Bowmouldmaster Install Issue

imranindiana · 2024-10-29T07:01:24-07:00

Finally installing the bowmouldmaster on my KF700. FWIW, it is the larger of the 2 hoods supplied by Aigner. I used the template provided by Aigner to locate the 2 holes I need to drill and tap

Bowmouldmaster Install Issue

imran All Messages By This Member #137832 开云体育 Finally installing the bowmouldmaster on my KF700. FWIW, it is the larger of the 2 hoods supplied by Aigner. I used the template provided by Aigner to locate the 2 holes I need to drill and tap (M12-1.75). These will be used to secure the hood to the cast iron table. There is an existing hole in the casting which will not allow me to drill the left side hole in the location indicated by the template. Picture below shows the left side hole’s punched location and the existing hole with black plug. The dot pointed to by the red arrow is the punch mark. I can move both holes ~3/4” towards the rear and verified that I can clamp the hood throughout the required range as shown in the 2 pics below. I also checked the shallow curved stop even though only the tighter curve stop is shown in the pics. I may need to drill another set if I need to move the hood forward for large dia cutters but I am hoping that one set will do. Before I start drilling, I just wanted to run this past folks who have experience using this hood. You all see any issues? Imran Malik
Matt Tebo All Messages By This Member #137833 You could just rotate the template. ?I know the hood won’t be square to the front of the table, but that’s a solution I think. ?The curved work used with that hood won’t care if the hood is slightly skewed to the table or not.
Tom Gensmer All Messages By This Member #137835 Hi Imran,? ? I had a similar issue when drilling for the 220mm Bowmould on my TF-130. As Teboma suggests, the easiest solution is to simply rotate the template to avoid existing obstructions.? ? In my case, the limiting factor was the large opening in the table, which precluded rotating the template, so I just shifted it back enough to clear the opening.? ? ? -- Tom Gensmer Heritage Home Renewals, LLC Minneapolis, MN
imran All Messages By This Member #137836 开云体育 Thanks Teboma. Rotating is definitely an option. I should have mentioned that I eyeballed it but my OCD, won’t allow it. Hi Tom, Thanks for sharing your experience. By omission, I assume you have not discovered any issues. If something came up I could do another set towards the front. Imran Malik toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Oct 27, 2024, at 8:14?AM, Tom Gensmer via groups.io <tom@...> wrote: ? Hi Imran,? ? I had a similar issue when drilling for the 220mm Bowmould on my TF-130. As Teboma suggests, the easiest solution is to simply rotate the template to avoid existing obstructions.? ? In my case, the limiting factor was the large opening in the table, which precluded rotating the template, so I just shifted it back enough to clear the opening.? ? ? -- Tom Gensmer Heritage Home Renewals, LLC Minneapolis, MN
David P. Best All Messages By This Member #137837 开云体育 Imran - from page 226 in the Survival Guide - ?this would be for ?KF700, but the F700 is similar. ?Trunion bolts only exist on pre-X-Roll type machines which I believe is what you have. ?Check the webbing positions on the underside of the cast iron top before drilling - you don’t want to drill into the webs : If you plan on using tooling with the BowmouldMaster in conjunction with the sliding table and a crosscut fence, then I would not recommend rotating the template. ?Better to drill two sets if necessary to get the full position flexibility of the hood. ?I often use the BowmouldMaster with counter-profile tooling and a crosscut fence because the dust extraction is so much better with that hood. ? David Best DBestWorkshop@... https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/ https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Oct 27, 2024, at 6:54?AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote: Thanks Teboma. Rotating is definitely an option. I should have mentioned that I eyeballed it but my OCD, won’t allow it. Hi Tom, Thanks for sharing your experience. By omission, I assume you have not discovered any issues. If something came up I could do another set towards the front. Imran Malik On Oct 27, 2024, at 8:14?AM, Tom Gensmer via groups.io <tom@...> wrote: ? Hi Imran,? ? I had a similar issue when drilling for the 220mm Bowmould on my TF-130. As Teboma suggests, the easiest solution is to simply rotate the template to avoid existing obstructions.? ? In my case, the limiting factor was the large opening in the table, which precluded rotating the template, so I just shifted it back enough to clear the opening.? ? ? -- Tom Gensmer Heritage Home Renewals, LLC Minneapolis, MN
