Re: Sheet good recommendations
Andy, et al,
I just tripped over an interesting YouTube video that demonstrates using the Fusion 360 ¡°Configurations¡± facility (which requires a paid license to access) in conjunction with a library of 31 different cabinetry types. ?The guy even sells the library for $99 (link in the comments). ?It¡¯s worth watching and addresses directly some of the expressed concerns about assembly hardware etc. ?Here¡¯s the link - the video is really low resolution, but I think you¡¯ll get the gist of it:
I think if I were in the business of grinding out cabinets, and wanted to dedicate myself to Fusion as the design platform, this is probably the technique I would use and build a library of cabinet types with configuration option selections for all the variables. ?Worth watching IMO. ?It¡¯s only had 980 views, so make his day and watch it. ?I have not purchased his library or tried to use it, but the concepts are valid in the context of Fusion workflow.
David Best
DBestWorkshop@...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/
https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best
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On Jan 29, 2024, at 1:02?PM, Andy <andy.raynor08@...> wrote:
David - you are a wealth of information, thank you for sharing.?
I¡¯ve recently decided to add a cnc machine to the shop. I have a passing knowledge of fusion in that I can make a parametric model and etc.
One of the more daunting aspects of using Fusion as my go to software for design is that I cannot seem to find a reliable library for joinery and hardware for cabinet construction. ?Mozaik, KCD and others have Blum/Salice/Lamello/Festool built right into their models.
If I¡¯m just modeling a piece of furniture, then those aspects aren¡¯t as important, to me anyway. ?But if I¡¯m batching out a kitchen or closet then I want the cnc to place pilot holes, hinge cup holes and etc, as well as cut to dimension. ?I can¡¯t figure out an extension or library that actually contains hardware and joinery. ?I saw your video on how to incorporate Blum drawer slides into Fusion, perhaps I just have to suck it up and download all of the various CAD files (if they exist)
Do you know if there is a way, within Fusion 360 to change (parametrically) the hardware based on stock thickness or stock width? ?For instance, within Mozaik if I size a cabinet up, Mozaik will scribe a hardware line for my Lamello every 300mm. ?And if the stock thickness changes, so does the relevant Blum slide¡..
Ultimately I¡¯d like to ditch Mozaik and rely on Fusion to design and produce G code for the cnc, with Fusion having a parametric model of each cabinet type (base, tall, wall etc) with the ability to change hardware and joinery options as a parameter. ?If there is indeed a way to do this, I¡¯d happy signup and pay for a class (of classes) on how to.
Andy
Hi Tim,
My YouTube channel has a section and playlist devoted to Fusion 360 and its use in woodworking applications.? You can find it listed here:
Most of the tutorials I have created thus far are more advanced and illustrate the use of components in building an assembly and using joints to create functional drawer slides, etc. ?
I am working on a new tutorial series the is geared more to the woodworker using Fusion to design cabinets and bookshelves.? For this I will be using parameter-driven design workflows. ?
All but the most simple Fusion models I develop are driven by parameters so that changes can be easily made.? When the parameters include a bunch of logic and math, I prefer to manage the parameters external to Fusion and bring them into the model with an extension called ¡°Parameter I/O¡± available from the Fusion add-on web site.? To manage a complex set of parameter I use a spreadsheet that can output the required CSV file for import into Fusion.
For cabinets and bookshelves I have developed a spreadsheet template where I fill out various aspects of the cabinet design.? This version will handle a cabinet with up to six drawers or doors, and up to 5 divider shelves between the doors/drawers.? Here is a screenshot of the basic cabinet box specification which can be enter in imperial or metric - the yellow boxes are where the specifications are entered:
<ShotiMac_1999.jpeg>
The next section of the spreadsheet specifies the layout of the drawer/shelves with the heights specified as ratios between the drawer/door heights and the spreadsheet does the calculations to fit in the cabinet box as previously specified:
<ShotiMac_2001.jpeg>
And finally there is a section where the drawer/door and shelf aspects are specified including target reveals, setbacks, drawer slides, drawer box construction details are specified:
<ShotiMac_2002.jpeg>
The spreadsheet includes extensive help and input validation and a set of buttons to generate a sample cabinet, and output the parameters for input into Fusion: <ShotiMac_2004.jpeg>
As an example, here is the parameter file generated by the above set of cabinet specifications:
<ShotiMac_2005.jpeg>
And here are some examples of how the Fusion 360 model is altered by different parameters.? This is the sample cabinet:
<ShotiMac_2006.jpeg>
Below are two cabinets that would be typical of a kitchen base cabinet, one being a bank of 4 drawers, the other having one drawer and a door below:
<ShotiMac_2010.jpeg>
<ShotiMac_2009.jpeg>
And a simple bookcase with equally spaced shelves:
<ShotiMac_2011.jpeg>
Anyway that¡¯s where I¡¯m headed with this.? Let me know if you have questions or would like to dialog about this in a DM.
