Re: Moving Felder Equipment
The equipment showed up ready to be offloaded from the side. Just let the delivery people know what your intentions are.? I offloaded the equipment and set it in front of my garage door, ?then pallet jack in.?
Bill Belanger?
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 19:11 < tom@...> wrote: You guys are the best. I assume that the KF700SP could be rotated in the tractor trailer enough that I can properly engage the pallet from the side with a forklift??
Thanks for the suggestion re: long forks
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Re: Moving Felder Equipment
Having done this hundreds of time the simplest way usually is to have the machine sent to closest Depot , Contract with a tilt bed car hauler They have a winch in back and the beds raise up in down some to level to docks.and tilt . They are almost always license to move machines. You pay buy the hour and they are on call so you just pre arrange and call when needed. They pick machine or machines up at terminal Bring to your place hook the winch on and Tilt bed lower the machine On to the ground. Bingo. ? Done ?cost of a lift gate delivery usually. Mac,,, Designing and building for 50 years
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On Sep 27, 2020, at 5:04 PM, Bill B¨¦langer <Bllblngr@...> wrote:
? UR brought the forklift the evening before, showed me how to run it and picked it up the next evening. About $250 if I remember correctly?
Bill
I had the truck come to my house and rented a forklift from united rentals.? Bill Belanger? On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 17:57 < tom@...> wrote: Hi David!?
Thanks for the swift reply. I'd have to double-check the contract, but my memory is that Liz said the shippers were refusing some of the larger Felder lift-gate deliveries, so in lieu of the extra lift gate charge, I'm just paying for delivery to a local depot. There was an option for the tractor trailer to pull up to my house, but there is still the challenge of getting the machine out of the trailer... That being said, I barely remember what I ate for lunch today, so it'll be worth reviewing the contract.?
Thanks for the ?referral, I'll definitely check them out. Delivery is expected January 2021, which can be a gnarly season to be transporting things around on Minnesota roads. One nice thing about my property is, I can conceivably back the trailer right into my Shop, so I can unload it out of the elements.?
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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Re: Moving Felder Equipment
You guys are the best. I assume that the KF700SP could be rotated in the tractor trailer enough that I can properly engage the pallet from the side with a forklift??
Thanks for the suggestion re: long forks
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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and if you go the forklift?route ask in advance for long forks rather than the standard length. Dave Davies
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 5:26 PM Mark Foster < mfsta2lt@...> wrote: Tom,
The way Felder builds the shipping skid you can¡¯t fork it from the end, must be forked from the sides. If the trailer has any sort of ¡°Sides¡± they will block the forks. I rented a Home Depot truck with drop down sides. The depot forked it onto the truck and a friend forked it off for me at home. I would not have wanted to go very far with the HD truck, I only had to go a couple miles. Renting the truck was much cheaper than lift gate service.
You will have 2 pallets, one for the main unit and one for the slider. The slider box is quite long as you can guess.
Mark On Sep 27, 2020, at 1:52 PM, tom@... wrote:
Since we're chatting about moving machinery, I thought I'd put forth a query regarding my KF700SP. Liz is telling me that the shipping companies are giving Felder a lot of grief regarding delivering some larger equipment, and she recommended coming up with an alternate solution for the "final mile" from the shipping depot.?
I was thinking this "escalating" trailer might be a good option, but wanted to hear opinions from the group. It looks like I'd have a cargo bed of 75" wide and 126" long, which I'm assuming (hoping!!) would accommodate the KF700SP pallet. I will be towing with a Sprinter 2500, so I have 14' in the cargo area to accommodate the slider pallet (if necessary).?
Does the KF700SP pallet allow end- loading, or just siding loading??
Does this trailer seem suitable for a trip through town (Minneapolis)???
Thanks!!?
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Re: Moving Felder Equipment
Tom,
The way Felder builds the shipping skid you can¡¯t fork it from the end, must be forked from the sides. If the trailer has any sort of ¡°Sides¡± they will block the forks. I rented a Home Depot truck with drop down sides. The depot forked it onto the truck and a friend forked it off for me at home. I would not have wanted to go very far with the HD truck, I only had to go a couple miles. Renting the truck was much cheaper than lift gate service.
You will have 2 pallets, one for the main unit and one for the slider. The slider box is quite long as you can guess.
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On Sep 27, 2020, at 1:52 PM, tom@... wrote:
Since we're chatting about moving machinery, I thought I'd put forth a query regarding my KF700SP. Liz is telling me that the shipping companies are giving Felder a lot of grief regarding delivering some larger equipment, and she recommended coming up with an alternate solution for the "final mile" from the shipping depot.?
