Re: Hammer dust chute revisited...
Not to be a killjoy but i recently designed the same: https://www.printables.com/model/1250208-hammer-c3k3-hose-connection
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Re: Fixing Felder X-roll short cross cut fence T-nut - AKA group buy of improved T-nut
Hello Nentanel,?
Thanks for offering to organise getting a batch of these made up can you please put me down for a kit for two machines please.? Hopefully you get enough interest in this project. Just let me know how and when to send you the money.
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On 1 Apr 2025, at 09:30, Craig Bayer via groups.io <cbayer57@...> wrote:
? Hello Netanel,
? I was wondering if you were able to get 25 people interested in this so that you could move forward?
Thanks,
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Craig?
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Re: Hammer dust chute revisited...
Hi Brian
Since I live in Europe buying a printed model is off the radar. Are you willing to sell the stl and/or fusion file?
Regards
I worked with fellow FOGer Tom Fulmer on fine tuning the 3D printed dust chute adapter for the Hammer machines. After quite a few iterations I have a solution that actually works. Hopefull nobody printed the first one I posted, it was a pretty bad failure... that's what happens when I do things without proper measurements and engineering.
Any way, if anybody wants one, I'd be happy to print some, contact me off the list at blamb11@... I'll attach a 3D PDF file of what it looks like, which is easier to see how it all works than in pictures. It slips on the dust chute and then hangs off the metal ears sticking out off the sides.
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Re: F700Z fence plate alignment issue
Bryce, it almost seems as if the attachment mechanism doesn’t retract enough to pull it tight or the surfaces were not machined properly. Could Also be a defective fence plate. I’m putting in a service ticket later, will see what they say.?
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On Apr 1, 2025, at 1:47?PM, Bryce Comer via groups.io <bryce@...> wrote:
? Hi Dan,
I have noticed this too on the 230 fence of my CF741. When i do, i pull both fences off and clean everything with a blast of air and a bit of a wipe and it tends to end up spot on again. Hopefully this will solve your issue, otherwise it sounds like a bit of an issue, since i don't believe there is any adjustment.
Regards,
Bryce
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https://www.brycecomerwoodworks.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHdrRaAZd_pOa7wwbdNPUEw
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Re: F700Z fence plate alignment issue
Unfortunately an aigner fence is just not in the budget at this point. I’d rather upgrade the machine to a format 4 shaper than invest more into this model.?
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On Apr 1, 2025, at 8:48?PM, Karl via groups.io <bombamanwa@...> wrote:
? Isn't it just an excuse to get an Aigner fence? ? On mine the previous owner had added some packing tape to make everything coplanar
-Karl
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Felder BF6-26 with Air filter AF 20 located near Boston
#forsale
Felder BF6-26 Located 10 miles North of Boston. I can provide lots of pictures if there is any interest. #forsale
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Re: F700Z fence plate alignment issue
Isn't it just an excuse to get an Aigner fence? ? On mine the previous owner had added some packing tape to make everything coplanar
-Karl
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Re: Felder AD941 vs SCM Fs41ES
Thanks, Mike D! Some folks in this group have mentioned issues with getting things clean and screws torqued correctly. Definitely prudent to check YouTube.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
Kappa 450X and A941
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Re: Felder AD941 vs SCM Fs41ES
Straight knife, the scallops are at a right angle to the material passing through the machine spiral heads the scallops are running linearly with the board Designing and building for 50 years
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On Apr 1, 2025, at 7:03?PM, Mike D. via groups.io <mjcdorsam@...> wrote:
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John: I recently completed rotating the cutters on my AD951… quite straightforward and completed in a couple hours. Watch YouTube videos, have your tools ready and develop a flow to the process. I ran the first edge for several years of hardwoods; the time investment in the changeover was worthwhile.
Mike D.
On Tuesday, April 1, 2025, 11:40, John Hinman via groups.io <jhinman1911@...> wrote: PK’s observations make sense to me. My comparisons are much more limited, of course.
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I bought a 15” Powermatic thicknesser with spiral head, after years of the cheapest import I could find. I was amazed at the finish quality - I ran a chunk of fir through it and the surface was like glass. My reaction was “why did I wait so long to get this!”
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The PM motivated me to replace the head on my 8” Delta jointer with a Byrd head. That was disappointing. Lots of little scallops. Jointing slower was the solution, but it was not really what I expected.
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I’m satisfied with the spiral head on my A951, but am not looking forward to rotating all of those cutters.
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John Hinman
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Kappa 450X and A941
-- Mike D. Annapolis, MD AD951; K700S; N4400
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Hammer dust chute revisited...
I worked with fellow FOGer Tom Fulmer on fine tuning the 3D printed dust chute adapter for the Hammer machines. After quite a few iterations I have a solution that actually works. Hopefull nobody printed the first one I posted, it was a pretty bad failure... that's what happens when I do things without proper measurements and engineering.