Hello to all,
Very interesting thread indeed. I am also in the early planning stages of a similar cabinet project(s). I'm also considering what materials are available here in Ohio.
David I am also using F360 for the the design stage. I am trying to establish a typical left and right side parametric model to use use with all the various cabinets I plan to build. Your drawings are very interesting and I will try to study them closely...the parameters in particular. If you have these listed on any of your website project files please let me know. I would to like to compare where i am going with mine.
I will try to post my progress as I can.
Thanks to all!
Tim Pond
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Re: Lamello Cantex for sale $2000
Mac?
I went down this rabbit hole in the past, the Hebor/Hoffman has been discontinued long enough that most parts are no longer supported. If memory serves correct there was some issue with the motor supplier that ruined what many say was the best lipping planer ever. The cantex is great, but it's a different approach for sure. The Virutex seems like the closest thing to the Hebor/Hoffmann knockoff? on could get today.
-Brett
?Wade I have to lamelo a biscuit joiner and a boat patcher both over 50 years old,¡¯ Never replaced anything on them they habe clutches so if you hit a screw or such it slips and save s the cutter.? I think my Hebor /Hoffman lipper is also 50 years old . Mac,,
Designing and building for 50 years On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:40?PM, Jack Decker via <vernaculardesign=[email protected]> wrote:
?Talk to Chris Hoffman at colonial saw. Still some parts Available and the carbide blades should be available indefinitely? Jack Decker
Vernacular Design
518 567 2051
?I bought replacement knives for my Cantex last year from??which is the importer for the USA.? I¡¯ve had mine for 20+ years and it is one of the most enjoyable and well built tools in my shop. ? David Best - via mobile phone? ? Hi James,
That¡¯s too bad they stopped making this.? What an awesome tool.? I wonder if parts will be hard to get if production has stopped as well?? I¡¯ve watch a few videos now and it¡¯s impressive anyways!
Thx,
Wade ? Wade,
Lamello Cantex was discontinued in 2018, it appears that Lamello did not sell this specialty tool a lot. It is a great tool for sure, just like other tools made by Lamello. Clearly Lamello is doing well selling Zeta P2 and its connectors.
Believe it or not, it was cheaper buying Cantex in Canada than in the USA before. It was CAD$ 1850 in 2015, I almost pulled the trigger to buy it.
There are alternative ways of trimming the hardwood edge banding. You can modify Festool MFK like Paul Marcel did?. Using this router bit?, you can trim up to 25mm wide edge banding. Of course, you do not want to remove like 5mm thick material using the router bit, but 1 or 2 mm should be just fine.
James Hi Joe Jensen,
Looks to be a nice tool to have for hardwood edge-banding.? Have you ever tested with melamine too?? Which model do you have?? Did a quick research, but can¡¯t find anyone who has them.
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 1, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? I put hardwood edges on all panels that I veneer and any veneered plywood. The Cantex is awesome.? On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:12?AM, Jack Decker via <vernaculardesign=[email protected]> wrote:
?As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you¡¯ve ever used a top 21 it¡¯s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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Re: Lamello Cantex for sale $2000
The Cantex handles this easily. ?I¡¯ve used it to hardwood edge Formica tops.?
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On Feb 1, 2024, at 3:31?PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Joe,
I was thinking more along the lines of a hardwood edge applied to the melamine and then running the machine along to flush it up without marring the melamine face.