I was thinking this "escalating" trailer might be a good option, but wanted to hear opinions from the group. It looks like I'd have a cargo bed of 75" wide and 126" long, which I'm assuming (hoping!!) would accommodate the KF700SP pallet. I will be towing with a Sprinter 2500, so I have 14' in the cargo area to accommodate the slider pallet (if necessary).?
Does the KF700SP pallet allow end- loading, or just siding loading??
Does this trailer seem suitable for a trip through town (Minneapolis)???
Thanks!!?
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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Great input guys!?
I'll definitely look into the forklift option. I'm fortunate to live in a metropolitan area, and other than a ~1" lip from the street to my driveway, it's a straight, flat shot into my Shop. I need to rent a mini excavator next weekend anyways (need to trench for a larger electrical conduit to feed power to my Shop), I'll use that opportunity to inquire about a forklift....?
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Re: Moving Felder Equipment
Renting a forklift would be easier.? They bring the forklift to you.? No going to pick up a trailer...then going to pick up the saw...driving home...taking the trailer back.? Forklift rental may not be too much more than the trailer. Dave
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020, 5:04 PM Bill B¨¦langer < Bllblngr@...> wrote: UR brought the forklift the evening before, showed me how to run it and picked it up the next evening. About $250 if I remember correctly?
Bill
I had the truck come to my house and rented a forklift from united rentals.? Bill Belanger? On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 17:57 < tom@...> wrote: Hi David!?
Thanks for the swift reply. I'd have to double-check the contract, but my memory is that Liz said the shippers were refusing some of the larger Felder lift-gate deliveries, so in lieu of the extra lift gate charge, I'm just paying for delivery to a local depot. There was an option for the tractor trailer to pull up to my house, but there is still the challenge of getting the machine out of the trailer... That being said, I barely remember what I ate for lunch today, so it'll be worth reviewing the contract.?
Thanks for the ?referral, I'll definitely check them out. Delivery is expected January 2021, which can be a gnarly season to be transporting things around on Minnesota roads. One nice thing about my property is, I can conceivably back the trailer right into my Shop, so I can unload it out of the elements.?
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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Re: Moving Felder Equipment
UR brought the forklift the evening before, showed me how to run it and picked it up the next evening. About $250 if I remember correctly?
Bill
I had the truck come to my house and rented a forklift from united rentals.? Bill Belanger? On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 17:57 < tom@...> wrote: Hi David!?
Thanks for the swift reply. I'd have to double-check the contract, but my memory is that Liz said the shippers were refusing some of the larger Felder lift-gate deliveries, so in lieu of the extra lift gate charge, I'm just paying for delivery to a local depot. There was an option for the tractor trailer to pull up to my house, but there is still the challenge of getting the machine out of the trailer... That being said, I barely remember what I ate for lunch today, so it'll be worth reviewing the contract.?
Thanks for the ?referral, I'll definitely check them out. Delivery is expected January 2021, which can be a gnarly season to be transporting things around on Minnesota roads. One nice thing about my property is, I can conceivably back the trailer right into my Shop, so I can unload it out of the elements.?
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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Re: Moving Felder Equipment
I had the truck come to my house and rented a forklift from united rentals.? Bill Belanger?
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 17:57 < tom@...> wrote: Hi David!?
Thanks for the swift reply. I'd have to double-check the contract, but my memory is that Liz said the shippers were refusing some of the larger Felder lift-gate deliveries, so in lieu of the extra lift gate charge, I'm just paying for delivery to a local depot. There was an option for the tractor trailer to pull up to my house, but there is still the challenge of getting the machine out of the trailer... That being said, I barely remember what I ate for lunch today, so it'll be worth reviewing the contract.?
Thanks for the ?referral, I'll definitely check them out. Delivery is expected January 2021, which can be a gnarly season to be transporting things around on Minnesota roads. One nice thing about my property is, I can conceivably back the trailer right into my Shop, so I can unload it out of the elements.?
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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Re: Moving Felder Equipment
Hi David!?
Thanks for the swift reply. I'd have to double-check the contract, but my memory is that Liz said the shippers were refusing some of the larger Felder lift-gate deliveries, so in lieu of the extra lift gate charge, I'm just paying for delivery to a local depot. There was an option for the tractor trailer to pull up to my house, but there is still the challenge of getting the machine out of the trailer... That being said, I barely remember what I ate for lunch today, so it'll be worth reviewing the contract.?
