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I know there has been a lot of interest in Aigner accessories for Felder equipment. I have a CF741 combo machine and am wondering how far I can go with Aigner. It looks like the Integral fence and the Bowmould are home runs. I would be interested in the Centrex as well as a back fence. I don't know if there is a way to use the back fence with the sliding table being at the edge versus the Aigner rails it shows in the catalog it attaches to? Does anyone know what needs ordering on the Centrex to get it to work with the CF741 ie riser blocks, support plates etc?
Many thanks in advance, Michael Tagge
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?Integral fence and the Bowmould are definitely high on the list for must haves. I have and use both but the Centrex while interesting is not on my list but I use a Power feeder a lot. I kick off the Felder version of the Centrex shortly after getting the machine in 2011. But everyone's needs are different. Don't know the back fence you are referring to. Pressure modules are also extremely useful.
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I know there has been a lot of interest in Aigner accessories for Felder equipment. I have a CF741 combo machine and am wondering how far I can go with Aigner. It looks like the Integral fence and the Bowmould are home runs. I would be interested in the Centrex as well as a back fence. I don't know if there is a way to use the back fence with the sliding table being at the edge versus the Aigner rails it shows in the catalog it attaches to? Does anyone know what needs ordering on the Centrex to get it to work with the CF741 ie riser blocks, support plates etc?
Many thanks in advance, Michael Tagge
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If you're going to order a crap ton of Aigner I'd recommend ordering from:
I made a big order a while back and the pricing is very good compared to what you can get over? here.? Even after adding in the shipping cost.
Dave
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 7:14 PM, John Kee jmkserv@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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?Integral fence and the Bowmould are definitely high on the list for must haves. I have and use both but the Centrex while interesting is not on my list but I use a Power feeder a lot. I kick off the Felder version of the Centrex shortly after getting the machine in 2011. But everyone's needs are different. Don't know the back fence you are referring to. Pressure modules are also extremely useful.
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Maybe back fence Michaels talks is outboard fence?
Steve has a home made version of the outboard fence for his format 4 shaper,?.
James
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?Integral fence and the Bowmould are definitely high on the list for must haves. I have and use both but the Centrex while interesting is not on my list but I use a Power feeder a lot. I kick off the Felder version of the Centrex shortly after getting the machine in 2011. But everyone's needs are different. Don't know the back fence you are referring to. Pressure modules are also extremely useful.
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Yes, the outboard fence Steve shows in his video is the idea. Aigner has one that uses their rails to attach, at least from what I gather from the catalog available on werkzeuge fuchs http://www.werkzeuge-fuchs.de/kataloge/aigner_low_res.pdf page 74 Steve shows it nicely in use for a full thickness profile cut. I guess you might be able to finagle it using differential between infeed and outfeed fences but with an outboard, with a good reference edge, you can do a combination "rip" and profiling in the same action. Rangate has a similar video up in their demo of the deep glue line cutterhead from Alpine Workshops? .?
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FYI, bunch of us ordered Aigner stuff from
at much lower prices than in USA. They normally run an 8% discount which helps offset the shipping charges.
It would be a PITA if there was an issue with the item but no one here has voiced any issues with there orders.
Imran
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Anyone know if you can get the fences that are drilled out for our machines from this vendor?
If so anyone purchase them and have a idea what the final cost was after shipping so forth and so on.
The fences have been high on my list for quite some time and I just keep putting them off. Don¡¯t know why considering how much of my income I continually spend on tools were to week n]month to month year to year..
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018, imranindiana@... [felder-woodworking] < felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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FYI, bunch of us ordered Aigner stuff from
at much lower prices than in USA. They normally run an 8% discount which helps offset the shipping charges.
It would be a PITA if there was an issue with the item but no one here has voiced any issues with there orders.
Imran
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If I might throw a question,
I have a new Kappa sitting in the crate that should have had a Aigner fence with it but I believe that it did not get placed when i ordered the saw. My error for not checking the order.
As I want it, does the saw need to be modified for it or is it adaptable to the existing configuration the saw was built to. Some how I remember that the saw had to be machined specifically for the Aigner fence.
But then again I cant remember what I did yesterday.
Glen ?
