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Bandsaws: Felder vs ACM

Gerald Yungling All Messages By This Member #102246 Someone recently made a comment that the Felder FBs were/are rebranded ACMs but not as good as the bandsaws directly from ACM. So now I’m looking at the BS 740 and even the Summa 740 2” but have no idea how they compare to Felder in quality much less price. Obviously the Summa has got to be significantly more expensive. Any general or specific feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Gerald
David Kumm All Messages By This Member #102247 开云体育 FB saws are not sourced from ACM.? The Felder 740 industrial line is ACM.? Dave toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Gerald Yungling via Groups.Io <gyungling@...> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 3:35 PM To: Felder Owners Group <[email protected]> Subject: [FOG] Bandsaws: Felder vs ACM ? Someone recently made a comment that the Felder FBs were/are rebranded ACMs but not as good as the bandsaws directly from ACM.? So now I’m looking at the BS 740 and even the Summa 740 2” but have no idea how they compare to Felder in quality much less price.? Obviously the Summa has got to be significantly more expensive. Any general or specific feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Gerald
David Davies All Messages By This Member #102248 Interesting that the Summa appears to have the Xroll sliding table Dave toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 2:40 PM David Kumm via Groups.Io <davekumm=[email protected]> wrote: FB saws are not sourced from ACM.? The Felder 740 industrial line is ACM.? Dave From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Gerald Yungling via Groups.Io <gyungling=[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 3:35 PM To: Felder Owners Group <[email protected]> Subject: [FOG] Bandsaws: Felder vs ACM ? Someone recently made a comment that the Felder FBs were/are rebranded ACMs but not as good as the bandsaws directly from ACM.? So now I’m looking at the BS 740 and even the Summa 740 2” but have no idea how they compare to Felder in quality much less price.? Obviously the Summa has got to be significantly more expensive. Any general or specific feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Gerald -- Dave & Marie Davies 318-219-7868
David P. Best All Messages By This Member #102249 开云体育 Cross-licensing. ? “Give us your bandsaw designs and we’ll sell you sliding tables.” ?? David Best toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Feb 20, 2020, at 12:43 PM, David Davies via Groups.Io <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote: Interesting that the Summa appears to have the Xroll sliding table Dave On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 2:40 PM David Kumm via Groups.Io <davekumm=[email protected]> wrote: FB saws are not sourced from ACM.? The Felder 740 industrial line is ACM.? Dave From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Gerald Yungling via Groups.Io <gyungling=[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 3:35 PM To: Felder Owners Group <[email protected]> Subject: [FOG] Bandsaws: Felder vs ACM ? Someone recently made a comment that the Felder FBs were/are rebranded ACMs but not as good as the bandsaws directly from ACM.? So now I’m looking at the BS 740 and even the Summa 740 2” but have no idea how they compare to Felder in quality much less price.? Obviously the Summa has got to be significantly more expensive. Any general or specific feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Gerald -- Dave & Marie Davies 318-219-7868
Brian Rowland All Messages By This Member #102251 I own a Felder FB510 and an ACM Star 600. I spent years trying to find a good used Italian Bandsaw and gave up and bought the FB510.new The FB510 is a great bandsaw - with a couple of minor annoyances. In my opinion the electronic braking system is agricultural - causing weird noises and vibration each time the machine is turned off. But on the plus side it cuts accurately and is a very gutsy machine. And has the excellent fence system allowing useful table extensions. Plus the guide system which is why I selected it over the SCM option. The ACM 600 Built in 2000 was purchased from a friend - it came up ironically just after I had purchased the Felder (!) Beautifully built, the ACM has superbly balanced cast wheels ?solid and remarkably quiet (makes the Felder seem noisy in operation) No electronic braking nonsense either just a good old fashioned foot brake that does the job. I couldn’t resist it - as it was “As New ” condition for less than half the price of the FB510. The two machines share many similarities and no doubt the FB510 is a derivative of the excellent ACM design. You can’t go wrong with either - but I think the best bandsaws come from Italy. And a good used ACM, Centaur or Agazzani are great value and worth consideration.
David Kumm All Messages By This Member #102252 开云体育 The 600 is ACM's Star series which is lighter than their "40" series.? Only relevant if resawing a lot.? Dave toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Brian Rowland <rowfam50@...> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 5:08 PM To: Gerald Yungling <gyungling@...>; [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] Bandsaws: Felder vs ACM ? I own a Felder FB510 and an ACM Star 600. I spent years trying to find a good used Italian Bandsaw and gave up and bought the FB510.new The FB510 is a great bandsaw - with a couple of minor annoyances. In my opinion the electronic braking system is agricultural - causing weird noises and vibration each time the machine is turned off. But on the plus side it cuts accurately and is a very gutsy machine. And has the excellent fence system allowing useful table extensions. Plus the guide system which is why I selected it over the SCM option. The ACM 600 Built in 2000 was purchased from a friend - it came up ironically just after I had purchased the Felder (!) Beautifully built, the ACM has superbly balanced cast wheels ?solid and remarkably quiet (makes the Felder seem noisy in operation) No electronic braking nonsense either just a good old fashioned foot brake that does the job. I couldn’t resist it - as it was “As New ” condition for less than half the price of the FB510. The two machines share many similarities and no doubt the FB510 is a derivative of the excellent ACM design. You can’t go wrong with either - but I think the best bandsaws come from Italy. And a good used ACM, Centaur or Agazzani are great value and worth consideration.