Thx,
Wade On Feb 1, 2024, at 1:59 PM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? As far as I know I have the same as pictured. ?Mine came in a birch box with a fence. The cutters are carbide I think. I don¡¯t use melamine. It would do the tape for melamine but it would leave a sharp 90 degree edge.?
On Feb 1, 2024, at 12:01?PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Hi Joe Jensen,
Looks to be a nice tool to have for hardwood edge-banding. ?Have you ever tested with melamine too? ?Which model do you have? ?Did a quick research, but can¡¯t find anyone who has them.
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 1, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? I put hardwood edges on all panels that I veneer and any veneered plywood. The Cantex is awesome.? On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:12?AM, Jack Decker via groups.io <vernaculardesign@...> wrote:
?As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you¡¯ve ever used a top 21 it¡¯s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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Re: Lamello Cantex for sale $2000
? Wade I have to lamelo a biscuit joiner and a boat patcher both over 50 years old,¡¯ Never replaced anything on them they habe clutches so if you hit a screw or such it slips and save s the cutter.? I think my Hebor /Hoffman lipper is also 50 years old . Mac,,
Designing and building for 50 years
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On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:40?PM, Jack Decker via groups.io <vernaculardesign@...> wrote:
? Talk to Chris Hoffman at colonial saw. Still some parts Available and the carbide blades should be available indefinitely? Jack Decker
Vernacular Design
518 567 2051
On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:56?PM, David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:
? I bought replacement knives for my Cantex last year from??which is the importer for the USA. ?I¡¯ve had mine for 20+ years and it is one of the most enjoyable and well built tools in my shop. ? David Best - via mobile phone? On Feb 1, 2024, at 4:37?PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Hi James,
That¡¯s too bad they stopped making this. ?What an awesome tool. ?I wonder if parts will be hard to get if production has stopped as well? ?I¡¯ve watch a few videos now and it¡¯s impressive anyways!
Thx,
Wade On Feb 1, 2024, at 11:31 AM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? Wade,
Lamello Cantex was discontinued in 2018, it appears that Lamello did not sell this specialty tool a lot. It is a great tool for sure, just like other tools made by Lamello. Clearly Lamello is doing well selling Zeta P2 and its connectors.
Believe it or not, it was cheaper buying Cantex in Canada than in the USA before. It was CAD$ 1850 in 2015, I almost pulled the trigger to buy it.
There are alternative ways of trimming the hardwood edge banding. You can modify Festool MFK like Paul Marcel did?. Using this router bit?, you can trim up to 25mm wide edge banding. Of course, you do not want to remove like 5mm thick material using the router bit, but 1 or 2 mm should be just fine.
James Hi Joe Jensen,
Looks to be a nice tool to have for hardwood edge-banding.? Have you ever tested with melamine too?? Which model do you have?? Did a quick research, but can¡¯t find anyone who has them.
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 1, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? I put hardwood edges on all panels that I veneer and any veneered plywood. The Cantex is awesome.? On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:12?AM, Jack Decker via <vernaculardesign=[email protected]> wrote:
?As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you¡¯ve ever used a top 21 it¡¯s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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Talk to Chris Hoffman at colonial saw. Still some parts Available and the carbide blades should be available indefinitely? Jack Decker
Vernacular Design
518 567 2051
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On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:56?PM, David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:
? I bought replacement knives for my Cantex last year from??which is the importer for the USA. ?I¡¯ve had mine for 20+ years and it is one of the most enjoyable and well built tools in my shop. ? David Best - via mobile phone? On Feb 1, 2024, at 4:37?PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Hi James,
That¡¯s too bad they stopped making this. ?What an awesome tool. ?I wonder if parts will be hard to get if production has stopped as well? ?I¡¯ve watch a few videos now and it¡¯s impressive anyways!
Thx,
Wade On Feb 1, 2024, at 11:31 AM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? Wade,
Lamello Cantex was discontinued in 2018, it appears that Lamello did not sell this specialty tool a lot. It is a great tool for sure, just like other tools made by Lamello. Clearly Lamello is doing well selling Zeta P2 and its connectors.