Any way, if anybody wants one, I'd be happy to print some, contact me off the list at blamb11@... I'll attach a 3D PDF file of what it looks like, which is easier to see how it all works than in pictures. It slips on the dust chute and then hangs off the metal ears sticking out off the sides.
Brian Lamb blamb11@... lambtoolworks.com
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Re: Felder AD941 vs SCM Fs41ES
John: I recently completed rotating the cutters on my AD951… quite straightforward and completed in a couple hours. Watch YouTube videos, have your tools ready and develop a flow to the process. I ran the first edge for several years of hardwoods; the time investment in the changeover was worthwhile.
On Tuesday, April 1, 2025, 11:40, John Hinman via groups.io <jhinman1911@...> wrote: PK’s observations make sense to me. My comparisons are much more limited, of course.
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I bought a 15” Powermatic thicknesser with spiral head, after years of the cheapest import I could find. I was amazed at the finish quality - I ran a chunk of fir through it and the surface was like glass. My reaction was “why did I wait so long to get this!”
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The PM motivated me to replace the head on my 8” Delta jointer with a Byrd head. That was disappointing. Lots of little scallops. Jointing slower was the solution, but it was not really what I expected.
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I’m satisfied with the spiral head on my A951, but am not looking forward to rotating all of those cutters.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
Kappa 450X and A941
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Mike D.
Annapolis, MD
AD951; K700S; N4400
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Re: Potentiall gotcha with the cheap Chinese DRO's
On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 10:57 AM, Rohit Kulshreshtha wrote:
Thanks Rohit,
Indeed it looks like you can have multiple sections of tape. I'm not sure i want to be going through that procedure though each time i move from the first part of the tape to the second, so i'm glad it's working how i have it set up currently.
Regards,
Bryce
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https://www.brycecomerwoodworks.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHdrRaAZd_pOa7wwbdNPUEw
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Re: Potentiall gotcha with the cheap Chinese DRO's
Bryce, Glad you shared, because as I said, I would not have even tried.
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On Apr 1, 2025, at 1:36?PM, Bryce Comer via groups.io <bryce@...> wrote: ? Thanks Imran,
Yes the join in the tape was necessary due to how the table lifts up. I thought i could simply cut it but the two pieces together and it would work, but it turned out that it wasn't accurate. I used the edge sander to first carefully clean up one end, then reduce the length of the other part until it read accurately as it passed over the join. It worked the first time i did it, and i'm glad to say it worked the second time as well, so i'm confident enough to say it can be done. :)
Reards,
Bryce
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https://www.brycecomerwoodworks.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHdrRaAZd_pOa7wwbdNPUEw
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Re: Saw blade for cross cut.
Aaron,
You are right, I should have prefaced that statement with “In General”. It was a response I copied from a thread on my FB group and sometimes they are not perfectly phrased.
The issue with a cut with moving material or a moving blade is the tendency to self feed. Therefore, the recommendations are more for safety than performance or quality of cut. If the material is clamped and the feed rate can be controlled then the blade that is recommended for standard ripping and cross cutting could be used on a slider as well.
Generalities are well generalities. This is why I shared the Tenryu table so one can see the options from the manufacturer and the link to the short article to share the basics.
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On Apr 1, 2025, at 1:45?PM, Aaron Inami via groups.io <ainami@...> wrote: ? I don't think I necessarily agree with the statement "Sliders do work better with less hook" -- if you equate hook with meaning the same as rake angle.? I have tried in one instance using my 10 degree rake blade for ripping and it did not work well at all.? There was a lot of resistance for feed rate (required more pressure to push the wood through the saw) and I commonly got burn marks.? For ripping, you definitely need a higher rake angle on the blade tooth.
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I guess think of it this way.? A higher rake angle (20 or 25 degree) will act more like a shovel to scoop larger sections of wood out when doing the cut.?? A shallower rake angle (5 or 10 degree) will act more like a grinder wheel than a shovel.? Obviously, this is an extreme analogy, but hopefully you get the concept.
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I think the link to the Tenryu chart that Imram provided is actually a pretty good recommendation.? It shows a higher 20 or 25 degree rake angle for anything doing ripping.?? Then shallower 10 or 15 degree rake angle for crosscuts.? The only negative degree rake is for melomine and laminates.?? In other Tenryu charts, the only time I see a negative rake is on miter saw or radial arm saw (which are essentially cross-cut only machines) and, of course, metal cutting applications.
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Based on the chart, my 10 degree blade is actually recommended for plywood only, but I found it works great for hardwoods as well (though, it still might not be as optimum as a 15 degree rake).
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-Aaron Inami
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Re: Saw blade for cross cut.
