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A note of caution


 

I know most of the folks in this group are hobbyists, and as such are probably in the shop alone most of the time. Please carry your phone on your person at all times in case of an accident.

Yesterday in the shop, there were three of us fortunately. I'm usually aware of my surroundings and am quick to offer help before someone asks for it. Not yesterday though. I was applying finish, had my earphones on in my own world. That's when I heard the crash from across the shop. My shop mate had been on a ladder getting some wood off of the storage rack. We found him on the floor on his back, twisted up in a pile of wood and the ladder. He was unconscious and bleeding badly from the back of his head. Called 911. We got all the wood/ladder moved off of him and I rolled him to his side and applied pressure to his wound to stop the bleeding. I kept talking to him and he came to, and was totally incoherent for a couple minutes. He started to make some sense after a couple minutes, but had no idea what happened. The paramedics arrived within 10 minutes. They put a neck brace on him and got him sitting up for a minute, but he was very nauseous. They then put him on a gurney and took him out to the ambulance where they checked him out further. Ended up at HCMC, a level one trauma center. CT scan showed a brain bleed and skull fractures. His cognitive test results were good. Hoping for the best. He may be there a while. I shudder to think about if he would have been in the shop alone.?

Please check your risk factors. Ask for help when you need it. Your friends and family want you around.
Jason
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J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


 

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Jason,

I pray your mate comes out of it fully recovered and as soon as possible.

I learned this lesson when i was on the roof during constructing the addition behind my shop and my ladder fell. Yes, I know i need to secure it but it was on the opposite end of the prevailing wind side.

Another safety rule of our house, no chainsaw work when wife is not home. Does not matter if I have cell or not.

Imran

On Jan 22, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:

?I know most of the folks in this group are hobbyists, and as such are probably in the shop alone most of the time. Please carry your phone on your person at all times in case of an accident.

Yesterday in the shop, there were three of us fortunately. I'm usually aware of my surroundings and am quick to offer help before someone asks for it. Not yesterday though. I was applying finish, had my earphones on in my own world. That's when I heard the crash from across the shop. My shop mate had been on a ladder getting some wood off of the storage rack. We found him on the floor on his back, twisted up in a pile of wood and the ladder. He was unconscious and bleeding badly from the back of his head. Called 911. We got all the wood/ladder moved off of him and I rolled him to his side and applied pressure to his wound to stop the bleeding. I kept talking to him and he came to, and was totally incoherent for a couple minutes. He started to make some sense after a couple minutes, but had no idea what happened. The paramedics arrived within 10 minutes. They put a neck brace on him and got him sitting up for a minute, but he was very nauseous. They then put him on a gurney and took him out to the ambulance where they checked him out further. Ended up at HCMC, a level one trauma center. CT scan showed a brain bleed and skull fractures. His cognitive test results were good. Hoping for the best. He may be there a while. I shudder to think about if he would have been in the shop alone.?

Please check your risk factors. Ask for help when you need it. Your friends and family want you around.
Jason
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


 

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Best wishes to your friend, Jason. I’ve had my share of accidents on the farm, and our neighbor is now partially paralyzed after such an accident. The working alone deal is often part of the problem, but at the end of the day, you just can’t be too careful and sharing stories keeps it real.

Bird

On Jan 22, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:

I know most of the folks in this group are hobbyists, and as such are probably in the shop alone most of the time. Please carry your phone on your person at all times in case of an accident.

Yesterday in the shop, there were three of us fortunately. I'm usually aware of my surroundings and am quick to offer help before someone asks for it. Not yesterday though. I was applying finish, had my earphones on in my own world. That's when I heard the crash from across the shop. My shop mate had been on a ladder getting some wood off of the storage rack. We found him on the floor on his back, twisted up in a pile of wood and the ladder. He was unconscious and bleeding badly from the back of his head. Called 911. We got all the wood/ladder moved off of him and I rolled him to his side and applied pressure to his wound to stop the bleeding. I kept talking to him and he came to, and was totally incoherent for a couple minutes. He started to make some sense after a couple minutes, but had no idea what happened. The paramedics arrived within 10 minutes. They put a neck brace on him and got him sitting up for a minute, but he was very nauseous. They then put him on a gurney and took him out to the ambulance where they checked him out further. Ended up at HCMC, a level one trauma center. CT scan showed a brain bleed and skull fractures. His cognitive test results were good. Hoping for the best. He may be there a while. I shudder to think about if he would have been in the shop alone.?