Thanks for the ?referral, I'll definitely check them out. Delivery is expected January 2021, which can be a gnarly season to be transporting things around on Minnesota roads. One nice thing about my property is, I can conceivably back the trailer right into my Shop, so I can unload it out of the elements.?
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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i ended up picking up my KF from the depot in indianapolis, 60 miles away. that was back in 2002. it was known that it is coming to a residence but IIRC not having the dock was the issue.
imran
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On Sep 27, 2020, at 5:23 PM, David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote: ? Tom, ? ?You paid a fee for shipping.? On the contract is the shipping fee for delivery to your house or to a shipping depot?? Make sure you know what? you paid for when you signed the contract.? If? you paid to have the saw shipped to your house then Felder should coordinate to have the saw delivered to your house and I'm not sure why they are expecting you to come up with the "final mile" solution.
? ?If they really do expect?you to arrange shipping you might want to check and see what their rate would be to have the saw picked up at Felder and delivered to your house.? When I ordered my edge sander I used uship and it was about 50% less than what Holzher was going to charge me for shipping.? All that being said the trailer you're considering is an excellent choice and Felder should be able to tell you if the pallet can be accessed from the end with a pallet jack or if there are runners going the full length where you could roll it out on pipes.
Dave Davies On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 4:07 PM < tom@...> wrote: [Edited Message Follows]
Since we're chatting about moving machinery, I thought I'd put forth a query regarding my KF700SP. Liz is telling me that the shipping companies are giving Felder a lot of grief regarding delivering some larger equipment, and she recommended coming up with an alternate solution for the "final mile" from the shipping depot.?
I was thinking this "escalating" trailer might be a good option, but wanted to hear opinions from the group. It looks like I'd have a cargo bed of 75" wide and 126" long, which I'm assuming (hoping!!) would accommodate the KF700SP pallet. I will be towing with a Sprinter 2500, so I have 14' in the cargo area to accommodate the slider pallet (if necessary).?
I'll have a 20" x 48" pallet jack (courtesy of one of Jason Holtz's shop-mates), a 20" x 36" pallet jack (does any body want to buy a 20" x 36" pallet jack??) and access to a variety of pipes, lifting bars, straps, and helpers if needed. I'm ~6'2" 200 lbs.?
Does the KF700SP pallet allow end- loading, or just siding loading??
Does this trailer seem suitable for a trip through town (Minneapolis)???
Thanks!!?
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Re: Moving Felder Equipment
Tom, ? ?You paid a fee for shipping.? On the contract is the shipping fee for delivery to your house or to a shipping depot?? Make sure you know what? you paid for when you signed the contract.? If? you paid to have the saw shipped to your house then Felder should coordinate to have the saw delivered to your house and I'm not sure why they are expecting you to come up with the "final mile" solution.
? ?If they really do expect?you to arrange shipping you might want to check and see what their rate would be to have the saw picked up at Felder and delivered to your house.? When I ordered my edge sander I used uship and it was about 50% less than what Holzher was going to charge me for shipping.? All that being said the trailer you're considering is an excellent choice and Felder should be able to tell you if the pallet can be accessed from the end with a pallet jack or if there are runners going the full length where you could roll it out on pipes.
Dave Davies
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 4:07 PM < tom@...> wrote: [Edited Message Follows]
Since we're chatting about moving machinery, I thought I'd put forth a query regarding my KF700SP. Liz is telling me that the shipping companies are giving Felder a lot of grief regarding delivering some larger equipment, and she recommended coming up with an alternate solution for the "final mile" from the shipping depot.?
I was thinking this "escalating" trailer might be a good option, but wanted to hear opinions from the group. It looks like I'd have a cargo bed of 75" wide and 126" long, which I'm assuming (hoping!!) would accommodate the KF700SP pallet. I will be towing with a Sprinter 2500, so I have 14' in the cargo area to accommodate the slider pallet (if necessary).?
I'll have a 20" x 48" pallet jack (courtesy of one of Jason Holtz's shop-mates), a 20" x 36" pallet jack (does any body want to buy a 20" x 36" pallet jack??) and access to a variety of pipes, lifting bars, straps, and helpers if needed. I'm ~6'2" 200 lbs.?
Does the KF700SP pallet allow end- loading, or just siding loading??
Does this trailer seem suitable for a trip through town (Minneapolis)???
Thanks!!?
--
Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Re: Moving Felder Equipment
Since we're chatting about moving machinery, I thought I'd put forth a query regarding my KF700SP. Liz is telling me that the shipping companies are giving Felder a lot of grief regarding delivering some larger equipment, and she recommended coming up with an alternate solution for the "final mile" from the shipping depot.?
