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Re: Felder FB610 Fence Support problems

 

Essentially. I understand drift is a bit more involved topic that includes flatness/crowning of the tires, blade tension, blade wear etc. ?But squareness of the fence as it relates to the cut is what I¡¯m referring to


Re: K 700S T slot nut

 

To add some additional info, I have watched the posts and video from David Best, it is very helpful.? David mentioned the T nut can not be just any precision machined T nut, there needs to be adjustments allowed to make it work properly.? I can see what he is talking about from the video.? That brings another question:? what about the T nut sold by Felder?? They look like just a regular T nut without any adjustment.? Are they for a different application??
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Thanks,


Re: K 700S T slot nut

 

1/2" x 1 1/4" bar stock will work, you have to round over some edges on a sander.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
lambtoolworks.com


On Saturday, December 14, 2024 at 11:38:27 AM MST, jiojio_nc via groups.io <jiojio_nc@...> wrote:


Hi Everyone:
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I'm new to this forum, this is my first post.
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I have searched the message for information on the T slot nut design for a 700S, I will be getting the machine in a few months.? I know there has been a lot of discussion on this subject, people making their own and some folks have done a lot of design work.? Can someone point me to a design of the T nut I can reference to make a piece out of brass?? I found one message thread which mentioned "T-nut drawings from hhwoodworking", but I was not able to find this drawing.
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If anyone has the drawing or newer drawings that I can reference, it will be much appreciated.
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Nelson


K 700S T slot nut

 

Hi Everyone:
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I'm new to this forum, this is my first post.
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I have searched the message for information on the T slot nut design for a 700S, I will be getting the machine in a few months.? I know there has been a lot of discussion on this subject, people making their own and some folks have done a lot of design work.? Can someone point me to a design of the T nut I can reference to make a piece out of brass?? I found one message thread which mentioned "T-nut drawings from hhwoodworking", but I was not able to find this drawing.
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If anyone has the drawing or newer drawings that I can reference, it will be much appreciated.
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Nelson


Re: Mirka DEOS 3x4 vs Surfprep

 

I think it is the 6" Mirka.? I have used it and the comparable Festool at a woodworking shop/school where I frequently take classes.? I'm saving for one--it's terrific.? Jeff

On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 1:21?PM Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression via <airtightclamps=[email protected]> wrote:




Mike I couldn¡¯t see if this link showed up so here it is again. This is the one I was trying not to rectangular one.





martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.





middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Dec 14, 2024, at 10:13?AM, Michael Marsico via <michael.marsico1=[email protected]> wrote:

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Thanks Mac ¨C sounds like a good endorsement

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Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2024 11:04 AM
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Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Mirka DEOS 3x4 vs Surfprep

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Hello Mike

I was at my neighbor Tim¡¯s last week and he let me try out his Mikra pretty sure it was a 5 inch random orbital not the square pad that you¡¯re asking about but I can tell you it was one beautiful little tool to use. My friend Tim is high top quality finisher. He has a few of these and also use has at the University of Wisconsin workplace and if he says they¡¯re good they¡¯re damn good.

I only sanded with it for two minutes, so not a very good reference that way, but Tim swears by the damn thing and he is very very fussy when it comes to finishing or cabinet work in general so I trust his advice.

Best mac,,,

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martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years



On Dec 14, 2024, at 6:57?AM, Michael Marsico via <michael.marsico1@...> wrote:

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Hey Gentleman

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I am looking at getting a 3x4 sander.? I have festool sanders which i like but the 3x4 is taller than i prefer and was looking at these two sanders.? Does anyone have experience with them both that could compare them?

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I will use it on furniture and refinishing some exterior doors

--

Michael Marsico


--
Michael Marsico


Re: Mirka DEOS 3x4 vs Surfprep

 

I second what Mac said.
I have a Mirka 5" RO sander.? It is a good sander.? It's a paddle sander, not a switch-type, something to keep in mind.
I had a 3M, sold it, like the Mirka better.
If you get 20% off coupons from Zoro, you may be able to get a decent price.
cheers,??? Rich M.


Re: Mirka DEOS 3x4 vs Surfprep

 

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Mike I couldn¡¯t see if this link showed up so here it is again. This is the one I was trying not to rectangular one.





martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.





middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Dec 14, 2024, at 10:13?AM, Michael Marsico via groups.io <michael.marsico1@...> wrote:

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Thanks Mac ¨C sounds like a good endorsement

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2024 11:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Mirka DEOS 3x4 vs Surfprep

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Hello Mike

I was at my neighbor Tim¡¯s last week and he let me try out his Mikra pretty sure it was a 5 inch random orbital not the square pad that you¡¯re asking about but I can tell you it was one beautiful little tool to use. My friend Tim is high top quality finisher. He has a few of these and also use has at the University of Wisconsin workplace and if he says they¡¯re good they¡¯re damn good.