Please check your risk factors. Ask for help when you need it. Your friends and family want you around.
Jason
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


 

That’s a good reminder, thanks Jason. When Apple came out with their series 4 Apple Watch with fall detection both my wife and I got them and had my 90+ Yr old parents buy them as well. If the watch detects a fall, it ask if your ok, if you don’t respond within 60 seconds it will call 911 and give them your gps location and call the emergency contact person you list as well. Gives me some peace of mind knowing that if my parents fall I will be notified and yes, if I fell in my hobby shop my wife would be alerted ?
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Thanks Jason for sharing – that’s very sobering. Best wishes to your friend for a full and speedy recovery.

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One thing I would add to this discussion – in the commercial world, there are organizations like OSHA that set rules for safety equipment, shop layout/storage, certain procedures, and working hours. At home these don’t apply, or are not enforced. That doesn’t mean they aren’t important for home use, too. I sliced my thumb a year ago on my SawStop clearing an offcut during a spindown. The blade brake fired, and because of the nature of impact, I contacted the side of the blade, not the teeth, it actually pulled a tooth across my thumb and I got an arguably worse injury than if I would have contacted the front of the blade. The reason this happened – it was late and I was tired.

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Knowing when it’s time to turn the lights off and head home is really important.

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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> on behalf of Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...>
Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, January 22, 2021 at 8:50 AM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [FOG] A note of caution

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I know most of the folks in this group are hobbyists, and as such are probably in the shop alone most of the time. Please carry your phone on your person at all times in case of an accident.

Yesterday in the shop, there were three of us fortunately. I'm usually aware of my surroundings and am quick to offer help before someone asks for it. Not yesterday though. I was applying finish, had my earphones on in my own world. That's when I heard the crash from across the shop. My shop mate had been on a ladder getting some wood off of the storage rack. We found him on the floor on his back, twisted up in a pile of wood and the ladder. He was unconscious and bleeding badly from the back of his head. Called 911. We got all the wood/ladder moved off of him and I rolled him to his side and applied pressure to his wound to stop the bleeding. I kept talking to him and he came to, and was totally incoherent for a couple minutes. He started to make some sense after a couple minutes, but had no idea what happened. The paramedics arrived within 10 minutes. They put a neck brace on him and got him sitting up for a minute, but he was very nauseous. They then put him on a gurney and took him out to the ambulance where they checked him out further. Ended up at HCMC, a level one trauma center. CT scan showed a brain bleed and skull fractures. His cognitive test results were good. Hoping for the best. He may be there a while. I shudder to think about if he would have been in the shop alone.?

Please check your risk factors. Ask for help when you need it. Your friends and family want you around.
Jason
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


 

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Jason, thanks for this. I am guilty too often of doing things while alone in the shop that would be better with help.? As I get older and weaker I am better as having my son in law come over to lend a hand but just this week I was up on a ladder awkwardly getting lumber down. ?In hindsight I should not have done it alone.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jason Holtz
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 7:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FOG] A note of caution

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I know most of the folks in this group are hobbyists, and as such are probably in the shop alone most of the time. Please carry your phone on your person at all times in case of an accident.

Yesterday in the shop, there were three of us fortunately. I'm usually aware of my surroundings and am quick to offer help before someone asks for it. Not yesterday though. I was applying finish, had my earphones on in my own world. That's when I heard the crash from across the shop. My shop mate had been on a ladder getting some wood off of the storage rack. We found him on the floor on his back, twisted up in a pile of wood and the ladder. He was unconscious and bleeding badly from the back of his head. Called 911. We got all the wood/ladder moved off of him and I rolled him to his side and applied pressure to his wound to stop the bleeding. I kept talking to him and he came to, and was totally incoherent for a couple minutes. He started to make some sense after a couple minutes, but had no idea what happened. The paramedics arrived within 10 minutes. They put a neck brace on him and got him sitting up for a minute, but he was very nauseous. They then put him on a gurney and took him out to the ambulance where they checked him out further. Ended up at HCMC, a level one trauma center. CT scan showed a brain bleed and skull fractures. His cognitive test results were good. Hoping for the best. He may be there a while. I shudder to think about if he would have been in the shop alone.?

