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Bare Naked Tstud

 

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if you have an interest in framing or plan to build a house. not a brand new product but they have added to the mix.


this is not something that i stay up on but cutting cripples at 5 deg to get window sill to slope out is brilliant. we build 20 yrs ago and they did use cedar beveled window sills. one would think that this would have been done a decades ago.

imran
 
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Thanks, imran.

Mark Wille is a great person to chat with.? He is also an avid contributor to the weekly Passive House Accelerator and Cooper Live, and regular on BS & Beer (building science) - surrounding building science including window, offsite construction topics.? There are many architects, builders, suppliers to meet on each one of these, too.

Here are some event links and Mark's contact info.







Chris
 

Thanks, Imran!
We just built a couple of years ago but had I known about these I would have looked seriously at using them. Good to know.
Cheers
Eric

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 6:25 AM imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:
if you have an interest in framing or plan to build a house. not a brand new product but they have added to the mix.


this is not something that i stay up on but cutting cripples at 5 deg to get window sill to slope out is brilliant. we build 20 yrs ago and they did use cedar beveled window sills. one would think that this would have been done a decades ago.

imran
 

Great idea. These would be nice for running electrical, but maybe harder to run a hole saw through them for plumbing.? I also wonder about cost? All this new technology is great, but comes at a cost. If money is no object then it's great, but some clients might find it hard to spend money on things in the walls that will never be seen.
 

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i think it was a caption that said, price on par with high end option. so i assume, equal to engineered studs. last i checked engineered stud was about 75%-80% more than premium stud and about double of lower cost studs.

i have no clue but i wonder what is the lowest cost option to avoid thermal bridging. one only need to use these on the exterior walls for that purpose.

imran

On Dec 3, 2020, at 1:44 PM, tomruth@... wrote:

?Great idea. These would be nice for running electrical, but maybe harder to run a hole saw through them for plumbing.? I also wonder about cost? All this new technology is great, but comes at a cost. If money is no object then it's great, but some clients might find it hard to spend money on things in the walls that will never be seen.

 

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Imran,

We tried out the bare naked T-stud on a project a couple months ago, so I have some thoughts to share. ?Like me, my client’s background is in high tech, so he was eager to use this product and frankly I was too. ?At the time (August) the timber industry was in chaos because of the fires in the west and prices for commodity premium timber products were almost double what they had been. ?So the T-stud was about 20 percent more than the equivalent premium 2x6, but no one could get 2x6’s at the time, so the decision was pretty easy. ?The application here was knee walls for top story where the insulation advantage was important. ?

Of course there was some confusion. ?The framers were initially puzzled, but quickly got the hang of it. ?The electrician gasped “Wow this is cool, I can run Romex without drilling tons of holes.” ?The plumber was less enthused scratching his head how to drill for angled vent stacks. ?The real twist was the building inspector needing all kinds of documentation and insisting that “If you want to run Romex through these, you either have to drill, or staple the Romex to the back of the in-facing stud.” ?That’s when the electrician lost enthusiasm - getting a staple on the back of the stud is not so easy. ?Local inspectors can be a real PITA on new stuff like this. ?The spray-foam insulation crew had no issues doing their usual thing. ?Overall it worked great and the additional R-value was a welcome enhancement. ?

As for angling the cripple for windows, I can’t remember the last time we didn’t angle the sill cripple.

If you like Matt Risinger’s videos, you should check out the Essential Craftsman series. ?Soup to nuts home build from buying the land to building the house - a project totally funded by Patreon and YouTube advertising. ?The host, Scott Wadsworth, is a dead ringer for my father and a great teacher. ?He’s an excellent example of an experienced craftsman giving back to the community. ? ??


David Best

https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/





On Dec 3, 2020, at 5:25 AM, imranindiana via <imranindiana@...> wrote:

if you have an interest in framing or plan to build a house. not a brand new product but they have added to the mix.


this is not something that i stay up on but cutting cripples at 5 deg to get window sill to slope out is brilliant. we build 20 yrs ago and they did use cedar beveled window sills. one would think that this would have been done a decades ago.

imran
 

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David,

Why am i not surprised that you are up on this. inspectors are a pain. that is one thing about living out of city, 20 yrs ago, only inspection i needed was septic. the storage room i am finishing up will require an inspection but i expect it to be uneventful ??

i enjoyed the video and have subscribed to EC. thanks for sharing.