I only sanded with it for two minutes, so not a very good reference that way, but Tim swears by the damn thing and he is very very fussy when it comes to finishing or cabinet work in general so I trust his advice.

Best mac,,,

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martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years



On Dec 14, 2024, at 6:57?AM, Michael Marsico via groups.io <michael.marsico1@...> wrote:

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Hey Gentleman

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I am looking at getting a 3x4 sander. ?I have festool sanders which i like but the 3x4 is taller than i prefer and was looking at these two sanders. ?Does anyone have experience with them both that could compare them?

?

I will use it on furniture and refinishing some exterior doors

--

Michael Marsico


--
Michael Marsico


Re: Mirka DEOS 3x4 vs Surfprep

 

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Thanks Mac ¨C sounds like a good endorsement

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2024 11:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Mirka DEOS 3x4 vs Surfprep

?

Hello Mike

I was at my neighbor Tim¡¯s last week and he let me try out his Mikra pretty sure it was a 5 inch random orbital not the square pad that you¡¯re asking about but I can tell you it was one beautiful little tool to use. My friend Tim is high top quality finisher. He has a few of these and also use has at the University of Wisconsin workplace and if he says they¡¯re good they¡¯re damn good.

I only sanded with it for two minutes, so not a very good reference that way, but Tim swears by the damn thing and he is very very fussy when it comes to finishing or cabinet work in general so I trust his advice.

Best mac,,,

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martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years



On Dec 14, 2024, at 6:57?AM, Michael Marsico via groups.io <michael.marsico1@...> wrote:

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Hey Gentleman

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I am looking at getting a 3x4 sander. ?I have festool sanders which i like but the 3x4 is taller than i prefer and was looking at these two sanders. ?Does anyone have experience with them both that could compare them?

?

I will use it on furniture and refinishing some exterior doors

--

Michael Marsico


--
Michael Marsico


Re: Mirka DEOS 3x4 vs Surfprep

 

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As a sidenote, it is to do Mikra it was in the early 2000s. It was the Atlanta show after the show in the evening time. We¡¯re on top of the hotel in a big hot tub and I was in the pool with a bunch of MIKRA reps from around the world all of a sudden Harry of Felder fame walks up to the edge of the hot tub with very tiny speedo on goes into a handstand for a couple minutes and then flaps over into the pool quite interesting. Go Harry.

Mac,,,



martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Dec 14, 2024, at 10:04?AM, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression via groups.io <airtightclamps@...> wrote:

?Hello Mike
I was at my neighbor Tim¡¯s last week and he let me try out his Mikra pretty sure it was a 5 inch random orbital not the square pad that you¡¯re asking about but I can tell you it was one beautiful little tool to use. My friend Tim is high top quality finisher. He has a few of these and also use has at the University of Wisconsin workplace and if he says they¡¯re good they¡¯re damn good.
I only sanded with it for two minutes, so not a very good reference that way, but Tim swears by the damn thing and he is very very fussy when it comes to finishing or cabinet work in general so I trust his advice.
Best mac,,,


martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Dec 14, 2024, at 6:57?AM, Michael Marsico via groups.io <michael.marsico1@...> wrote:

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Hey Gentleman
?
I am looking at getting a 3x4 sander. ?I have festool sanders which i like but the 3x4 is taller than i prefer and was looking at these two sanders. ?Does anyone have experience with them both that could compare them?
?
I will use it on furniture and refinishing some exterior doors
--
Michael Marsico


Re: Mirka DEOS 3x4 vs Surfprep

 

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Hello Mike
I was at my neighbor Tim¡¯s last week and he let me try out his Mikra pretty sure it was a 5 inch random orbital not the square pad that you¡¯re asking about but I can tell you it was one beautiful little tool to use. My friend Tim is high top quality finisher. He has a few of these and also use has at the University of Wisconsin workplace and if he says they¡¯re good they¡¯re damn good.
I only sanded with it for two minutes, so not a very good reference that way, but Tim swears by the damn thing and he is very very fussy when it comes to finishing or cabinet work in general so I trust his advice.
Best mac,,,


martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Dec 14, 2024, at 6:57?AM, Michael Marsico via groups.io <michael.marsico1@...> wrote:

?
Hey Gentleman
?
I am looking at getting a 3x4 sander. ?I have festool sanders which i like but the 3x4 is taller than i prefer and was looking at these two sanders. ?Does anyone have experience with them both that could compare them?
?
I will use it on furniture and refinishing some exterior doors
--
Michael Marsico


Re: Felder FB610 Fence Support problems

 

Then it would ride up and down as he moves it from side to side. He already said that his bars are level.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
lambtoolworks.com


On Saturday, December 14, 2024 at 05:37:19 AM MST, rodsheridan via groups.io <riderofgallifrey@...> wrote:


Ron, if you adjust the mounting bars so your fence is square does it solve your issue?