Please check your risk factors. Ask for help when you need it. Your friends and family want you around.
Jason
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


 

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Years ago my father was on a ladder on a lower roof working on the second story and the ladder slid out from under him.? This was in the days before cell phones. ??In the fall his leg was tangled in the ladder and it crushed his ankle.? He had to wait on the roof for 5 hours for my mother to get home to call for help. Agony.

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Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 8:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] A note of caution

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Jason,

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I pray your mate comes out of it fully recovered and as soon as possible.

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I learned this lesson when i was on the roof during constructing the addition behind my shop and my ladder fell. Yes, I know i need to secure it but it was on the opposite end of the prevailing wind side.

?

Another safety rule of our house, no chainsaw work when wife is not home. Does not matter if I have cell or not.

?

Imran


On Jan 22, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:

?I know most of the folks in this group are hobbyists, and as such are probably in the shop alone most of the time. Please carry your phone on your person at all times in case of an accident.

Yesterday in the shop, there were three of us fortunately. I'm usually aware of my surroundings and am quick to offer help before someone asks for it. Not yesterday though. I was applying finish, had my earphones on in my own world. That's when I heard the crash from across the shop. My shop mate had been on a ladder getting some wood off of the storage rack. We found him on the floor on his back, twisted up in a pile of wood and the ladder. He was unconscious and bleeding badly from the back of his head. Called 911. We got all the wood/ladder moved off of him and I rolled him to his side and applied pressure to his wound to stop the bleeding. I kept talking to him and he came to, and was totally incoherent for a couple minutes. He started to make some sense after a couple minutes, but had no idea what happened. The paramedics arrived within 10 minutes. They put a neck brace on him and got him sitting up for a minute, but he was very nauseous. They then put him on a gurney and took him out to the ambulance where they checked him out further. Ended up at HCMC, a level one trauma center. CT scan showed a brain bleed and skull fractures. His cognitive test results were good. Hoping for the best. He may be there a while. I shudder to think about if he would have been in the shop alone.?

Please check your risk factors. Ask for help when you need it. Your friends and family want you around.
Jason
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


 

Jason,

Wishing your friend a speedy recovery and he was fortunate to have his colleagues around to administer aid quickly.? One simply cannot be too careful especially in home/hobby shops especially as we get older...take a breather if your frustrated or tired, ask for help, or just walk away til tomorrow.? ?


 

Thanks for the well?wishes. I will pass them along. He is stable this morning, with a killer headache. They will be keeping him a while to monitor the bleeding.

TJ, good reminder. It's good to listen to yourself. I always seem to know beforehand when I'm about to do something stupid. Sometimes I can't focus on things, I just leave and come back later. Or tomorrow.?

I see the value of the Apple watch now. I don't know if I can bring myself to buy one though. Hopefully Android watches copy that feature.

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765

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J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


 

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Hope he has a full recovery.?

I too bought an Apple Watch for this fall detection feature, but have since learned there are apps you can install on your phone that provides the same or very similar capability.?

Steve


On Jan 22, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:

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Thanks for the well?wishes. I will pass them along. He is stable this morning, with a killer headache. They will be keeping him a while to monitor the bleeding.

TJ, good reminder. It's good to listen to yourself. I always seem to know beforehand when I'm about to do something stupid. Sometimes I can't focus on things, I just leave and come back later. Or tomorrow.?

I see the value of the Apple watch now. I don't know if I can bring myself to buy one though. Hopefully Android watches copy that feature.

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765

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J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


 

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These are scary but important reminders. ?I have too many times thought, ?wow that was stupid and I am lucky I got away with that. ?Usually it is also at the end of the day, like others have mentioned, and even more specifically “the one last thing I'm going to do today.” ?I wish your colleage a speedy recovery! ?Thanks for the reminder. ?

Anthony?

On Jan 22, 2021, at 1:48 PM, KRPatel via <kamalsonal@...> wrote:

Jason,

Wishing your friend a speedy recovery and he was fortunate to have his colleagues around to administer aid quickly.? One simply cannot be too careful especially in home/hobby shops especially as we get older...take a breather if your frustrated or tired, ask for help, or just walk away til tomorr


 

Jason:

My best to your partner. I had a lift of sheet goods come down on me but was hung up on a milk crate and didn't pancake my legs. After that I have my phone with me always. Thanks for the wake up call. We can never be too careful.

Fred Rossi
StudioRossi.us

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 10:58 AM Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> wrote:

Years ago my father was on a ladder on a lower roof working on the second story and the ladder slid out from under him.? This was in the days before cell phones. ??In the fall his leg was tangled in the ladder and it crushed his ankle.? He had to wait on the roof for 5 hours for my mother to get home to call for help. Agony.

