I appreciate all of these replies!
I am not sure what you mean by fine joinery (all we do is mighty fine, right?)
The last time I bought blades was long ago, and I thought rip blades were flat-top and fewer teeth, like Jeff said. Some call a rip blade one with a steep rake angle and a deep gullet, and that describes the ATB “rip” blade I bought from Tenryu. It seems to work pretty well, although I have not done much ripping with my new saw yet.
The most demanding thing I would do with this blade is cut slots and rabbets for small box lids. I could do that with a router table, but I have done it quickly and easily with an FTG rip blade on my old cabinet saw. I’ve done channels for drawer bottoms, as well as slots/dados for door panels and larger rabbets with it also.
My old blades are all Systematic. Years ago they were supposed to be good blades, but apparently they sold out to someone who produces some poor products.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Re: For sale: Hammer B3 & A3-31
#forsale
Prices look too low for today's market.? Good luck.
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Thanks David and Mark,
John did not mention fine joinery rather flat bottom cuts so I thought I had the perfect option for him. No Problem.
Wonder if Leitz offers one in Aqua marine (Mauve to the color blind crowd ?).
Imran
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On Mar 17, 2022, at 10:51 PM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote: ? Imran, I have two of those - they are great for grooving drawer bottoms and the like, but not good for joinery.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
Felder offers this (currently out of stock) with 4mm kerf.
Imran ?I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.
I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.
Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Haha! I’ll keep that in mind. Unfortunately the double postage between us would likely dampen our enthusiasm for a swap!
Warm regards,
David
Dr David Luckensmeyer
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Lucky, I’ll trade you my (unused) 8-degree dovetail blade for something if you want. ?LOL
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
On Mar 17, 2022, at 7:51 PM, David Luckensmeyer < dhluckens@...> wrote:
That’s a nice blade. I want that blade!
Warm regards,
Lucky
Dr David Luckensmeyer
I had Leitz custom grind one of their standard blades specifically for joinery work. ?I believe the up-charge was about $25 over the cost of the new blade which was about $130. ?I recommend
you call?Mark Gallagher at Leitz in Kent WA (he’s the closest to you and services Boise) at??(253) 651-8977?, and tell him what you need. ?You can also email him: ? mgallagher@...
This is the specific blade I had them grind to flat-top. ?It’s 300mm diameter, with 72 teeth. ?You could reference their part number when you talk with Mark if this is the configuration you want.
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I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.
I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.
Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Lucky, I’ll trade you my (unused) 8-degree dovetail blade for something if you want. ?LOL
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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On Mar 17, 2022, at 7:51 PM, David Luckensmeyer < dhluckens@...> wrote:
That’s a nice blade. I want that blade!
Warm regards,
Lucky
Dr David Luckensmeyer
I had Leitz custom grind one of their standard blades specifically for joinery work. ?I believe the up-charge was about $25 over the cost of the new blade which was about $130. ?I recommend
you call?Mark Gallagher at Leitz in Kent WA (he’s the closest to you and services Boise) at??(253) 651-8977?, and tell him what you need. ?You can also email him: ? mgallagher@...
This is the specific blade I had them grind to flat-top. ?It’s 300mm diameter, with 72 teeth. ?You could reference their part number when you talk with Mark if this is the configuration you want.
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I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.
I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.
Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Re: Airtight Clamps on a K700S
Mike, if you sweet talk Kyle, he will special order you a feeder in a nice neutral grey instead of the s**t-brindle-brown. ?Here’s mine:
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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Well that got more attention than anticipated.
1. Yes the slider will lock in 2 positions if the arrows are nicely lined up. Like threading a needle.
2. The red stripe is a reminder to not wrap my fingers under the slider in this lowered position.
3. Moving an air clamp over will interfere with the overhead guard if I interpret the suggestion correctly. I like the idea of a tiny cylinder or two in the lower slider that press up under the table to lock it in? Imran can even make a remote for it…In Mauve.?
4. Why are the comatic feeders such an ugly color?
5. The long T nut accessory over around 4” wouldn’t slide in over the handle (see Imran’s photo showing the cut notch). I posted a 3D printed?insert to use festool clamps prior to getting Macs clamps.
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Mike B
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Imran, I have two of those - they are great for grooving drawer bottoms and the like, but not good for joinery.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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Felder offers this (currently out of stock) with 4mm kerf.
Imran ?I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.
I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.
Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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That’s a nice blade. I want that blade!
Warm regards,
Lucky
Dr David Luckensmeyer
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I had Leitz custom grind one of their standard blades specifically for joinery work. ?I believe the up-charge was about $25 over the cost of the new blade which was about $130. ?I recommend
you call?Mark Gallagher at Leitz in Kent WA (he’s the closest to you and services Boise) at??(253) 651-8977?, and tell him what you need. ?You can also email him: ? mgallagher@...