Believe it or not, it was cheaper buying Cantex in Canada than in the USA before. It was CAD$ 1850 in 2015, I almost pulled the trigger to buy it.
There are alternative ways of trimming the hardwood edge banding. You can modify Festool MFK like Paul Marcel did?. Using this router bit?, you can trim up to 25mm wide edge banding. Of course, you do not want to remove like 5mm thick material using the router bit, but 1 or 2 mm should be just fine.
James Hi Joe Jensen,
Looks to be a nice tool to have for hardwood edge-banding.? Have you ever tested with melamine too?? Which model do you have?? Did a quick research, but can¡¯t find anyone who has them.
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 1, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? I put hardwood edges on all panels that I veneer and any veneered plywood. The Cantex is awesome.? On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:12?AM, Jack Decker via <vernaculardesign=[email protected]> wrote:
?As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you¡¯ve ever used a top 21 it¡¯s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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I bought replacement knives for my Cantex last year from??which is the importer for the USA. ?I¡¯ve had mine for 20+ years and it is one of the most enjoyable and well built tools in my shop. ? David Best - via mobile phone?
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On Feb 1, 2024, at 4:37?PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Hi James,
That¡¯s too bad they stopped making this. ?What an awesome tool. ?I wonder if parts will be hard to get if production has stopped as well? ?I¡¯ve watch a few videos now and it¡¯s impressive anyways!
Thx,
Wade On Feb 1, 2024, at 11:31 AM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? Wade,
Lamello Cantex was discontinued in 2018, it appears that Lamello did not sell this specialty tool a lot. It is a great tool for sure, just like other tools made by Lamello. Clearly Lamello is doing well selling Zeta P2 and its connectors.
Believe it or not, it was cheaper buying Cantex in Canada than in the USA before. It was CAD$ 1850 in 2015, I almost pulled the trigger to buy it.
There are alternative ways of trimming the hardwood edge banding. You can modify Festool MFK like Paul Marcel did?. Using this router bit?, you can trim up to 25mm wide edge banding. Of course, you do not want to remove like 5mm thick material using the router bit, but 1 or 2 mm should be just fine.
James Hi Joe Jensen,
Looks to be a nice tool to have for hardwood edge-banding.? Have you ever tested with melamine too?? Which model do you have?? Did a quick research, but can¡¯t find anyone who has them.
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 1, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? I put hardwood edges on all panels that I veneer and any veneered plywood. The Cantex is awesome.? On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:12?AM, Jack Decker via <vernaculardesign=[email protected]> wrote:
?As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you¡¯ve ever used a top 21 it¡¯s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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Hi James,
That¡¯s too bad they stopped making this. ?What an awesome tool. ?I wonder if parts will be hard to get if production has stopped as well? ?I¡¯ve watch a few videos now and it¡¯s impressive anyways!
Thx,
Wade
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On Feb 1, 2024, at 11:31 AM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? Wade,
Lamello Cantex was discontinued in 2018, it appears that Lamello did not sell this specialty tool a lot. It is a great tool for sure, just like other tools made by Lamello. Clearly Lamello is doing well selling Zeta P2 and its connectors.
Believe it or not, it was cheaper buying Cantex in Canada than in the USA before. It was CAD$ 1850 in 2015, I almost pulled the trigger to buy it.
There are alternative ways of trimming the hardwood edge banding. You can modify Festool MFK like Paul Marcel did?. Using this router bit?, you can trim up to 25mm wide edge banding. Of course, you do not want to remove like 5mm thick material using the router bit, but 1 or 2 mm should be just fine.
James Hi Joe Jensen,
Looks to be a nice tool to have for hardwood edge-banding.? Have you ever tested with melamine too?? Which model do you have?? Did a quick research, but can¡¯t find anyone who has them.
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 1, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? I put hardwood edges on all panels that I veneer and any veneered plywood. The Cantex is awesome.? On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:12?AM, Jack Decker via <vernaculardesign=[email protected]> wrote:
?As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you¡¯ve ever used a top 21 it¡¯s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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Veneering: Substrate & Supplier
Looking for recommendations on best substrate for veneering rift white oak for kitchen slab cabinets.? Also a preferred supplier who can provide multiple matching sheets.??