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of imranindiana via
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 8:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] A note of caution

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Jason,

?

I pray your mate comes out of it fully recovered and as soon as possible.

?

I learned this lesson when i was on the roof during constructing the addition behind my shop and my ladder fell. Yes, I know i need to secure it but it was on the opposite end of the prevailing wind side.

?

Another safety rule of our house, no chainsaw work when wife is not home. Does not matter if I have cell or not.

?

Imran


On Jan 22, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:

?I know most of the folks in this group are hobbyists, and as such are probably in the shop alone most of the time. Please carry your phone on your person at all times in case of an accident.

Yesterday in the shop, there were three of us fortunately. I'm usually aware of my surroundings and am quick to offer help before someone asks for it. Not yesterday though. I was applying finish, had my earphones on in my own world. That's when I heard the crash from across the shop. My shop mate had been on a ladder getting some wood off of the storage rack. We found him on the floor on his back, twisted up in a pile of wood and the ladder. He was unconscious and bleeding badly from the back of his head. Called 911. We got all the wood/ladder moved off of him and I rolled him to his side and applied pressure to his wound to stop the bleeding. I kept talking to him and he came to, and was totally incoherent for a couple minutes. He started to make some sense after a couple minutes, but had no idea what happened. The paramedics arrived within 10 minutes. They put a neck brace on him and got him sitting up for a minute, but he was very nauseous. They then put him on a gurney and took him out to the ambulance where they checked him out further. Ended up at HCMC, a level one trauma center. CT scan showed a brain bleed and skull fractures. His cognitive test results were good. Hoping for the best. He may be there a while. I shudder to think about if he would have been in the shop alone.?

Please check your risk factors. Ask for help when you need it. Your friends and family want you around.
Jason
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406



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Fred Rossi
617.905.6497


Roger S
 

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Not workshop related but here in the UK a guy I know was working on his roof renovating a derelict house. By himself. ? That evening, his wife became concerned that he'd not yet come home some hours later and so went to look for him. ?She found the house. ?Collapsed. ? Buried him. ?He survived. ?Luckily. ?The mobile phone didn't help him. ?No signal coverage.

Roger

On 22 Jan 2021, at 19:42, Fred Rossi <fred@...> wrote:

Jason:

My best to your partner. I had a lift of sheet goods come down on me but was hung up on a milk crate and didn't pancake my legs. After that I have my phone with me always. Thanks for the wake up call. We can never be too careful.

Fred Rossi

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 10:58 AM Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> wrote:

Years ago my father was on a ladder on a lower roof working on the second story and the ladder slid out from under him.? This was in the days before cell phones. ??In the fall his leg was tangled in the ladder and it crushed his ankle.? He had to wait on the roof for 5 hours for my mother to get home to call for help. Agony.

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of imranindiana via
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 8:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] A note of caution

?

Jason,

?

I pray your mate comes out of it fully recovered and as soon as possible.

?

I learned this lesson when i was on the roof during constructing the addition behind my shop and my ladder fell. Yes, I know i need to secure it but it was on the opposite end of the prevailing wind side.

?

Another safety rule of our house, no chainsaw work when wife is not home. Does not matter if I have cell or not.

?

Imran


On Jan 22, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:

?I know most of the folks in this group are hobbyists, and as such are probably in the shop alone most of the time. Please carry your phone on your person at all times in case of an accident.

Yesterday in the shop, there were three of us fortunately. I'm usually aware of my surroundings and am quick to offer help before someone asks for it. Not yesterday though. I was applying finish, had my earphones on in my own world. That's when I heard the crash from across the shop. My shop mate had been on a ladder getting some wood off of the storage rack. We found him on the floor on his back, twisted up in a pile of wood and the ladder. He was unconscious and bleeding badly from the back of his head. Called 911. We got all the wood/ladder moved off of him and I rolled him to his side and applied pressure to his wound to stop the bleeding. I kept talking to him and he came to, and was totally incoherent for a couple minutes. He started to make some sense after a couple minutes, but had no idea what happened. The paramedics arrived within 10 minutes. They put a neck brace on him and got him sitting up for a minute, but he was very nauseous. They then put him on a gurney and took him out to the ambulance where they checked him out further. Ended up at HCMC, a level one trauma center. CT scan showed a brain bleed and skull fractures. His cognitive test results were good. Hoping for the best. He may be there a while. I shudder to think about if he would have been in the shop alone.?