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From: patrick walsh pwalsh651@... [felder-woodworking]
To: felder-woodworking
Sent: Wed, Jan 10, 2018 6:04 pm
Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Aigner shaper accessories on Felder Combos
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Anyone know if you can get the fences that are drilled out for our machines from this vendor?
If so anyone purchase them and have a idea what the final cost was after shipping so forth and so on.
The fences have been high on my list for quite some time and I just keep putting them off. Don¡¯t know why considering how much of my income I continually spend on tools were to week n]month to month year to year..
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018, imranindiana@... [felder-woodworking] < felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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FYI, bunch of us ordered Aigner stuff from
at much lower prices than in USA. They normally run an 8% discount which helps offset the shipping charges.
It would be a PITA if there was an issue with the item but no one here has voiced any issues with there orders.
Imran
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Sorry for duplicate info but the other msgs were not there when I wrote. I am out of US with not the best connection but it could be that I need to reload manually by clicking "conversation" to get the latest msgs.
Imran
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There was a thread named 'KF700sp accessorie' from?last year, talking about all the useful Aigner accessories including how to mount the Aigner thickness stop on Felder sliding table.?
David Best posted a picture modifying the Felder P-Channel mounting block on his flickr forum,?.
Looks like Aigner thickness stop is back on werkzeuge fuchs website.
James
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Yes, the outboard fence Steve shows in his video is the idea. Aigner has one that uses their rails to attach, at least from what I gather from the catalog available on werkzeuge fuchs page 74 Steve shows it nicely in use for a full thickness profile cut. I guess you might be able to finagle it using differential between infeed and outfeed fences but with an outboard, with a good reference edge, you can do a combination "rip" and profiling in the same action. Rangate has a similar video up in their demo of the deep glue line cutterhead from Alpine Workshops? .?
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This is the correct link David Best posted about modifying the P-channel mounting block, so you can attach the Aigner thickness stop on the Felder sliding table.
Jamnes
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 9:51 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote: There was a thread named 'KF700sp accessorie' from?last year, talking about all the useful Aigner accessories including how to mount the Aigner thickness stop on Felder sliding table.?
David Best posted a picture modifying the Felder P-Channel mounting block on his flickr forum,?.
Looks like Aigner thickness stop is back on werkzeuge fuchs website.
James
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Glen,
I do not have your saw or the Aigner fence but IIRC, the recommendation was to drill and thread the saw/shaper cast iron top to match standard Aigner fence. This will allow it to be moved to a diff machine or would be easier to sell if no longer needed.
Imran
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I do not think they will drill the fence for you.
The price on their website includes 19% VAT, so your cost is their website price / 1.19 plus the shipping. The shipping cost varies depending on the weight of the items.
You can just place the order on their website, if your order goes through, it means your items are not over weight, so you will be charged with standard 139.99 euro shipping charge. If your order does not go through, you can contact them, or wait, then you will get a paypal payment request which will include the total cost with the updated shipping charge, if you are ok with it, you can pay thru paypal, then wait for your order.
James
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Anyone know if you can get the fences that are drilled out for our machines from this vendor?
If so anyone purchase them and have a idea what the final cost was after shipping so forth and so on.
The fences have been high on my list for quite some time and I just keep putting them off. Don¡¯t know why considering how much of my income I continually spend on tools were to week n]month to month year to year.. On Wednesday, January 10, 2018, imranindiana@... [felder-woodworking] < felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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FYI, bunch of us ordered Aigner stuff from
at much lower prices than in USA. They normally run an 8% discount which helps offset the shipping charges.
It would be a PITA if there was an issue with the item but no one here has voiced any issues with there orders.
Imran
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James,
So if I¡¯m figurimg right I might save a couple hunter bucks but then I need to drill and tap my new fence plates?
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I do not think they will drill the fence for you.
The price on their website includes 19% VAT, so your cost is their website price / 1.19 plus the shipping. The shipping cost varies depending on the weight of the items.
You can just place the order on their website, if your order goes through, it means your items are not over weight, so you will be charged with standard 139.99 euro shipping charge. If your order does not go through, you can contact them, or wait, then you will get a paypal payment request which will include the total cost with the updated shipping charge, if you are ok with it, you can pay thru paypal, then wait for your order.
