention with a digital caliper instead of Jo blocks.
Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
lambtoolworks.com
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 09:38:00 AM MST, Gerry Kmack <gerry.kmack@...> wrote:
<IMG_0016.jpeg>
yup that’s it - Starrett #C359. It don’t think they make it anymore. Mine also came with the optional right angle thingie, that attaches to the bar with the logo on it. The right angle attachment is useful, but increases the complexity of the setup, if needed. I use it at least weekly, to check the accuracy of angles cut on my CNC mill.
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Maybe this Westward digital protractor? paired with EZ digital miter gauge? is good enough?
I have a Bosch digital protractor along those same lines. They aren't accurate enough either, .1? is all they read to, and it's more like plus or minus .1?. That's worse than the 1/12? that the Starrett claims. Here is the link to David's message:
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 10:27:18 AM MST, stevensivak < stevensivak@...> wrote:
I did read his message- I don’t see any offer of sale for the Bridge City Tool
However, its clear that no one who has replied uses something like this:
|
Steven Sivak
w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
I would love to see one of those bridge city devices, but alas…
So no one who has responded uses one of those digital devices?
Steven Sivak
<SSA Email Signature.jpg>
w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:48?PM, Brian Lamb <
blamb11@...> wrote:
Nothing beats a sine plate, although not very practical for woodworking. All of these bevel gages are not anywhere close to accurate enough at 5 minutes of a degree. The Bridge City Gizmo is going to give you the best angle setting for a relatively easy to use jig that is applicable to woodworking, as it is basically using the sine plate convention with a digital caliper instead of Jo blocks.
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 09:38:00 AM MST, Gerry Kmack <
gerry.kmack@...> wrote:
<IMG_0016.jpeg>
yup that’s it - Starrett #C359. It don’t think they make it anymore. Mine also came with the optional right angle thingie, that attaches to the bar with the logo on it. The right angle attachment is useful, but increases the complexity of the setup, if needed. I use it at least weekly, to check the accuracy of angles cut on my CNC mill.
I have a couple of those digital level gizmos too. I used one for setting blade tilt angle on a cabinet saw, and it was an improvement over the indicator on the saw itself. If one needs super precise measurements it is not likely to be sufficient. The base is narrow and is plastic, so manufacturing tolerances limit them.
They are robust. I saw one get launched across a shop when the operator turned the saw on with the device still on the blade. The case is a bit chewed up, but it still works.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S and A941
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It seems all of these devices are the same regardless of price in that they all have an accuracy of .2 degrees…
Steven Sivak
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 1:57?PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
Maybe this Westward digital protractor? paired with EZ digital miter gauge? is good enough?
I have a Bosch digital protractor along those same lines. They aren't accurate enough either, .1? is all they read to, and it's more like plus or minus .1?. That's worse than the 1/12? that the Starrett claims. Here is the link to David's message:
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 10:27:18 AM MST, stevensivak < stevensivak@...> wrote:
I did read his message- I don’t see any offer of sale for the Bridge City Tool
However, its clear that no one who has replied uses something like this:
|
Steven Sivak
<SSA Email Signature.jpg>
w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
I would love to see one of those bridge city devices, but alas…
So no one who has responded uses one of those digital devices?
Steven Sivak
<SSA Email Signature.jpg>
w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:48?PM, Brian Lamb <
blamb11@...> wrote:
Nothing beats a sine plate, although not very practical for woodworking. All of these bevel gages are not anywhere close to accurate enough at 5 minutes of a degree. The Bridge City Gizmo is going to give you the best angle setting for a relatively easy to use jig that is applicable to woodworking, as it is basically using the sine plate convention with a digital caliper instead of Jo blocks.
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 09:38:00 AM MST, Gerry Kmack <
gerry.kmack@...> wrote:
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yup that’s it - Starrett #C359. It don’t think they make it anymore. Mine also came with the optional right angle thingie, that attaches to the bar with the logo on it. The right angle attachment is useful, but increases the complexity of the setup, if needed. I use it at least weekly, to check the accuracy of angles cut on my CNC mill.
