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Re: Help Ripping - just got my first sliding table saw. Felder k700s
开云体育Hi John: ? You make good points about both the use of a bandsaw and thicknessing on edge. And with regard to the slightly ‘out of square’ issue. It is very minor like you say, but enough to notice. When it matters (e.g. for gluing up, joinery work, kumiko, etc.) I will always make two rip cuts. The first cut is slightly wide, and the second cut for that perfect rip where the material does not ride up on the slider. ? (Yes, yes, I know this is hard on the blade and is probably a bad habit. But it works for me.) ? There is another technique that I’m not sure has been mentioned much on FOG. I sometimes parallel rip on the slider without a parallel fence by measuring the overhang of material. Here are the steps: ?
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? Again, I hope this helps. ? Warm regards, Lucky ? From:
[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of John Hinman via groups.io <jhinman1911@...> Another method for ripping is skipping the circular saw, ripping to slightly over width on a band saw, and running the boards on edge through a thicknesser. That idea has been presented in this group before, so I do not take credit for it. I struggled with that idea until I acquired a band saw that would make clean and straight cuts. ? Once a board is flat and uniformly thick, I will joint one edge and rip a piece off the edge. If ripping several pieces from one board, I just keep jointing and ripping until done. ? When my saw was new and I was still trying to use it like a cabinet saw, I found that the slight difference in elevation between the cast iron and the slider was enough to throw the cut edge out of square. Not by much, but by enough to be noticeable in some cases. -- John Hinman |
Re: Help Ripping - just got my first sliding table saw. Felder k700s
开云体育Greetings: I normally cc first selecting longest length always trying to work with smallest parts.If you can do hit and miss first that will help with matching color and grain. You can also specify hit miss from the yard. The other thing with cc first as you get rid of the ends that screw up your knives. Keep steel brush around to clean surfaces. Mac,, martin/campshure/co/llc Designing and building for 50 years On Oct 28, 2024, at 7:31?PM, John Hinman via groups.io <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
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Re: Help Ripping - just got my first sliding table saw. Felder k700s
Another method for ripping is skipping the circular saw, ripping to slightly over width on a band saw, and running the boards on edge through a thicknesser. That idea has been presented in this group before, so I do not take credit for it. I struggled with that idea until I acquired a band saw that would make clean and straight cuts.
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Once a board is flat and uniformly thick, I will joint one edge and rip a piece off the edge. If ripping several pieces from one board, I just keep jointing and ripping until done.
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When my saw was new and I was still trying to use it like a cabinet saw, I found that the slight difference in elevation between the cast iron and the slider was enough to throw the cut edge out of square. Not by much, but by enough to be noticeable in some cases.
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Re: Help Ripping - just got my first sliding table saw. Felder k700s
Lucky-
That was excellent. Thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed explanation, I understand significantly more now. I notice that you discuss the length of the work, but not the width. I assume you work primarily with solid wood? Is there a width at which you would switch sides of the blade? I’m not referring to aspect-ratio here. David |
Re: Help Ripping - just got my first sliding table saw. Felder k700s
Ok, i'll try to add something to this topic.?
It depends......
What are you trying to rip? How many? What thickness? There are so many questions that need answering before an answer can be given.
Here are some examples.
If i need to take a bunch of 6, 8 or 10' boards from roughly 6" in width, and make them all straight and say 5 or 5 1/2" in width, then i would start by making a straight line rip with the rip shoe on one end of the slider and holding the other. I would have the rip fence set to my desired width, and simply rip the board down.?
If i am doing a lot of ripping of solid timber and i'm not just ripping a small amount off the edge, then i will always be using the short fence. Not only does this lessen the chance of the timber binding on the back of the blade if there is tension in the board, but allows for better accuracy of the cut when that tension is released.
If you are talking about sheetgoods, then you will have more accuracy sticking to the slider side. Having said that, i do all my thinner "rips" (say under 8 or 10" wide) of sheetgoods on the right of the blade. Good technique will get you a perfectly good result.
With all that said, i will pretty much always be ripping solid wood as a first step in the machining process. From there i will be square dressing the material and or running it through the shaper for use in whatever it is i'm making.
Let us know what kind of rip cuts you need advise with and i'm sure you will find lots of good advice.
Regards,
Bryce
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Re: New to me RL200
Thanks David,
I have roughly 40 feet of 8" ducting along with around 30 feet of 6" and 30 feet of 5" so far. The sheet metal isn't hot, however i can certainly feel warm air around the machine when i go down to shut it off. I will test the amperage draw and see where that is.
