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Re: Bowmouldmaster Install Issue

David, how do you connect Bowmaster to the Profil shaper (where has a dust port fence of 140mm)?
Do you have a reducer from 140mm to 120mm or do you use a dedicated hose?

Re: Bowmouldmaster Install Issue

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Hi David,

Thanks for the reference. It never fails, I looked through the index (obviously not carefully enough) and the section 7 in survival guide before asking the question. Completely missed the installation provided in Section 10 ??♂?

The great survival guide has all the answers if you are smart enough to look carefully.

I will report if the webbing is any different than survival guide on my 2002 KF700.

Imran Malik

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On Oct 27, 2024, at 10:11?AM, David P. Best via groups.io <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:

?Imran - from page 226 in the Survival Guide - ?this would be for ?KF700, but the F700 is similar. ?Trunion bolts only exist on pre-X-Roll type machines which I believe is what you have. ?Check the webbing positions on the underside of the cast iron top before drilling - you don’t want to drill into the webs :

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If you plan on using tooling with the BowmouldMaster in conjunction with the sliding table and a crosscut fence, then I would not recommend rotating the template. ?Better to drill two sets if necessary to get the full position flexibility of the hood. ?I often use the BowmouldMaster with counter-profile tooling and a crosscut fence because the dust extraction is so much better with that hood. ?

David Best
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On Oct 27, 2024, at 6:54?AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

Thanks Teboma. Rotating is definitely an option. I should have mentioned that I eyeballed it but my OCD, won’t allow it.

Hi Tom, Thanks for sharing your experience. By omission, I assume you have not discovered any issues. If something came up I could do another set towards the front.

Imran Malik

On Oct 27, 2024, at 8:14?AM, Tom Gensmer via groups.io <tom@...> wrote:

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Hi Imran,?

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I had a similar issue when drilling for the 220mm Bowmould on my TF-130. As Teboma suggests, the easiest solution is to simply rotate the template to avoid existing obstructions.?

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In my case, the limiting factor was the large opening in the table, which precluded rotating the template, so I just shifted it back enough to clear the opening.?

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Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN

Re: Bowmouldmaster Install Issue

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120mm. See attached. ? The Aigner catalog is in the files section.

David Best
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On Oct 27, 2024, at 7:15?AM, netanel.belgazal via groups.io <netanel.belgazal@...> wrote:

Unrelated question, What is the Bowmoulder dust port size?

AignerCatalog - BowmouldMaster.pdf

Re: Bowmouldmaster Install Issue

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Nate, In my case, the hose from my std. shaper hood also fits this larger BMM hood. There is a smaller BMM hood as well and I don’t know it’s port size. Probably mentioned in the survival guide.

Imran Malik

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On Oct 27, 2024, at 10:15?AM, netanel.belgazal via groups.io <netanel.belgazal@...> wrote:

Unrelated question, What is the Bowmoulder dust port size?

Re: Bowmouldmaster Install Issue

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Unrelated question, What is the Bowmoulder dust port size?

Re: Bowmouldmaster Install Issue

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Imran - from page 226 in the Survival Guide - ?this would be for ?KF700, but the F700 is similar. ?Trunion bolts only exist on pre-X-Roll type machines which I believe is what you have. ?Check the webbing positions on the underside of the cast iron top before drilling - you don’t want to drill into the webs :

David Best
DBestWorkshop@...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/
https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best

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On Oct 27, 2024, at 6:54?AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

Thanks Teboma. Rotating is definitely an option. I should have mentioned that I eyeballed it but my OCD, won’t allow it.

Hi Tom, Thanks for sharing your experience. By omission, I assume you have not discovered any issues. If something came up I could do another set towards the front.

Imran Malik

On Oct 27, 2024, at 8:14?AM, Tom Gensmer via groups.io <tom@...> wrote:

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Hi Imran,?

?

I had a similar issue when drilling for the 220mm Bowmould on my TF-130. As Teboma suggests, the easiest solution is to simply rotate the template to avoid existing obstructions.?

?

In my case, the limiting factor was the large opening in the table, which precluded rotating the template, so I just shifted it back enough to clear the opening.?

?

?

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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN

Re: Bowmouldmaster Install Issue

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Thanks Teboma. Rotating is definitely an option. I should have mentioned that I eyeballed it but my OCD, won’t allow it.

Hi Tom, Thanks for sharing your experience. By omission, I assume you have not discovered any issues. If something came up I could do another set towards the front.

Imran Malik

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On Oct 27, 2024, at 8:14?AM, Tom Gensmer via groups.io <tom@...> wrote:

Hi Imran,?

I had a similar issue when drilling for the 220mm Bowmould on my TF-130. As Teboma suggests, the easiest solution is to simply rotate the template to avoid existing obstructions.?

In my case, the limiting factor was the large opening in the table, which precluded rotating the template, so I just shifted it back enough to clear the opening.?

Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN

Re: Bowmouldmaster Install Issue

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Hi Imran,?

I had a similar issue when drilling for the 220mm Bowmould on my TF-130. As Teboma suggests, the easiest solution is to simply rotate the template to avoid existing obstructions.?