I recently made the cabinet drawers for a bathroom using GL Veneer premium rift white veneer with 10 Mil backer.? Two 3/8 MDF, cupped side were Total Boat epoxied together.? Glued 5/8 wide rift white oak hardwood to all 4 sides using Titebond 3.? Veneered using vacuum pump and Unibond One.? Clear coat was Renner 851.? My results were very good but not great.? The veneer looks great but the drawers are not 100% flat.??
The kitchen cabinets doors and drawers will be larger. Multiple matching veneers from GL is? $300 plus per sheet.? Suggestions on products and process to improve on???
I appreciate your thoughts.
Storm
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Re: Lamello Cantex for sale $2000
Joe,
I was thinking more along the lines of a hardwood edge applied to the melamine and then running the machine along to flush it up without marring the melamine face.
Thx,
Wade
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On Feb 1, 2024, at 1:59 PM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? As far as I know I have the same as pictured. ?Mine came in a birch box with a fence. The cutters are carbide I think. I don¡¯t use melamine. It would do the tape for melamine but it would leave a sharp 90 degree edge.?
On Feb 1, 2024, at 12:01?PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Hi Joe Jensen,
Looks to be a nice tool to have for hardwood edge-banding. ?Have you ever tested with melamine too? ?Which model do you have? ?Did a quick research, but can¡¯t find anyone who has them.
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 1, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? I put hardwood edges on all panels that I veneer and any veneered plywood. The Cantex is awesome.? On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:12?AM, Jack Decker via groups.io <vernaculardesign@...> wrote:
?As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you¡¯ve ever used a top 21 it¡¯s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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As far as I know I have the same as pictured. ?Mine came in a birch box with a fence. The cutters are carbide I think. I don¡¯t use melamine. It would do the tape for melamine but it would leave a sharp 90 degree edge.?
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On Feb 1, 2024, at 12:01?PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Hi Joe Jensen,
Looks to be a nice tool to have for hardwood edge-banding. ?Have you ever tested with melamine too? ?Which model do you have? ?Did a quick research, but can¡¯t find anyone who has them.
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 1, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? I put hardwood edges on all panels that I veneer and any veneered plywood. The Cantex is awesome.? On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:12?AM, Jack Decker via groups.io <vernaculardesign@...> wrote:
?As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you¡¯ve ever used a top 21 it¡¯s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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Re: Lamello Cantex for sale $2000
Hi Kevin,
I¡¯d like to purchase your Cantex. Thanks.
Best Regards, Ryan Baniaga
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On Jan 31, 2024, at 12:38?PM, Kevin Eagan <Keagan235@...> wrote:
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Re: Felder K 700 S comsidering.
The K700S can be had with a lot of different options. Folks in this group can help identify the ones you might not even think about. Processes with a slider are not the same as with a cabinet saw, so if you don¡¯t have experience with a slider you might not know how significant some of the options are.
I like my slider, except for ripping. Ripping with a slider seems to be more tedious than with a cabinet saw (people will disagree with me on that).
You¡¯ll find that the build quality of a K700S is far superior to a SawStop.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S and A941
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Re: Felder K 700 S comsidering.
Welcome. What sort of projects do you see yourself building? I havent owned an Altendorf, but i infer that their flagship line is 'up there' with Martin and scm's?L'invicibile. Which is all to say, im confident?it's more saw than ill ever need or require, but something to dream about. However, if you build small to medium size pieces of furniture, then i think you will find a K700S(or similar make from another manufacturer) to be more than up to the task. I have an older 2005-2006 KF700, and I dont have a reason to complain. Sure, it could be larger with a gigantic cast iron top like the Martin saws. Or, i could take videos of me jumping up and down on the fully extended slider with little deflection, but practically speaking my joinery is mostly perfect with the Felder. I can see another user being a little disappointed in my saw if their intended use was straightlining very large and thick slabs. Or, if you are cutting 3/4"+ melamine sheets all day long. I owned other vintage saws, and the build was much more robust than my KF700. It isnt flimsy, but i always find myself gently lowering workpieces onto the table and outrigger. Ive been in pro shops with bigger saws, and their workers constantly slamming sheet goods onto the slider. Still, those machines cut well day in and day out. I think that is what i kinda come back to when comparing the ultra premium machines. They hold tolerances much better under hard use. For the majority of us, i dont?think you will notice an appreciable cut difference on most materials. If you havent used a decent slider before, i think you will come away impressed by the ease, speed, and accuracy. I built memorable things on my delta unisaw, but working with a very accurate crosscut fence and stop is unbelievably nice. Your first time cutting up sheet goods on a slider will be transformative. I remember being blown away by how little i had to pick up the sheet, and how square my parts were compared to a track saw/cabinet saw. I picked up a small oliver saw to compliment the felder, but it does 90% of the lifting. I save the oliver for wider dados, and funky cuts where its easier to build a quick jig.?
