Glen,

? ?Now is the time to buy the Kappa 400 if they still have 60th anniversary pricing on the saw.? You didn't say where you are or perhaps I missed it but the Dallas showroom has one with all the bells and whistles on their floor.? AD941 is also a good price now ($4K less than what I paid -- darn it).? Workshop size is everything.? Bigger is better.? If my shop were bigger I'd have the Kappa and would be selling my KF700S but the Kappa just won't fit.? Kind of speaks to whether or not we'd buy another Felder.? My shop is awash in Felder

Dave

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 6:59 PM, David Luckensmeyer dhluckens@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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Hi Glen:

Welcome to the group! Looking forward to helping you.

Regarding your question about “bad experiences”, I think perhaps that is not the right question. Most of us are long-term, repeat Felder customers who have invested a lot of time and money into Felder machines, along with many other brands. We can probably all tell stories about “bad experiences”, whether about a particular machine, or a particular service representative. Here the context would be most important. Was the “bad experience” last year or fifteen years ago? Was it West coast or East coast, or somewhere like Australia (where I am)? And so forth. Make sense?

Perhaps a more useful question would be: “Would you buy Felder again?”

My answer is absolutely. This company is not perfect. The service is not perfect. The machines are not perfect. But they are very well designed (in the main), very well built (in the main), and the service is much better than average (again, in the main). I have quite a few of their machines and have spent a lot of money with Felder. I, for one, will continue to buy Felder.

There are many here who can help you with the machines you’re considering, and what options to buy. But we need more information, like:

How much do you want to spend? $10k, $20k, $100k?

What power do you have, or are you willing to put in?

What size space do you have? (This is important for sliding table lengths.)

And what kind of “woodwork” do you like to do? Small, detailed items; big interior design work; veneer or solid? Etc.

These are exciting times for you!

Warm regards,

David

Dr David Luckensmeyer

Practice Manager

Luckensmeyer Medical Pty Ltd

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and

Designer and Woodworker

Original Designs in Wood

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On 30 Nov 2016, at 8:24 AM, GLEN chris3645@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I am a new joiner to the group and would like to introduce myself.
My name is Glen and I am purchasing some Felder tools. I am Glad to find this group to get in touch and learn more.
I grew up in wood, my dad was a cabinet builder , boat builder or just anything anyone would bring him he could build
Ten years ago I got out of wood and got in the grocery business. It was the best and worse thing I ever did. The best thing was i made money , the bad was 100 hour work weeks and missing sawdust. In those ten years i put some money away every month so i could get my workshop back when i retired. I am retiring in 32 days and about 10 hours. Ha. So as i try and figure out what I am buying,how to plan shop layout, dust collection, what im going to make to sell if anything and why im even really doing this, I am looking for knowledge from other people. I have nothing but questions and this is a one time thing for me that I have to get right. My girl friend was ok with it ( "It will give you something to do and keep you busy") until I told her how much i was going to spend.?
Sorry to drag on but i am excited to join this group and other related groups to learn how you all do. it.

Thanks Glen
Question one, who has had any bad experiences with Felder?

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From: James Zhu?james.zhu2@...?[felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com>
To:?phil_moger@...?[felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2016 10:16 am
Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Re: See the new dust collector?

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I read another post?.

The machine sold in states comes with 5 micron filter, 1 micron is an option you can upgrade. I believe the machine sold in Europe will have 1 micron filter.

James

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:16 PM, James Zhu?<james.zhu2@...>?wrote:

I think it is a typo.?

If it was 5 micron, I do not think the owner of bridge city would buy it because he is allergic to wood dust as mentioned in the following review of his new dust collector.

James

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 10:21 AM,?andy.giddings@...?[felder-woodworking]?<felder-woodworking@...>?wrote:

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As the filter appears to be 5 micron, seems more like a large dust distributor than a collector :-) Hope that's a misprint

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Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868

I think it is a typo.?

If it was 5 micron, I do not think the owner of bridge city would buy it because he is allergic to wood dust as mentioned in the following review of his new dust collector.

James

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 10:21 AM, andy.giddings@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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As the filter appears to be 5 micron, seems more like a large dust distributor than a collector :-) Hope that's a misprint

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As the filter appears to be 5 micron, seems more like a large dust distributor than a collector :-) Hope that's a misprint

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I got these two dust evacuation chutes. In ten there is molded in
plastic an X pattern presumably to keep chunks from being sucked up and
hitting a cheap plastic impeller.

Problems is when Sawing wet logs for processing on the lathe the wood
is often stringy as it comes off the blade and gets wrapped around
these X parts clogging them and quickly closing the ducts off completely.

So my question is - - have you cut them out and found the polymer DC
chute did not collapse? I'm about to cut mine out and take the chance.

I don't have the impeller problem. I can send rocks through my DC with
no ill effect.

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Resend again!!

Hi Michael,

I would suggest a longer slider 98" is to short if you work with sheet goods 10' more better .

You can not touch the internal electrical for one ?year or all warranty bets are off with Felder or at least ?that's how it used to be.

Mac,,,

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

608-824-0023?fax

airtightclamps@...

Designing and building for 47 years

On Nov 18, 2016, at 2:16 PM, jontathan samways jonathansamways@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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Hi Michael,

I'm the other side of the pond to you so don't now if the motors are different, maybe someone else can chime in.

I've have a kf700 with a 3kw single phase motor,? I also have a clamp meter, which ive never used, if I can get my head around how to measure the start up current I'll see if I can get you some figures next week.
This will be a good exercise for me as my home is off grid, Im running with a 3kw outback inverter. My dream is to eventually have my workshop at home, was thinking in my case I would probably need to link in an extra inverter to bring my supply up to 6kw.

Jonathan Samways
Southern Spain

Fine Interior Woodwork

On 18 Nov 2016 20:41, "Brian Lamb blamb11@... [felder-woodworking]" <felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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I would look at the machine with the VFD driven motors…. it’s actually three phase motors using single phase input with a variable frequency drive. So you could set the VFD parameters with a long ramp up time and keep your in-rush amperage to a minimum.

Brian Lamb

blamb11@...

On Nov 18, 2016, at 10:41 AM, garrisonstuber@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Greetings!
?????I'm new here.? I live in Newman Lake, Washington, right near the border with Idaho in the foothills of the beautiful Selkirk Mountains.? I'm about to start the purchasing process on CF531P.? I've chosen this model because it provides the quick change spindle, but still allows me to get a slider with the 98" cutting length.? (Happy for feedback on this decision and any other recommendations).

???? I happen to live completely off-gird (look ma!? no wires!).? What I've learned over the years is that I need to worry about current inrush on any motor over 2 hp.? On my existing larger tools (3 HP bandsaw, 3 HP planer), I have installed soft-start motor controllers.? These controllers allow the motors to spin up slowly, limiting the amount of current drawn during the spin-up process.? My inverters (the electronics that power my property) will happily run the large motors, they just can't deal with the 3x to 5x start up current.? (Before the soft start units I would often overload my inverters, causing my own personal blackout).

???? My understanding is that Felder has a starting mechanism that engages a series of capacitors depending on how long you hold the start button down.? I obtained a schematic from Felder, but I'm not sure I'm reading the schematic correctly.??

??? Does anyone know what the current inrush on a Felder?single phase?3 kw motor is?? (I'm looking for a number).? If you have one of those fancy clamp amp meters such that you could take a reading, I'd really appreciate it.? I'm not particularly keen on rewiring the machine before I've even used it, but depending on the current inrush values, I may have to purchase and integrate a soft-start controller for it to work on my electrical system.

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-- Michael Garrison Stuber