In my case, the limiting factor was the large opening in the table, which precluded rotating the template, so I just shifted it back enough to clear the opening.?

Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN

Re: New Owner of K700S

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You will see references to "Mac's clamps" on here. A member- Mac Campshure- builds pneumatic clamps that are probably the best upgrade as far as for use and safety. I would recommend looking into these first of any additions.

His website is Airtightclamps.com

Bon

Re: Bowmouldmaster Install Issue

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You could just rotate the template. ?I know the hood won’t be square to the front of the table, but that’s a solution I think. ?The curved work used with that hood won’t care if the hood is slightly skewed to the table or not.

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Finally installing the bowmouldmaster on my KF700. FWIW, it is the larger of the 2 hoods supplied by Aigner.

I used the template provided by Aigner to locate the 2 holes I need to drill and tap (M12-1.75). These will be used to secure the hood to the cast iron table.

There is an existing hole in the casting which will not allow me to drill the left side hole in the location indicated by the template. Picture below shows the left side hole’s punched location and the existing hole with black plug. The dot pointed to by the red arrow is the punch mark.

I can move both holes ~3/4” towards the rear and verified that I can clamp the hood throughout the required range as shown in the 2 pics below. I also checked the shallow curved stop even though only the tighter curve stop is shown in the pics.

I may need to drill another set if I need to move the hood forward for large dia cutters but I am hoping that one set will do.

Before I start drilling, I just wanted to run this past folks who have experience using this hood. You all see any issues?

Imran Malik

Re: Help Ripping - just got my first sliding table saw. Felder k700s

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I would like to pose a question to the group regarding the comments above…. I am in a small space with a K700S, and every inch of usability that I remove from the right side of the blade I pick up on the left side.  

Given this scenario, how would you all apportion the space?  Right side as small as possible to maximize cross-cut/outrigger capacity?  Is there a happy medium?

-David Gandy

Re: Help Ripping - just got my first sliding table saw. Felder k700s

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Sign your posts with a name so we know who you are.?

David Best - via mobile phone?

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On Oct 26, 2024, at 11:01?AM, Jonathan Maloney via groups.io <jonathanmaloney123@...> wrote:

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What do you mean by name please?

Re: Help Ripping - just got my first sliding table saw. Felder k700s

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This is how I recommend you set up your rip fence for use as both a conventional rip fence and as a bump stop:

DM me if you have questions. ?

David Best - via mobile phone?

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On Oct 26, 2024, at 5:04?AM, Jonathan Maloney via groups.io <jonathanmaloney123@...> wrote:

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Hi Everyone?

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I just joined the forum and there is so much helpful info, thanks everyone!

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I just got my k700s 2 weeks ago and would like some advice on ripping. My saw was setup by a Felder tech and he gave the rip fence a toe out. I don’t like when I use it as a bump stop and I find ripping harder than on my old cabinet saw.?

Any advice or tips on the rip fence and ripping would be greatly appreciated.?

I read the post about adding tape to the rip fence when using it as a stop. I think David Best wrote it. I have not tried it yet, but I will

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thanks for taking the time to read my post?

Re: Help Ripping - just got my first sliding table saw. Felder k700s

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The German BGHM guide, is the most informative I've seen, regarding the use of sliders.

All the best

Tom

Re: New Owner of K700S

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Dennis,

???????? I'm sure you will enjoy your new saw, but it is a different way of working and takes some time to adjust to it. But for me, it was certainly a game changer as far as precision and safety by doing 90 % of all cutting to the left of the blade. I usually only use the rip fence as a stop.?? I simply use Kreg bench clamps for hold downs as you will definitely need some way to hold material to the slider. But of course there are many options for that. I drilled small pieces of 1/2" thick aluminum to adapt the clamps to the slider. Some sort of parallel cutting device is another must have tool to get you started. ? Good luck, Tom Ruth

Re: Help Ripping - just got my first sliding table saw. Felder k700s

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He means that you should always sign your posts with your name at the end.

Like other stated, it is recommended to use the slider and/or a Frizt-n-Franz jig to rip anything on the left side of the blade.? That being said, I find that I still need to rip on the right side occasionally if the need arises.? An example would be a 6-8 foot long board that is 1-1/2" wide that I need to rip down to 1" wide.? Trying to do this on the slider has elements of inaccuracy because the long board can bend/fliex sideways to create a width that changes over the 6-8 feet.?

-Aaron Inami

Re: Help Ripping - just got my first sliding table saw. Felder k700s

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What do you mean by name please?

Re: Help Ripping - just got my first sliding table saw. Felder k700s

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Welcome to the club Jonathan,?

Best advice is to do your ripping to the left of the blade on the slider. I do mine in conjunction with the flip stop on the fence and Brian's parallel fence towards the rear of the slider. I also use a Fritz and Franz for ripping some smaller parts and tapers. The only thing I ever use the rip fence for is a bump stop.?

I also still have a cabinet saw, and will rip there occasionally.

Jason Holtz
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3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765

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Re: New Owner of K700S

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Welcome to the FOG. Brian is awesome. I’m in Tempe and if you ever get down here I’d love to show you my shop and chat. Brian taught me a lot. ?

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