One counterpoint towards safety. I think sliding saws are slightly safer machines than a typical cabinet saw, but they will still cut your hand off if you let them. I see that point come up comparing sliding saws' safety to sawstop, and i dont?buy that. If you are unsure about your abilities or you lack confidence around machines, then the sawstop is something to consider keeping. Clamps, FF jigs, parallel guides, etc. are all devices to keep your hands away from the blade on a slider, but i routinely rip lumber using the rip fence and that is no different than the same operation on a cabinet saw.?
Patrick
One big reason for buying Felder is this group.....the guys in this community here are unbelievably?helpful. Had a quick look for an Altendorf?community......it took me to the FOG k 700 s is a great saw.
For me, purchasing a slider was, and remains, more about safety, precision, and ease-of-use... relative to a cabinet saw.
I rarely work with sheet goods. However, my K700S remains the center of my woodworking via keeping me away from the line-of-cut, and its ability to dial-in hairline adjustments, achieve dead-on miters, and safely process 8/4+ materials.?
I find the K700S to be an excellent value, relative to the higher-quality, more electronically-capable versions.
That said, it is an investment, and you need to use it. I've abused mine for several years now, and it's as accurate as the day delivered.
Welcome to the Forum.
On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 09:42:40 AM EST, imranindiana < imranindiana@...> wrote:
I am sorry but I also wanted to thank you for your service and happy retirement ? ? Hello,
This is my first post and joined yesterday.? I¡¯ve been seriously considering purchasing a new K 700 S.? I am a firefighter in Michigan and soon will be retiring.? I am a hobbies woodworker now but hope to supplement my pension with a small amount from woodworking.? I currently have a saw stop.? I¡¯ve spoken to Altendorf as well but that machine is literally double the price of the K700S.? I was wondering if I should, first off, pull the trigger and buy a slider and also, is the Altendorf (WA 80) THAT much better than the Felder? ?
I appreciate this site as I have found lots of great information in my research.?
Thank you in advance.?
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Mike D.
Annapolis, MD
AD951; K700S; N4400
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Kindest Regards
Jonathan Samways
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Re: Lamello Cantex for sale $2000
Wade,
Lamello Cantex was discontinued in 2018, it appears that Lamello did not sell this specialty tool a lot. It is a great tool for sure, just like other tools made by Lamello. Clearly Lamello is doing well selling Zeta P2 and its connectors.
Believe it or not, it was cheaper buying Cantex in Canada than in the USA before. It was CAD$ 1850 in 2015, I almost pulled the trigger to buy it.
There are alternative ways of trimming the hardwood edge banding. You can modify Festool MFK like Paul Marcel did?. Using this router bit?, you can trim up to 25mm wide edge banding. Of course, you do not want to remove like 5mm thick material using the router bit, but 1 or 2 mm should be just fine.
James
Hi Joe Jensen,
Looks to be a nice tool to have for hardwood edge-banding.? Have you ever tested with melamine too?? Which model do you have?? Did a quick research, but can¡¯t find anyone who has them.
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 1, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? I put hardwood edges on all panels that I veneer and any veneered plywood. The Cantex is awesome.? On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:12?AM, Jack Decker via <vernaculardesign=[email protected]> wrote:
?As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you¡¯ve ever used a top 21 it¡¯s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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Re: Lamello Cantex for sale $2000
Hi Joe Jensen,
Looks to be a nice tool to have for hardwood edge-banding. ?Have you ever tested with melamine too? ?Which model do you have? ?Did a quick research, but can¡¯t find anyone who has them.