Regards,
Bryce
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Re: New to me RL200
Thanks David,
Yep, it's running in the correct direction. It's just starting to cool off here in Canada, & maybe i'm just sensitive to the temperature difference?? :) I am going to check the amperage draw and make sure there are no issues there. It's good to know your RL 160 does produce some heat. I would expect there to be some, since the extractor is moving a lot of air! I just don't know how much. I should actually try to measure it too i guess.
Regards,
Bryce
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Re: Help Ripping - just got my first sliding table saw. Felder k700s
开云体育Ahem, I rip on the right side of the blade all the time on my Kappa 400. ? Yes, we consistently get a better finish (cleaner cut, more consistent, straight) when using the sliding table and a mixture of clamps and jigs. However, that mixture of clamps and jigs takes time to get exactly right. Not a lot of time, but enough time for resentment to build. ? So here are rules of thumb I use: ?
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? I hope this is helpful. J’espère que cela est utile! (Mais, Dumas est trop difficile pour moi!) ? Warm regards, Lucky ? David Luckensmeyer ? From:
[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of John Hinman via groups.io <jhinman1911@...> Good idea, Mr. Best, but I think I will stay with translation apps. ? Rudimentary Spanish is almost necessary here. If I could acquire another language it would perhaps be French. I’d like to be able to read Dumas, or Rostand, in the original. ? (Sorry - getting off topic) -- John Hinman |
Re: New to me RL200
开云体育Have you confirmed that the impeller is rotating in the correct direction? ?It will suck sawdust even if running backward but will put out a lot more heat.My RL-160 does emit heat, and will drive up the shop temperature a few degrees when used for long periods. David Best DBestWorkshop@... https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/ https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best
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Re: New to me RL200
开云体育Hi Bryce: ? Thanks for your post. With regard to the heat, I wonder whether you have been running it without ducting, or without much ducting while you sort out the niggles? If so, the RL machines (and most extractors I imagine) are not designed to run very long without ducting. The RLs will definitely overheat, as they need the ‘back pressure’ (if that is the correct description) of reasonable amounts of ducting (several metres), otherwise the motor and impeller will work at above max-amps (with associated over heating). ? My RL160 did not get hot at all. My RL250 does not get hot at all. Sure, the motor must warm up considerably on extended use, but it must be over-hot if you can feel heat-transfer to the sheet-metal surrounding, or if the air exhaust is noticeably hot. In such cases, I would be wanting to assess motor issues going forward. ? Warm regards, Lucky ? David Luckensmeyer ? From:
[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bryce Comer via groups.io <bryce@...> Hi all, I just picked up a used RL200 and have a few questions. I have it up and running & been working through some little niggles over the past couple of days.? Firstly, the filters were pretty clogged up. Turns out the brushes weren't contacting the filter, so that problem was solved quite easily with a simple adjustment. Secondly, the right hand bag was being sucked up and was even damaged (presumably when the filters were being cleaned). That too was easily rectified with some extra foam tape to seal up a small gap in the seal between the unit and the bin. I have ordered parts to get the auto start up and running and look forward to having that feature on the machine. I may be looking for some help here with the install. :) The question i have for those with an RL160 or 200 is do you notice much heat coming from the machine when it is running? Nice for our Canadian winters, but i'm a little concerned about the summer! The filters are clean, & i have been running the machine for hours at a time over the weekend on a job with no overload or any other issues. The suction is fantastic and the filters are auto cleaning when i stop the machine. It certainly seems to be working well and while i expect a certain amount of heat to be generated due to the nature of the machine, i just want to make sure the amount of heat being generated is normal. I have a 11' high mezanine above roughly 1/2 of my shop, and the RL200 sits about half way along it, i am concerned about getting rid of that heat in the sumer.? Thanks in advance, Bryce -- https://www.brycecomerwoodworks.com/ |
Re: Felder Disintegrating Hose
开云体育Major or minor? All in the eyes of the beholder. It was a major pain in the ass to fix, especially with no guidance or assistance from the manufacturer.Just sayin’ Chris Rozycki? On Oct 28, 2024, at 2:33?PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
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On Oct 28, 2024, at 9:37?AM, Jarrett Maxwell via groups.io <j.a.max7@...> wrote:
Just a word of warning. I had a long length of Felder hose on my CF731. After it failed I bought a similar spec locally but it was too inflexible. So I ordered a replacement from Felder and it turned out also to be very inflexible? despite the website claiming otherwise. I have still to source a suitable supplier--Paul Mc Cann