Gerald Yungling All Messages By This Member #102253 开云体育 Brian, Thanks for the great side-by-side comparison. ?I’m leaning on going with Felder. ?All of my other big machines will be Felder (also planning on ordering a K740, AD951 & F700Z, plus dust collection) in 12-18 months) and all other factors being equal, why complicate ordering, shipping, service etc. by dealing with more than one company? ?But if the ACM or anything else is significantly better I’m open to it. ?Not to mention, the idea of a slider on the bandsaw is appealing. ?And the ACM Swing line is about the sexiest thing I’ve ever seen (don’t tell my wife I said that) although I can’t imagine ever needing that kind of functionality or capacity. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Feb 20, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Brian Rowland <rowfam50@...> wrote: I own a Felder FB510 and an ACM Star 600. I spent years trying to find a good used Italian Bandsaw and gave up and bought the FB510.new The FB510 is a great bandsaw - with a couple of minor annoyances. In my opinion the electronic braking system is agricultural - causing weird noises and vibration each time the machine is turned off. But on the plus side it cuts accurately and is a very gutsy machine. And has the excellent fence system allowing useful table extensions. Plus the guide system which is why I selected it over the SCM option. The ACM 600 Built in 2000 was purchased from a friend - it came up ironically just after I had purchased the Felder (!) Beautifully built, the ACM has superbly balanced cast wheels ?solid and remarkably quiet (makes the Felder seem noisy in operation) No electronic braking nonsense either just a good old fashioned foot brake that does the job. I couldn’t resist it - as it was “As New ” condition for less than half the price of the FB510. The two machines share many similarities and no doubt the FB510 is a derivative of the excellent ACM design. You can’t go wrong with either - but I think the best bandsaws come from Italy. And a good used ACM, Centaur or Agazzani are great value and worth consideration.
David Kumm All Messages By This Member #102254 开云体育 740 is a great size.? Large table and ability to resaw easily.? There has been a used Felder ( ACM ) for sale recently.? Dave toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Gerald Yungling via Groups.Io <gyungling@...> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 5:25 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; rowfam50@... <rowfam50@...> Subject: Re: [FOG] Bandsaws: Felder vs ACM ? Brian, Thanks for the great side-by-side comparison. ?I’m leaning on going with Felder. ?All of my other big machines will be Felder (also planning on ordering a K740, AD951 & F700Z, plus dust collection) in 12-18 months) and all other factors being equal, why complicate ordering, shipping, service etc. by dealing with more than one company? ?But if the ACM or anything else is significantly better I’m open to it. ?Not to mention, the idea of a slider on the bandsaw is appealing. ?And the ACM Swing line is about the sexiest thing I’ve ever seen (don’t tell my wife I said that) although I can’t imagine ever needing that kind of functionality or capacity. On Feb 20, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Brian Rowland <rowfam50@...> wrote: I own a Felder FB510 and an ACM Star 600. I spent years trying to find a good used Italian Bandsaw and gave up and bought the FB510.new The FB510 is a great bandsaw - with a couple of minor annoyances. In my opinion the electronic braking system is agricultural - causing weird noises and vibration each time the machine is turned off. But on the plus side it cuts accurately and is a very gutsy machine. And has the excellent fence system allowing useful table extensions. Plus the guide system which is why I selected it over the SCM option. The ACM 600 Built in 2000 was purchased from a friend - it came up ironically just after I had purchased the Felder (!) Beautifully built, the ACM has superbly balanced cast wheels ?solid and remarkably quiet (makes the Felder seem noisy in operation) No electronic braking nonsense either just a good old fashioned foot brake that does the job. I couldn’t resist it - as it was “As New ” condition for less than half the price of the FB510. The two machines share many similarities and no doubt the FB510 is a derivative of the excellent ACM design. You can’t go wrong with either - but I think the best bandsaws come from Italy. And a good used ACM, Centaur or Agazzani are great value and worth consideration.
Brian Rowland All Messages By This Member #102258 Edited Gerald don’t get me wrong I am a great fan of Felder and what you outline makes sense in sourcing from a single supplier if you are in the market for multiple machines. Purchasing ?multiple machines from Felder should give you leverage for a great deal! I agree a slider on the bandsaw is a great idea - especially for re-sawing. The 740 is a Beast! Here in Melbourne Felder are small ?compared to SCM but provide excellent support even for smaller customers like myself a non pro woodworker. I also own a Hammer A3/41 and very happy with it. Still deciding on the table saw slider upgrade - but k700 is on the shortlist.

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