I was thinking this "escalating" trailer might be a good option, but wanted to hear opinions from the group. It looks like I'd have a cargo bed of 75" wide and 126" long, which I'm assuming (hoping!!) would accommodate the KF700SP pallet. I will be towing with a Sprinter 2500, so I have 14' in the cargo area to accommodate the slider pallet (if necessary).?
I'll have a 20" x 48" pallet jack (courtesy of one of Jason Holtz's shop-mates), a 20" x 36" pallet jack (does any body want to buy a 20" x 36" pallet jack??) and access to a variety of pipes, lifting bars, straps, and helpers if needed. I'm ~6'2" 200 lbs.?
Does the KF700SP pallet allow end- loading, or just siding loading??
Does this trailer seem suitable for a trip through town (Minneapolis)???
Thanks!!?
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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My new to me Cadillac 3300 pound metal lathe was brought to my shop and easily off loaded with the boom lift all the way down the sloped driveway to the shop door, about 30 feet from the truck.? He used the remote control to guide the load onto three skates then rolled it into place in the shop.? One of the best investments I have made and this was not in any way a job for armatures.? The work was done by Challenger Lifting of Bow, WA for a very reasonable cost.
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I have a Felder KF700 and some time ago I purchased a scoring blade.? I went to use it for the first time this week and much to my chagrin, it doesn't fit my saw.? I purchase the 80mm adjustable scoring saw blade item# 03.09.08020, (.? The reason it does not work on my saw is even when raised to it's maximum extent, it does not clear the surface of the table.? Upon further investigation, I should have bought the 100mm blade - which I will do this week. This is a "new" scoring blade never been used c/w all shims and it lists on the Felder site for $135.? I paid $115.? ?I will cover shipping in the US since it can be shipped in a small padded envelope.? Best offer over the next few days takes it since it's of absolutely no use to me.  Thanks, Rob.
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Looks like this was intended to be a reply to the other active thread around moving large/heavy machines.?
Its good information either way!
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 5:11 AM Randy Child via <strongman_one= [email protected]> wrote:
what does this have to do with a chair? LOL
On Saturday, September 26, 2020, 10:20:05 PM PDT, Jason Holtz < jholtzy@...> wrote:
My Ekstrom Carlson 112 edge sander is 2400# and my Oliver 299 planer is 2800#. They both live on 4x4 blocks that make it easy to move them anytime, anywhere. It's tough to get the pallet jack rolling by yourself, but it is doable. Once it's started it's not so bad. All of my bigger stuff is always on blocks for ease of moving, and on most things having a higher table height is nice when you're tall. My little 4000# electric Clark forklift makes getting anything on or off a truck or trailer simple provided there's not too much snow. You don't want to get that stuck in the driveway.
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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World class supply is where I was getting it but he is moving away from it because of some sort of distribution issue. He is moving into Saicos which is essentially the same and I think was started by some folks that started/worked at Osmos. You can also get Osmos direct from their website and on amazon.
?Gents - where do you get your Osmo products? ? I found a place in Canada but I know this was in previous threads, I did search but only find mentions of it but not where folks are getting it.
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World class supply is where I was getting it but he is moving away from it because of some sort of distribution issue. He is moving into Saicos which is essentially the same and I think was started by some folks that started/worked at Osmos. You can also get Osmos direct from their website and on amazon.
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On Sep 27, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Michael Marsico <michael.marsico1@...> wrote:
?Gents - where do you get your Osmo products? ? I found a place in Canada but I know this was in previous threads, I did search but only find mentions of it but not where folks are getting it.
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Gents - where do you get your Osmo products? ? I found a place in Canada but I know this was in previous threads, I did search but only find mentions of it but not where folks are getting it.
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Re: And the chair is complete
what does this have to do with a chair? LOL
On Saturday, September 26, 2020, 10:20:05 PM PDT, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:
My Ekstrom Carlson 112 edge sander is 2400# and my Oliver 299 planer is 2800#. They both live on 4x4 blocks that make it easy to move them anytime, anywhere. It's tough to get the pallet jack rolling by yourself, but it is doable. Once it's started it's not so bad. All of my bigger stuff is always on blocks for ease of moving, and on most things having a higher table height is nice when you're tall. My little 4000# electric Clark forklift makes getting anything on or off a truck or trailer simple provided there's not too much snow. You don't want to get that stuck in the driveway.
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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