Hi Tim,

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We used 1/4” stainless steel bar stock on our MM20 bandsaw table. ?Drilled 2 holes,

added some?spacers and the Felder aluminum extension table w/leg mounted right on…

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Nothing fancy, used scrap material, and it works great.

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Mike

M.E. Blake General Contractors

If you go separate, the Felder line is also worth checking out. The D951 looks like a super nice machine. I know the Felder jointer doesn’t have the single post limitation.?

Hi Jim,?

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When I ordered my FS-52es, Sam Blasco said that SCM North America usually tries to keep one or two in stock, so if you need something in a hurry I think it would be worth a call to see what is in stock, and/or what may already be on a ship and arriving soon.?

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Have you considered a 410mm machine? The FS-41es and FS-52es are essentially identical, other than width of cutterblock. If you want/need something in a hurry, that may be a worthwhile option, and if you outgrow the -41es you should be able to sell it without much fuss....?

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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN

Lucky,

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There is one difference, It takes two button presses to engage the programmed features.? You press the program and then the blue lit button.? For some options it takes three - function, execute then the blue lit button.

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I watched the video and realized my quality control on the video was poor - I have re-done the main video and I will re-do the secondary one as well.? Probably post the first one in a few hours after it renders and uploads.

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PK

Thanks again for the information. Do you think the newer Dual 51's have inproved over the older version in both set up time and the issues with the bed calibration?

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The one I am looking at is the loaded version with the digi drive and seg rollers. I am indeed of something quick, I did find a SCM 630 with xylent head and a nova 520 if I wanted to go seperates. I love the idea of the space savings offered with the Dual 51 but don't want to regret buying it. I am currently a one man shop but process a fair share of rough cut.?

Thanks Tim, and thank you for watching!

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https://www.brycecomerwoodworks.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHdrRaAZd_pOa7wwbdNPUEw

Thanks for watching Murray,?

Most of the cutters of this type i grind myself. It's what i love about the system, it's a lot like slotted collars being able to grind my own cutters to what ever i need. The locating pins make the system much safer than the old slotted collars, at least if the retaining pins are removed (which they often were! :) ) The pins however mean that your grinding has to be pretty spot on as there's no ability to adjust the cutting circle of each knife individually like slotted collars where even with the retaining pins in, there is a little bit of room to adjust the knives in and out. I will make a video of how i do it next time i need to grind cutters. If you have watched many of my videos, you may have actually seen that when using this type of cutter, i often don't have limiter knives. Typically if i am grinding knives, it's for a small run, often a one off job. In this case, the cost of having cutters ground, just doesn't make sense. With good set up and work practices on the shaper, operating the machine without limiter knives can be safe. As i write this, i am thinking i definitely need to do that video now so i can better explain the do's and dont's when operating this way.

Regards,

Bryce

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https://www.brycecomerwoodworks.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHdrRaAZd_pOa7wwbdNPUEw

Bryce, many thanks for sharing the video. I'm familiar with your videos from YouTube and wasn't aware you were a member of the FOG. I particularly like your use of the tilting arbor to form the 45° edge.

You mention "grinding" the cutters for the fluting, did you make them yourself?

Murray

I don’t have one for sale. This is Felder option for 20” Dual 51. My Felder tables have the height adjustment but the Jointer came predrilled, I can use the table from planer to the jointer w/o making adjustment. The bar sits 36.5 mm below the jointer table surface.

In your case, you would want to install the bar at the same height as the other machine that you use the table with.

Imran Malik

Greetings, I want to add some F coupling rails to my 20 inch Davis and Wells bandsaw so I can use my felder table extensions on it. ?I thought I would check with the group To see if anyone had some for sale. Also, if anyone has the dimension drawings or installation instructions, that would be great if I could check the fit before I went through a purchase. Much appreciated.

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Best regards, Timothy

Jim,

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Unfortunately the FS7 is a machine that is built per order, so you’ll need to wait ~6 months to get one.

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FS-52 should be more available, but it is still a machine that runs out of stock quickly.

I would contact Sam Blasco and inquire about the machines availability.

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For the Dual-51 availability, you probably should reach out to your local sales rep, depending on where do you live.

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Any idea where I can get one, :)? Thank you for the information and feedback.

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Jim

Hi Tom,

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Thank you very much for your candid feedback. Availability seems to be the issue right now with these SCM machines.?

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Hey PK,

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Great videos, I definitely prefer the L7 but unfortunately it doesn't seem to be available anywhere in stock and it's for my business and i can't wait months for it. I have a couple SCM machines which are ok (not perfect) but I love their l'Invincible line. Any ideas where I can get one? Thanks again for your response.?

-Jim

Hi Jim,?

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One nice feature of the SCM machines is that the dust chute remains on one side of the machine, so it simplifies ducting and makes transitioning from one function to the other easier.?

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My FS-52es came stock with an electronic adjustment for the planer bed, with a simple "Up" and "Down" adjustment, and digital readout.?

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I'll go against the grain a little here and say that I would have ordered an all-manual machine if SCM had one in stock, owing mostly to my skepticism of sourcing electronics decades after a purchase.?

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If you do opt for a SCM machine with the simple "up/down" buttons, I will share that they are straightforward to use, and I don't find them to be an issue when milling lumber.?

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On the FS-52es, you need to lower the thickness planer bed to 80mm in order to convert to jointer.?

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I did not like the "pork chop" guard which shipped with my FS-52es, so I retrofitted a SuvaMatic guard and I just love it.?

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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN

I don't have experience with the Dual51, but when I wanted to upgrade my Hammer A3-31 earlier this year I checked the spec of both the Dual51 and the SCM equivalent.
I liked the advantage of the SCM:

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I initially ordered the SCM FS52 back in May (2024), with delivery in September (2024). I was at IWF in August and investigated the L'invincible FS 7 they had there.
I decided to cancel the FS-52 order and order the ?L'invincible FS 7 instead. It should arrive to LA port any day now.

The main reasons:

…as they say, a picture is worth a thousand words! ?

Lucky,

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The L'invincible FS 7 has SCM's version of Digi-Drive.? It is the only J/P combo from SCM with it.? It is called Ready 3.? You do not need to lower the bed if it is 25mm or more.

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Here is my video on it:

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This is the video on the FS 7:

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PK

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This is the issue with conversational threads. Tenoning hood was mentioned earlier and you are correct that it would be the safest option.