[email protected] All Messages By This Member #137838 Unrelated question, What is the Bowmoulder dust port size?
imran All Messages By This Member #137839 开云体育 Nate, In my case, the hose from my std. shaper hood also fits this larger BMM hood. There is a smaller BMM hood as well and I don’t know it’s port size. Probably mentioned in the survival guide. Imran Malik toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Oct 27, 2024, at 10:15?AM, netanel.belgazal via groups.io <netanel.belgazal@...> wrote: ? Unrelated question, What is the Bowmoulder dust port size?
David P. Best All Messages By This Member #137840 开云体育 120mm. See attached. ? The Aigner catalog is in the files section. David Best DBestWorkshop@... https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/ https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Oct 27, 2024, at 7:15?AM, netanel.belgazal via groups.io <netanel.belgazal@...> wrote: Unrelated question, What is the Bowmoulder dust port size? AignerCatalog - BowmouldMaster.pdf AignerCatalog - BowmouldMaster.pdf
imran All Messages By This Member #137841 开云体育 Hi David, Thanks for the reference. It never fails, I looked through the index (obviously not carefully enough) and the section 7 in survival guide before asking the question. Completely missed the installation provided in Section 10 ??♂? The great survival guide has all the answers if you are smart enough to look carefully. I will report if the webbing is any different than survival guide on my 2002 KF700. Imran Malik toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Oct 27, 2024, at 10:11?AM, David P. Best via groups.io <dbestworkshop@...> wrote: ?Imran - from page 226 in the Survival Guide - ?this would be for ?KF700, but the F700 is similar. ?Trunion bolts only exist on pre-X-Roll type machines which I believe is what you have. ?Check the webbing positions on the underside of the cast iron top before drilling - you don’t want to drill into the webs : <BowmouldMaster.jpg> If you plan on using tooling with the BowmouldMaster in conjunction with the sliding table and a crosscut fence, then I would not recommend rotating the template. ?Better to drill two sets if necessary to get the full position flexibility of the hood. ?I often use the BowmouldMaster with counter-profile tooling and a crosscut fence because the dust extraction is so much better with that hood. ? David Best DBestWorkshop@... https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/ https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best On Oct 27, 2024, at 6:54?AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote: Thanks Teboma. Rotating is definitely an option. I should have mentioned that I eyeballed it but my OCD, won’t allow it. Hi Tom, Thanks for sharing your experience. By omission, I assume you have not discovered any issues. If something came up I could do another set towards the front. Imran Malik On Oct 27, 2024, at 8:14?AM, Tom Gensmer via groups.io <tom@...> wrote: ? Hi Imran,? ? I had a similar issue when drilling for the 220mm Bowmould on my TF-130. As Teboma suggests, the easiest solution is to simply rotate the template to avoid existing obstructions.? ? In my case, the limiting factor was the large opening in the table, which precluded rotating the template, so I just shifted it back enough to clear the opening.? ? ? -- Tom Gensmer Heritage Home Renewals, LLC Minneapolis, MN
[email protected] All Messages By This Member #137842 David, how do you connect Bowmaster to the Profil shaper (where has a dust port fence of 140mm)? Do you have a reducer from 140mm to 120mm or do you use a dedicated hose?
David P. Best All Messages By This Member #137843 开云体育 Using an adapter that stays on the BowmouldMaster. David Best DBestWorkshop@... https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/ https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Oct 27, 2024, at 7:37?AM, netanel.belgazal via groups.io <netanel.belgazal@...> wrote: David, how do you connect Bowmaster to the Profil shaper (where has a dust port fence of 140mm)? Do you have a reducer from 140mm to 120mm or do you use a dedicated hose?
[email protected] All Messages By This Member #137848 Thanks David and Imarn
Andrea Cerroni All Messages By This Member #137865 can someone tell me where i can download the "survival guide" manual
David P. Best All Messages By This Member #137868 开云体育 On Oct 27, 2024, at 12:14?PM, andreacerroni75 via groups.io <andreacerroni75@...> wrote: can someone tell me where i can download the "survival guide” manual Go here:

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