Well at the end of the day, the $1,000 starrett tool is the only solution, damn!
Steven Sivak
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 2:00?PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
I have a couple of those digital level gizmos too. I used one for setting blade tilt angle on a cabinet saw, and it was an improvement over the indicator on the saw itself. If one needs super precise measurements it is not likely to be sufficient. The base is narrow and is plastic, so manufacturing tolerances limit them.
They are robust. I saw one get launched across a shop when the operator turned the saw on with the device still on the blade. The case is a bit chewed up, but it still works.
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S and A941
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Every time I found myself needing something hyper-accurate for woodworking and there did not seem to be a common solution I learned that the design was wrong for wood.
Martin makes a very nice compound miter solution for their saws that is accurate to .01 degrees. ?Depending on how long your edges that is probably not enough to cut perfect parts.
If you want to machine a material more accurately than that then you get into metal working machinery and maybe even a jig borer. ?Mac Campshure told me about the Moore Jig Grinder/borer and I read a couple books about Metrology trying to learn what tolerance was workable in a woodshop. ?My goal in my shop when making tilt and turn windows was plus or minus .1mm. ?This is very hard to achieve and I rarely did but that was the goal. ?
I once hired a shop to make Plywood boxes for an art museum. ?He showed me how the beveled joints just had to be close, not perfect, and how it was a simple mater to run the edge of screwdriver shaft along the seam and close the gaps. ?Knowing how to work with the material made the finished product possible. ?
Joe
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 11:06?AM, stevensivak via groups.io <stevensivak@...> wrote:
Well at the end of the day, the $1,000 starrett tool is the only solution, damn!
Steven Sivak
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 2:00?PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
I have a couple of those digital level gizmos too. I used one for setting blade tilt angle on a cabinet saw, and it was an improvement over the indicator on the saw itself. If one needs super precise measurements it is not likely to be sufficient. The base is narrow and is plastic, so manufacturing tolerances limit them.
They are robust. I saw one get launched across a shop when the operator turned the saw on with the device still on the blade. The case is a bit chewed up, but it still works.
--?
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S and A941
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If you already have a slider then the EGL or DGL from Felder is good for a .1 of a degree after calibration and then you can set your saw blade angle and have very nice compound cuts. Setting the stop length to register against the stops when cutting will be another source of error. ?
Maybe a multi axis Mill would be the way to go?
Joe
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 11:06?AM, stevensivak via groups.io <stevensivak@...> wrote:
Well at the end of the day, the $1,000 starrett tool is the only solution, damn!
Steven Sivak
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 2:00?PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
I have a couple of those digital level gizmos too. I used one for setting blade tilt angle on a cabinet saw, and it was an improvement over the indicator on the saw itself. If one needs super precise measurements it is not likely to be sufficient. The base is narrow and is plastic, so manufacturing tolerances limit them.
They are robust. I saw one get launched across a shop when the operator turned the saw on with the device still on the blade. The case is a bit chewed up, but it still works.
--?
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S and A941
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That is the challenge, but it has been met- look at his set up!
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Steven Sivak
w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
On Jun 17, 2024, at 3:03?PM, bacchus6015 via groups.io <joeinno@...> wrote:
Every time I found myself needing something hyper-accurate for woodworking and there did not seem to be a common solution I learned that the design was wrong for wood.
Martin makes a very nice compound miter solution for their saws that is accurate to .01 degrees. ?Depending on how long your edges that is probably not enough to cut perfect parts.
If you want to machine a material more accurately than that then you get into metal working machinery and maybe even a jig borer. ?Mac Campshure told me about the Moore Jig Grinder/borer and I read a couple books about Metrology trying to learn what tolerance was workable in a woodshop. ?My goal in my shop when making tilt and turn windows was plus or minus .1mm. ?This is very hard to achieve and I rarely did but that was the goal. ?
I once hired a shop to make Plywood boxes for an art museum. ?He showed me how the beveled joints just had to be close, not perfect, and how it was a simple mater to run the edge of screwdriver shaft along the seam and close the gaps. ?Knowing how to work with the material made the finished product possible. ?