Thx,
Wade
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On Feb 1, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? I put hardwood edges on all panels that I veneer and any veneered plywood. The Cantex is awesome.? On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:12?AM, Jack Decker via groups.io <vernaculardesign@...> wrote:
?As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you¡¯ve ever used a top 21 it¡¯s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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Re: Valchromat for cabinet construction
I used dominos. If we could get a distributor in the Austin area I'd use it far more.
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Re: Felder K 700 S comsidering.
One big reason for buying Felder is this group.....the guys in this community here are unbelievably?helpful. Had a quick look for an Altendorf?community......it took me to the FOG k 700 s is a great saw.
For me, purchasing a slider was, and remains, more about safety, precision, and ease-of-use... relative to a cabinet saw.
I rarely work with sheet goods. However, my K700S remains the center of my woodworking via keeping me away from the line-of-cut, and its ability to dial-in hairline adjustments, achieve dead-on miters, and safely process 8/4+ materials.?
I find the K700S to be an excellent value, relative to the higher-quality, more electronically-capable versions.
That said, it is an investment, and you need to use it. I've abused mine for several years now, and it's as accurate as the day delivered.
Welcome to the Forum.
On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 09:42:40 AM EST, imranindiana < imranindiana@...> wrote:
I am sorry but I also wanted to thank you for your service and happy retirement ? ? Hello,
This is my first post and joined yesterday.? I¡¯ve been seriously considering purchasing a new K 700 S.? I am a firefighter in Michigan and soon will be retiring.? I am a hobbies woodworker now but hope to supplement my pension with a small amount from woodworking.? I currently have a saw stop.? I¡¯ve spoken to Altendorf as well but that machine is literally double the price of the K700S.? I was wondering if I should, first off, pull the trigger and buy a slider and also, is the Altendorf (WA 80) THAT much better than the Felder? ?
I appreciate this site as I have found lots of great information in my research.?
Thank you in advance.?
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Mike D.
Annapolis, MD
AD951; K700S; N4400
-- Kindest Regards
Jonathan Samways
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Re: Felder K 700 S comsidering.
For me, purchasing a slider was, and remains, more about safety, precision, and ease-of-use... relative to a cabinet saw.
I rarely work with sheet goods. However, my K700S remains the center of my woodworking via keeping me away from the line-of-cut, and its ability to dial-in hairline adjustments, achieve dead-on miters, and safely process 8/4+ materials.?
I find the K700S to be an excellent value, relative to the higher-quality, more electronically-capable versions.
That said, it is an investment, and you need to use it. I've abused mine for several years now, and it's as accurate as the day delivered.
Welcome to the Forum.
On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 09:42:40 AM EST, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
I am sorry but I also wanted to thank you for your service and happy retirement ?
On Feb 1, 2024, at 9:02?AM, jcorrado72@... wrote: ? Hello,
This is my first post and joined yesterday. ?I¡¯ve been seriously considering purchasing a new K 700 S. ?I am a firefighter in Michigan and soon will be retiring. ?I am a hobbies woodworker now but hope to supplement my pension with a small amount from woodworking. ?I currently have a saw stop. ?I¡¯ve spoken to Altendorf as well but that machine is literally double the price of the K700S. ?I was wondering if I should, first off, pull the trigger and buy a slider and also, is the Altendorf (WA 80) THAT much better than the Felder? ?
I appreciate this site as I have found lots of great information in my research.?
Thank you in advance.?
-- Mike D. Annapolis, MD AD951; K700S; N4400
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Re: Lamello Cantex for sale $2000
I put hardwood edges on all panels that I veneer and any veneered plywood. The Cantex is awesome.?
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On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:12?AM, Jack Decker via groups.io <vernaculardesign@...> wrote:
?As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you¡¯ve ever used a top 21 it¡¯s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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Re: Felder K 700 S comsidering.
Not sure where you are located, but there are a bunch of used machine out there right now!
PK
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Joe Jensen
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PK