James
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I'll find the pictures I took of my Aigner fence.? It's a super easy mod.
Dave?
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James,
So if I¡¯m figurimg right I might save a couple hunter bucks but then I need to drill and tap my new fence plates?
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018, James Zhu james.zhu2@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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I do not think they will drill the fence for you.
The price on their website includes 19% VAT, so your cost is their website price / 1.19 plus the shipping. The shipping cost varies depending on the weight of the items.
You can just place the order on their website, if your order goes through, it means your items are not over weight, so you will be charged with standard 139..99 euro shipping charge. If your order does not go through, you can contact them, or wait, then you will get a paypal payment request which will include the total cost with the updated shipping charge, if you are ok with it, you can pay thru paypal, then wait for your order.
James
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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The outboard fence he¡¯s talking about (and which Stever Rowe made an alternative out of MDF) is called the ¡°Thickness Stop¡± - it¡¯s still available but no longer has the digital readout.
David Best
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Maybe back fence Michaels talks is outboard fence?
Steve has a home made version of the outboard fence for his format 4 shaper,?.
James
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Glen, which Aigner fence are you talking about? ? If you mean the Integral Fence, that¡¯s for a shaper not a saw and has no applicability to your Kappa. ? Please clarify.
David Best
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If I might throw a question,
I have a new Kappa sitting in the crate that should have had a Aigner fence with it but I believe that it did not get placed when i ordered the saw. My error for not checking the order.
As I want it, does the saw need to be modified for it or is it adaptable to the existing configuration the saw was built to. Some how I remember that the saw had to be machined specifically for the Aigner fence.
But then again I cant remember what I did yesterday.
Glen ??
-----Original Message----- From: patrick walsh ?pwalsh651@...?[felder-woodworking] < felder-woodworking@...> To: felder-woodworking < felder-woodworking@...> Sent: Wed, Jan 10, 2018 6:04 pm Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Aigner shaper accessories on Felder Combos ?Anyone know if you can get the fences that are drilled out for our machines from this vendor?
If so anyone purchase them and have a idea what the final cost was after shipping so forth and so on.
The fences have been high on my list for quite some time and I just keep putting them off. Don¡¯t know why considering how much of my income I continually spend on tools were to week n]month to month year to year... On Wednesday, January 10, 2018, ?imranindiana@...?[felder-woodworking] < felder-woodworking@...> wrote: ?FYI, bunch of us ordered Aigner stuff from?
at much lower prices than in USA. They normally run an 8% discount which helps offset the shipping charges.
It would be a PITA if there was an issue with the item but no one here has voiced any issues with there orders.
Imran
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Dave, did Herr Fuchs ever come through with a thickness stop shipment for you? ? He never got back to me even after I had John and Joe buttonhole Mr. Aigner at the show in Germany to clarify the part number for the newer non-DRO version. ? I¡¯d love to see a photo of it if you got one - the Fuchs web site now says it has ¡°analog measure unit¡± - whatever that means.
David Best
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If you're going to order a crap ton of Aigner I'd recommend ordering from:
I made a big order a while back and the pricing is very good compared to what you can get over? here.? Even after adding in the shipping cost.
Dave
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David, ?? I'll take a picture of my thickness stop tonight for you.? I've yet to use it and didn't notice if it had an "analog" measurement system.? At most it would have been etchings in the aluminum but I don't recall even that.
?? I wish I could spend more time in the shop but our embroidery business has exploded lately.
?? Have you progressed on deciding if you're going to market the Fritz and Franz? Dave
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Dave, did Herr Fuchs ever come through with a thickness stop shipment for you? ? He never got back to me even after I had John and Joe buttonhole Mr. Aigner at the show in Germany to clarify the part number for the newer non-DRO version. ? I¡¯d love to see a photo of it if you got one - the Fuchs web site now says it has ¡°analog measure unit¡± - whatever that means.
David Best
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If you're going to order a crap ton of Aigner I'd recommend ordering from:
I made a big order a while back and the pricing is very good compared to what you can get over? here.? Even after adding in the shipping cost.
Dave
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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imran
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