Joe
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 11:06?AM, stevensivak via groups.io <stevensivak@...> wrote:
Well at the end of the day, the $1,000 starrett tool is the only solution, damn!
Steven Sivak
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w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
On Jun 17, 2024, at 2:00?PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
I have a couple of those digital level gizmos too. I used one for setting blade tilt angle on a cabinet saw, and it was an improvement over the indicator on the saw itself. If one needs super precise measurements it is not likely to be sufficient. The base is narrow and is plastic, so manufacturing tolerances limit them.
They are robust. I saw one get launched across a shop when the operator turned the saw on with the device still on the blade. The case is a bit chewed up, but it still works.
--?
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S and A941
Does that, whatever it is, work on a SCM?
Steven Sivak
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That is the challenge, but it has been met- look at his set up!
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 3:03?PM, bacchus6015 via groups.io <joeinno@...> wrote:
Every time I found myself needing something hyper-accurate for woodworking and there did not seem to be a common solution I learned that the design was wrong for wood.
Martin makes a very nice compound miter solution for their saws that is accurate to .01 degrees. ?Depending on how long your edges that is probably not enough to cut perfect parts.
If you want to machine a material more accurately than that then you get into metal working machinery and maybe even a jig borer. ?Mac Campshure told me about the Moore Jig Grinder/borer and I read a couple books about Metrology trying to learn what tolerance was workable in a woodshop. ?My goal in my shop when making tilt and turn windows was plus or minus .1mm. ?This is very hard to achieve and I rarely did but that was the goal. ?
I once hired a shop to make Plywood boxes for an art museum. ?He showed me how the beveled joints just had to be close, not perfect, and how it was a simple mater to run the edge of screwdriver shaft along the seam and close the gaps. ?Knowing how to work with the material made the finished product possible. ?
Joe
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 11:06?AM, stevensivak via groups.io <stevensivak@...> wrote:
Well at the end of the day, the $1,000 starrett tool is the only solution, damn!
Steven Sivak
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w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
On Jun 17, 2024, at 2:00?PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
I have a couple of those digital level gizmos too. I used one for setting blade tilt angle on a cabinet saw, and it was an improvement over the indicator on the saw itself. If one needs super precise measurements it is not likely to be sufficient. The base is narrow and is plastic, so manufacturing tolerances limit them.
They are robust. I saw one get launched across a shop when the operator turned the saw on with the device still on the blade. The case is a bit chewed up, but it still works.
--?
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S and A941
Very nice! ?
I especially like the digital microscope. ?I wanted something like that to more accurately place glazing beads when cutting to mark for the windows. ?The microscope would have solved my issue nicely.
The EGL and DGL will work on any slider if you can get a mounting block or make a mounting block. ?
What I liked about the EGL was that the scale was huge and easy to read. ?There really is no reason to pay extra for EGL calulator as it just calculates the angles for miters of two different width workpieces. ?The extensions for the EGL were nice though. ?
Altendorf sells a compound miter attachment that has a DRO that is nice but more expensive than Felders offerings. ?Martin also sells one. ?
Joe
?I used a magnifying light that David Best gave to me but the microscope would have worked better.
Note the giant scale around the arc at the back of the EGL.
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:06?PM, stevensivak via groups.io <stevensivak@...> wrote:
That is the challenge, but it has been met- look at his set up!
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Steven Sivak
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 3:03?PM, bacchus6015 via groups.io <joeinno@...> wrote:
Every time I found myself needing something hyper-accurate for woodworking and there did not seem to be a common solution I learned that the design was wrong for wood.
Martin makes a very nice compound miter solution for their saws that is accurate to .01 degrees. ?Depending on how long your edges that is probably not enough to cut perfect parts.