I’m running a Ridge Carbide brand blade model, TS21248-A with 30mm pinholes. ? It performs very similar to the characteristics that Aaron described as well. ?But It’s a +20 rake, and is HORRIBLE at ripping solid stock. ?I use it as a combination blade because I cut a lot of sheet stock, and it performs great with sheet ripping and cross cutting. ?It also performs well with solid stock cross cutting. ?But forget about it ripping the solid stuff. ?I switch to lower tooth count blade for this milling process. ?
Thx,
Wade
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On Apr 1, 2025, at 10:45 AM, Aaron Inami <ainami@...> wrote:
? I don't think I necessarily agree with the statement "Sliders do work better with less hook" -- if you equate hook with meaning the same as rake angle.? I have tried in one instance using my 10 degree rake blade for ripping and it did not work well at all.? There was a lot of resistance for feed rate (required more pressure to push the wood through the saw) and I commonly got burn marks.? For ripping, you definitely need a higher rake angle on the blade tooth.
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I guess think of it this way.? A higher rake angle (20 or 25 degree) will act more like a shovel to scoop larger sections of wood out when doing the cut.?? A shallower rake angle (5 or 10 degree) will act more like a grinder wheel than a shovel.? Obviously, this is an extreme analogy, but hopefully you get the concept.
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I think the link to the Tenryu chart that Imram provided is actually a pretty good recommendation.? It shows a higher 20 or 25 degree rake angle for anything doing ripping.?? Then shallower 10 or 15 degree rake angle for crosscuts.? The only negative degree rake is for melomine and laminates.?? In other Tenryu charts, the only time I see a negative rake is on miter saw or radial arm saw (which are essentially cross-cut only machines) and, of course, metal cutting applications.
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Based on the chart, my 10 degree blade is actually recommended for plywood only, but I found it works great for hardwoods as well (though, it still might not be as optimum as a 15 degree rake).
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-Aaron Inami
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Re: Potentiall gotcha with the cheap Chinese DRO's
When researching cost-effective DROs, I found the M503 and LP-02 models confusing—they appear to be nearly identical in size and design. I ended up purchasing a few LP-02 units, and based on the documentation, it seems that using multiple segments of tape is a valid use case for the LP-02 (or at least, that’s how I interpreted the manual—it’s not exactly Pulitzer-winning English, but I think that’s what it meant).
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Re: F700Z fence plate alignment issue
Hi Dan,
I have noticed this too on the 230 fence of my CF741. When i do, i pull both fences off and clean everything with a blast of air and a bit of a wipe and it tends to end up spot on again. Hopefully this will solve your issue, otherwise it sounds like a bit of an issue, since i don't believe there is any adjustment.
Regards,
Bryce
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https://www.brycecomerwoodworks.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHdrRaAZd_pOa7wwbdNPUEw
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Re: Saw blade for cross cut.
I don't think I necessarily agree with the statement "Sliders do work better with less hook" -- if you equate hook with meaning the same as rake angle.? I have tried in one instance using my 10 degree rake blade for ripping and it did not work well at all.? There was a lot of resistance for feed rate (required more pressure to push the wood through the saw) and I commonly got burn marks.? For ripping, you definitely need a higher rake angle on the blade tooth.
?
I guess think of it this way.? A higher rake angle (20 or 25 degree) will act more like a shovel to scoop larger sections of wood out when doing the cut.?? A shallower rake angle (5 or 10 degree) will act more like a grinder wheel than a shovel.? Obviously, this is an extreme analogy, but hopefully you get the concept.
?
I think the link to the Tenryu chart that Imram provided is actually a pretty good recommendation.? It shows a higher 20 or 25 degree rake angle for anything doing ripping.?? Then shallower 10 or 15 degree rake angle for crosscuts.? The only negative degree rake is for melomine and laminates.?? In other Tenryu charts, the only time I see a negative rake is on miter saw or radial arm saw (which are essentially cross-cut only machines) and, of course, metal cutting applications.
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Based on the chart, my 10 degree blade is actually recommended for plywood only, but I found it works great for hardwoods as well (though, it still might not be as optimum as a 15 degree rake).
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-Aaron Inami
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Re: Potentiall gotcha with the cheap Chinese DRO's
Thanks Imran,
Yes the join in the tape was necessary due to how the table lifts up. I thought i could simply cut it but the two pieces together and it would work, but it turned out that it wasn't accurate. I used the edge sander to first carefully clean up one end, then reduce the length of the other part until it read accurately as it passed over the join. It worked the first time i did it, and i'm glad to say it worked the second time as well, so i'm confident enough to say it can be done. :)
Reards,
Bryce
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https://www.brycecomerwoodworks.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHdrRaAZd_pOa7wwbdNPUEw
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Re: Saw blade for cross cut.
Im using forrest blades. Usa made. ?I like the duraline for xcut and the woodworker ii for ripping. You can ship them the blades to have them retoothed and or sharpened. They will also add the pin holes for sliders for blades that you have without them. 11$ each.?
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Dan Gavrilyuk
Bryce Comer
imran