Imran

On Dec 3, 2020, at 5:07 PM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:

?Imran,

We tried out the bare naked T-stud on a project a couple months ago, so I have some thoughts to share. ?Like me, my client’s background is in high tech, so he was eager to use this product and frankly I was too. ?At the time (August) the timber industry was in chaos because of the fires in the west and prices for commodity premium timber products were almost double what they had been. ?So the T-stud was about 20 percent more than the equivalent premium 2x6, but no one could get 2x6’s at the time, so the decision was pretty easy. ?The application here was knee walls for top story where the insulation advantage was important. ?

Of course there was some confusion. ?The framers were initially puzzled, but quickly got the hang of it. ?The electrician gasped “Wow this is cool, I can run Romex without drilling tons of holes.” ?The plumber was less enthused scratching his head how to drill for angled vent stacks. ?The real twist was the building inspector needing all kinds of documentation and insisting that “If you want to run Romex through these, you either have to drill, or staple the Romex to the back of the in-facing stud.” ?That’s when the electrician lost enthusiasm - getting a staple on the back of the stud is not so easy. ?Local inspectors can be a real PITA on new stuff like this. ?The spray-foam insulation crew had no issues doing their usual thing. ?Overall it worked great and the additional R-value was a welcome enhancement. ?

As for angling the cripple for windows, I can’t remember the last time we didn’t angle the sill cripple.

If you like Matt Risinger’s videos, you should check out the Essential Craftsman series. ?Soup to nuts home build from buying the land to building the house - a project totally funded by Patreon and YouTube advertising. ?The host, Scott Wadsworth, is a dead ringer for my father and a great teacher. ?He’s an excellent example of an experienced craftsman giving back to the community. ? ??


David Best

https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/





On Dec 3, 2020, at 5:25 AM, imranindiana via <imranindiana@...> wrote:

if you have an interest in framing or plan to build a house. not a brand new product but they have added to the mix.


this is not something that i stay up on but cutting cripples at 5 deg to get window sill to slope out is brilliant. we build 20 yrs ago and they did use cedar beveled window sills. one would think that this would have been done a decades ago.

imran
 

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On Dec 3, 2020, at 4:07 PM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:

?Imran,

We tried out the bare naked T-stud on a project a couple months ago, so I have some thoughts to share. ?Like me, my client’s background is in high tech, so he was eager to use this product and frankly I was too. ?At the time (August) the timber industry was in chaos because of the fires in the west and prices for commodity premium timber products were almost double what they had been. ?So the T-stud was about 20 percent more than the equivalent premium 2x6, but no one could get 2x6’s at the time, so the decision was pretty easy. ?The application here was knee walls for top story where the insulation advantage was important. ?

Of course there was some confusion. ?The framers were initially puzzled, but quickly got the hang of it. ?The electrician gasped “Wow this is cool, I can run Romex without drilling tons of holes.” ?The plumber was less enthused scratching his head how to drill for angled vent stacks. ?The real twist was the building inspector needing all kinds of documentation and insisting that “If you want to run Romex through these, you either have to drill, or staple the Romex to the back of the in-facing stud.” ?That’s when the electrician lost enthusiasm - getting a staple on the back of the stud is not so easy. ?Local inspectors can be a real PITA on new stuff like this. ?The spray-foam insulation crew had no issues doing their usual thing. ?Overall it worked great and the additional R-value was a welcome enhancement. ?

As for angling the cripple for windows, I can’t remember the last time we didn’t angle the sill cripple.

If you like Matt Risinger’s videos, you should check out the Essential Craftsman series. ?Soup to nuts home build from buying the land to building the house - a project totally funded by Patreon and YouTube advertising. ?The host, Scott Wadsworth, is a dead ringer for my father and a great teacher. ?He’s an excellent example of an experienced craftsman giving back to the community. ? ??


David Best

https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/





On Dec 3, 2020, at 5:25 AM, imranindiana via <imranindiana@...> wrote:

if you have an interest in framing or plan to build a house. not a brand new product but they have added to the mix.


this is not something that i stay up on but cutting cripples at 5 deg to get window sill to slope out is brilliant. we build 20 yrs ago and they did use cedar beveled window sills. one would think that this would have been done a decades ago.

imran

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