If you want to machine a material more accurately than that then you get into metal working machinery and maybe even a jig borer. ?Mac Campshure told me about the Moore Jig Grinder/borer and I read a couple books about Metrology trying to learn what tolerance was workable in a woodshop. ?My goal in my shop when making tilt and turn windows was plus or minus .1mm. ?This is very hard to achieve and I rarely did but that was the goal. ?
I once hired a shop to make Plywood boxes for an art museum. ?He showed me how the beveled joints just had to be close, not perfect, and how it was a simple mater to run the edge of screwdriver shaft along the seam and close the gaps. ?Knowing how to work with the material made the finished product possible. ?
Joe
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 11:06?AM, stevensivak via groups.io <stevensivak@...> wrote:
Well at the end of the day, the $1,000 starrett tool is the only solution, damn!
Steven Sivak
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w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
On Jun 17, 2024, at 2:00?PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
I have a couple of those digital level gizmos too. I used one for setting blade tilt angle on a cabinet saw, and it was an improvement over the indicator on the saw itself. If one needs super precise measurements it is not likely to be sufficient. The base is narrow and is plastic, so manufacturing tolerances limit them.
They are robust. I saw one get launched across a shop when the operator turned the saw on with the device still on the blade. The case is a bit chewed up, but it still works.
--?
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S and A941
When you post to a Felder group and use the phrase "regardless of price", you should not be surprised when very expensive options are provided. Precision tools are not cheap, and there isn't much in between the Woodcraft level and the Starrett level, unfortunately. Perhaps in the future you could more accurately describe your request and that might improve the relevance of your responses.?
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No kidding!
From 30$ to 1,000$ with nothing in between- ?boo-hoo!
But in my defense, I did not know what I did not know….
Steven Sivak
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 3:56?PM, Brandon Nickel <brandon.nickel@...> wrote:
When you post to a Felder group and use the phrase "regardless of price", you should not be surprised when very expensive options are provided. Precision tools are not cheap, and there isn't much in between the Woodcraft level and the Starrett level, unfortunately. Perhaps in the future you could more accurately describe your request and that might improve the relevance of your responses.?
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 3:02?PM, stevensivak via groups.io <stevensivak@...> wrote:
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No kidding!
From 30$ to 1,000$ with nothing in between- ?boo-hoo!
But in my defense, I did not know what I did not know….
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 3:56?PM, Brandon Nickel <brandon.nickel@...> wrote:
When you post to a Felder group and use the phrase "regardless of price", you should not be surprised when very expensive options are provided. Precision tools are not cheap, and there isn't much in between the Woodcraft level and the Starrett level, unfortunately. Perhaps in the future you could more accurately describe your request and that might improve the relevance of your responses.?
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A sine plate and set of gage blocks are as accurate as anything mentioned on here and the prices are between $19 and $3000.? Additionally, they can be used to hold the work, not just transfer an angle to a cutter or fence.? That means the setup can be very repeatable.? For even less money, a work holding jig could be built from scrap wood.? It will just take some time to sneak up on the final dimensions.? The guy demoing the bridge city kanorbus then exposed the weakness by making patterns with added blue tape shims.? There is always some difference between measuring and doing. ?  Question, my Starrett protractor has a readout showing degrees and a vernier scale in minutes.? Does that mean it has an imperial scale?
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I have a Wixey digital protractor that is accurate to 0.1 degrees. Through trial and error I've set my sliding saw to create half of an icosidodecahedron coffee table.?
I'd love to own a Bridge City Angle Master Pro but I'm making due with what I have. The Mitutoyo protractor would be more than accurate enough for what you're doing. Your saw blade flexing mid cut or moisture change in the wood between cut and glue up would probably change the angle more than .01 degrees.?
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On Sat, Jun 15, 2024, 6:30?AM David P. Best via <dbestworkshop= [email protected]> wrote: That’s funny - I’d love to see you consistently set and cut compound angles on your sliding table saw more accurately than that Mitutoyo protractor can resolve.? What a joke.?
The Bridge City Angle Master is highly sought after and has cult status.? That’s why they are so rare.? I guess you still didn’t read my previous past.? Good luck.
Once every two years?
I don't think those protractors are accurate enough...
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