Please check your risk factors. Ask for help when you need it. Your friends and family want you around.
Jason
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406





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Fred Rossi
617.905.6497



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yah? weird shit? can happen.

The other day while? manhandling some large 2.5" thick walnut slabs on the bandsaw? I? lost my balance the room started spinning I had to let go the lumber and grab something to remain upright.

Turns? out there are little calcium crystals in the inner ear that can come loose and? out of nowhere you can't balance.? the room spins and? you are really? disoriented.

There are exercises? one can do to remove the loose crystals and? get them out from where they fell when they got dislodged ad? then you are golden again. takes all of a couple minutes. But man? it gives you absolutely? no warning.? One second everythign is fine and the next is ain't.



On 1/22/21 9:50 AM, Jason Holtz wrote:

I know most of the folks in this group are hobbyists, and as such are probably in the shop alone most of the time. Please carry your phone on your person at all times in case of an accident.

Yesterday in the shop, there were three of us fortunately. I'm usually aware of my surroundings and am quick to offer help before someone asks for it. Not yesterday though. I was applying finish, had my earphones on in my own world. That's when I heard the crash from across the shop. My shop mate had been on a ladder getting some wood off of the storage rack. We found him on the floor on his back, twisted up in a pile of wood and the ladder. He was unconscious and bleeding badly from the back of his head. Called 911. We got all the wood/ladder moved off of him and I rolled him to his side and applied pressure to his wound to stop the bleeding. I kept talking to him and he came to, and was totally incoherent for a couple minutes. He started to make some sense after a couple minutes, but had no idea what happened. The paramedics arrived within 10 minutes. They put a neck brace on him and got him sitting up for a minute, but he was very nauseous. They then put him on a gurney and took him out to the ambulance where they checked him out further. Ended up at HCMC, a level one trauma center. CT scan showed a brain bleed and skull fractures. His cognitive test results were good. Hoping for the best. He may be there a while. I shudder to think about if he would have been in the shop alone.?

Please check your risk factors. Ask for help when you need it. Your friends and family want you around.
Jason
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


 

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Cliff,? I had? that Vertigo thing on and off for a year.? In hospital twice and multiple attacks.? Working on a shaper in storage building and just turned it off in time to hit the ground and look for something to barf into for the next three hours.? Wife found me at 3 am. ? Five years later my balance is still compromised but I have not had a major issue with the crystals.? If I bend over and stare too hard at something for long I start to feel crummy so all my work tables and machines are set so I remain pretty upright.? Staring at the ground is bad but using it as an excuse not to shovel snow or God forbid vacuum is great.? Dave


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq. <rohrabacher@...>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 6:40 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] A note of caution
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yah? weird shit? can happen.

The other day while? manhandling some large 2.5" thick walnut slabs on the bandsaw? I? lost my balance the room started spinning I had to let go the lumber and grab something to remain upright.

Turns? out there are little calcium crystals in the inner ear that can come loose and? out of nowhere you can't balance.? the room spins and? you are really? disoriented.

There are exercises? one can do to remove the loose crystals and? get them out from where they fell when they got dislodged ad? then you are golden again. takes all of a couple minutes. But man? it gives you absolutely? no warning.? One second everythign is fine and the next is ain't.



On 1/22/21 9:50 AM, Jason Holtz wrote:

I know most of the folks in this group are hobbyists, and as such are probably in the shop alone most of the time. Please carry your phone on your person at all times in case of an accident.

Yesterday in the shop, there were three of us fortunately. I'm usually aware of my surroundings and am quick to offer help before someone asks for it. Not yesterday though. I was applying finish, had my earphones on in my own world. That's when I heard the crash from across the shop. My shop mate had been on a ladder getting some wood off of the storage rack. We found him on the floor on his back, twisted up in a pile of wood and the ladder. He was unconscious and bleeding badly from the back of his head. Called 911. We got all the wood/ladder moved off of him and I rolled him to his side and applied pressure to his wound to stop the bleeding. I kept talking to him and he came to, and was totally incoherent for a couple minutes. He started to make some sense after a couple minutes, but had no idea what happened. The paramedics arrived within 10 minutes. They put a neck brace on him and got him sitting up for a minute, but he was very nauseous. They then put him on a gurney and took him out to the ambulance where they checked him out further. Ended up at HCMC, a level one trauma center. CT scan showed a brain bleed and skull fractures. His cognitive test results were good. Hoping for the best. He may be there a while. I shudder to think about if he would have been in the shop alone.?