Regards, Rod


Mirka DEOS 3x4 vs Surfprep

 

Hey Gentleman
?
I am looking at getting a 3x4 sander. ?I have festool sanders which i like but the 3x4 is taller than i prefer and was looking at these two sanders. ?Does anyone have experience with them both that could compare them?
?
I will use it on furniture and refinishing some exterior doors
--
Michael Marsico


Re: Felder FB610 Fence Support problems

 

Ron, if you adjust the mounting bars so your fence is square does it solve your issue?

Regards, Rod


Re: Profil 45Z commission and setup

 

I will look at mine tomorrow to let ya know what I find in the bag of parts that came with it.? I set it up once to validate the top is tapped from the factory.
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PK


Re: Profil 45Z commission and setup

 

David,
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This is what I did, I followed your 2 videos and square it to the trajectory of the slider, than attached a dial indicator to the fence and moved it and checked for parallelism between the fence and crosscut fence.
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PK,
The additional screws I sent are in addition to the two bolts/metal plates that secure the bolts to the slider.


Re: Profil 45Z commission and setup

 

Those parts are what bolts the plate to the slider.
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PK?


Re: Profil 45Z commission and setup

 

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Few followup questions:
1)I wanted to validate that after squaring the cross-cut fence to the cast iron, the motorized fence run parallel to it. I used a dial indicator attached to the fence and moved it by 50mm. The dial indicator moved by ~0.003", is that good enough?

First off, you should be squaring the crosscut fence to the trajectory of the sliding table, not to the cast iron table edge. ?Then you can check the motorized fence movement in relationship to the previously squared fence. ?These methods are illustrated in the two videos at this link: ?
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2)How/where do you store all the shaper accessories? For the cutters, I think to make a 1/2" plywood surface with some 1" dowels.

I store my shaper cutters in a typical shop cabinet with drawers, and installed 6mm plywood backer boards with finger-lift cutouts and hardwood dowels as shown below:

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Library - 2 of 2 (3).jpeg

3)Is there any usage to the EU shaper hood that Felder provided with the machine if I have the Aigner bownolder?

If you mean the gizmo shown below, it¡¯s only useful to you if your BowlmouldMaster is the smaller 150mm version and you need to run tooling from 150-180mm and don¡¯t need pressure wheels, etc. ?


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David Best
DBestWorkshop@...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/
https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best




Re: Profil 45Z commission and setup

 

I was able to fix the issue I had with the swing away device. Next issue I had was the 3 phase EU plug on the machine.
Felder sent me the wrong plug (they sent me a receptacle and not a plug, and they are out of stock for the correct item).
I initially though the EU plugs only defer one another by the number of pins and the supported amp.
I was wrong, apparently, apparently there is a different version for 5 pin layout that supports up to to 144V (250V 3phase) and 240V (400V 3phase). The first one is at the 6h and the latter one is at the 9h.
I couldn't easily find the 250V 3 phase, so I just bough the entire euro plug and replace the one on the machine.

The cost of an EU plug + receptacle is less than $20. In hindsight, why didn't I wire my shop with the EU plugs?
The 50A locking plug & receptacle cost me ~$100, where 63A version of the EU plug and receptacle are less than $40.
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Few followup questions:
1)I wanted to validate that after squaring the cross-cut fence to the cast iron, the motorized fence run parallel to it. I used a dial indicator attached to the fence and moved it by 50mm. The dial indicator moved by ~0.003", is that good enough?
2)How/where do you store all the shaper accessories? For the cutters, I think to make a 1/2" plywood surface with some 1" dowels.
3)Is there any usage to the EU shaper hood that Felder provided with the machine if I have the Aigner bownolder?


Re: Felder FB610 Fence Support problems

 

Leveling the flat bars all the way around was the first thing I did
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Regards, Ron


Re: Version 2.0 Fritz & Franz jig

 

Very nice JP.
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I built something similar with Lee Valley stops, the black knob threads into a flat washer in the sliding table T slot to keep the rear F&F jig piece in place.
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The aluminium tracks are held in with T bolts and nylock nuts which allows side to side length calibration.
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Regards, Rod.