Please check your risk factors. Ask for help when you need it. Your friends and family want you around.
Jason
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


 

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Sorry to hear this, the whole grabbing lumber off a rack on a ladder is risky business - a few months ?back I was on the third step (top one) of one of those lightweight aluminum step stools that have the wide platform at the top but the other 2 steps are narrow, i grabbed an 8/4 x 8” x 9’ piece of Walnut of the top rack above my head and before I knew it I was on the floor, couldn’t even move for like what seamed 30 min. I was pretty lucky I didn’t wack my head on my workbench as i just missed it, I fell backwards and my hip landed on a corner of the bandsaw table before I hit the ground. Had my phone but it was on the workbench and I couldn’t get up, seriously thought i was in big trouble as I couldn’t get up. Pretty sure what happened was when I picked up the board it was off center and the inertia from it just flung me off the ladder.?

I think , at least for me who originally started out on their own at 19 did a lot of everything on there own in the beginning, there were no limits if it needed to get done it did now that I am getting older (50+, boo-hoo) I have found that I need to be a bit more careful in what I take on by myself (see above)...



Regards, Mark



On Jan 22, 2021, at 6:40 PM, Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq. <rohrabacher@...> wrote:

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yah? weird shit? can happen.

The other day while? manhandling some large 2.5" thick walnut slabs on the bandsaw? I? lost my balance the room started spinning I had to let go the lumber and grab something to remain upright.

Turns? out there are little calcium crystals in the inner ear that can come loose and? out of nowhere you can't balance.? the room spins and? you are really? disoriented.

There are exercises? one can do to remove the loose crystals and? get them out from where they fell when they got dislodged ad? then you are golden again. takes all of a couple minutes. But man? it gives you absolutely? no warning.? One second everythign is fine and the next is ain't.



On 1/22/21 9:50 AM, Jason Holtz wrote:

I know most of the folks in this group are hobbyists, and as such are probably in the shop alone most of the time. Please carry your phone on your person at all times in case of an accident.

Yesterday in the shop, there were three of us fortunately. I'm usually aware of my surroundings and am quick to offer help before someone asks for it. Not yesterday though. I was applying finish, had my earphones on in my own world. That's when I heard the crash from across the shop. My shop mate had been on a ladder getting some wood off of the storage rack. We found him on the floor on his back, twisted up in a pile of wood and the ladder. He was unconscious and bleeding badly from the back of his head. Called 911. We got all the wood/ladder moved off of him and I rolled him to his side and applied pressure to his wound to stop the bleeding. I kept talking to him and he came to, and was totally incoherent for a couple minutes. He started to make some sense after a couple minutes, but had no idea what happened. The paramedics arrived within 10 minutes. They put a neck brace on him and got him sitting up for a minute, but he was very nauseous. They then put him on a gurney and took him out to the ambulance where they checked him out further. Ended up at HCMC, a level one trauma center. CT scan showed a brain bleed and skull fractures. His cognitive test results were good. Hoping for the best. He may be there a while. I shudder to think about if he would have been in the shop alone.?

Please check your risk factors. Ask for help when you need it. Your friends and family want you around.
Jason
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


 

Wow, that's scary Mark. I wonder if something similar happened to my shop mate Craig. Given how we found him, with lumber both under him and on top of him, and his leg twisted up in the ladder. We will likely never know.

I too am in the age group (still under 50 by a couple) where I largely feel invincible. This was a sobering reminder that doesn't matter. Craig just turned 60 and is in better shape than I am. His condition is stable, the brain bleeding is under control and no surgery is going to be required. His cognitive tests look good. He will be in the hospital at least a few more days while they monitor things.

We may have to reassess how we store lumber and make accessing it via the forklift easier.

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture

3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765

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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


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On 1/22/21 7:38 PM, David Kumm wrote:
on and off for a year.? In hospital twice and multiple attacks.

OUCH? That's?? way more than I had


 

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I feel bad for the people with positional vertigo.? Always there waiting , a wrong move and you are non functional.? Dave


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On 1/22/21 7:38 PM, David Kumm wrote:
> on and off for a year.? In hospital twice and multiple attacks.


OUCH? That's?? way more than I had







 

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