This is the specific blade I had them grind to flat-top. ?It’s 300mm diameter, with 72 teeth. ?You could reference their part number when you talk with Mark if this is the configuration you want.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.
I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.
Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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I had Leitz custom grind one of their standard blades specifically for joinery work. ?I believe the up-charge was about $25 over the cost of the new blade which was about $130. ?I recommend you call?Mark Gallagher at Leitz in Kent WA (he’s the closest to you and services Boise) at??(253) 651-8977?, and tell him what you need. ?You can also email him: ? mgallagher@...
This is the specific blade I had them grind to flat-top. ?It’s 300mm diameter, with 72 teeth. ?You could reference their part number when you talk with Mark if this is the configuration you want.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.
I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.
Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Re: I’m on the fence, about choosing a parallel fence.
After having the Felder option for years collecting dust it has become quite useful this past week in combination with Brian’s version and the less talked about Lamb Toolworks fence digital stop.
Having a narrow shop and believing I had a brilliant layout needing only 24” to the right of the blade I proceeded to place my RL160 behind the slider. Fast forward and I need 30” cabinet backs, out comes Brian’s parallel guide. Too short, darn. Felder version to the rescue but who wants analogue after the reassuring digital displays? The solution is using the digital fence upgrade and a stick with mag block on the table for copying distances. For this reason, anyone with an analogue main crosscut fence doing sheet work may benefit from upgrading the fence first, then getting the Felder set for the large support table and later round out the suite with one or two lamb parallel guides.
For setting the crosscut extension accurately I made a stick that references the back side of the digital stop. The stick is 35.376” long and accounts for the actual stop thickness so I need only subtract a clean 36” from my desired length. Another highlight for this digital upgrade along with its exceptionally smooth movement.
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Mike B
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Re: Airtight Clamps on a K700S
Well that got more attention than anticipated.
1. Yes the slider will lock in 2 positions if the arrows are nicely lined up. Like threading a needle.
2. The red stripe is a reminder to not wrap my fingers under the slider in this lowered position.
3. Moving an air clamp over will interfere with the overhead guard if I interpret the suggestion correctly. I like the idea of a tiny cylinder or two in the lower slider that press up under the table to lock it in? Imran can even make a remote for it…In Mauve.?
4. Why are the comatic feeders such an ugly color?
5. The long T nut accessory over around 4” wouldn’t slide in over the handle (see Imran’s photo showing the cut notch). I posted a 3D printed?insert to use festool clamps prior to getting Macs clamps.
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Mike B
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Aren't all rip blades FTG?? That said, as in Lucky's example above, I recently sent of the combination blade that came with my (you should pardon the expression) SawStop to be ground flat at 10 degrees for use with a dovetail sled.? It cost $25.00, was returned to me in 48 hours, including shipping, and works perfectly.? I sent it to CT Saw & Tool () and can personally highly recommend them.? Jeff
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 9:51 PM David Luckensmeyer < dhluckens@...> wrote:
John, do you have a Leitz rep in your area? Leitz have an enormous catalog of tooling and I’ve bought several blades from them which are “blanks” in that the carbide teeth are flat, ready for whatever profile the customer wants. I took one blade “as is” which
makes perfectly flat-bottomed grooves at 3.2mm widths, and I had a second blade ground “all one way” at 8 degrees so I could use it for machine cut dovetails.?
Warm regards,
Lucky
Dr David Luckensmeyer
I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.
I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.
Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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I bought a Leitz from my local saw sharpening shop and he reground it so it cuts a true flat bottom. I use it for fine detail hardwood joint work.
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On Mar 17, 2022, at 19:03, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
? Imran i have that one, good for just plowing a groove but i didn’t like it for joinery like a bridal joint. The Freud I bought (link below) is really good for that. On Mar 17, 2022, at 9:59 PM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Felder offers this (currently out of stock) with 4mm kerf.
Imran
On Mar 17, 2022, at 9:46 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.
I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.
Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Mark Foster
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Hello John,
Here is one of Freud's offerings: ?https://www.amazon.com/300-2-7-30-FLAT-ICE/dp/B00AHVUJ8U/ref=pd_sbs_3/145-8295320-0490839?pd_rd_w=FYQhp&pf_rd_p=4b6b5072-e9bd-4f30-a3af-a1f5d52978ec&pf_rd_r=M7Z909JTFVSX3MRF5429&pd_rd_r=6a7e30c5-561a-4ff3-a635-ae4113025f5e&pd_rd_wg=ba24h&pd_rd_i=B00AHVUJ8U&psc=1
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Imran i have that one, good for just plowing a groove but i didn’t like it for joinery like a bridal joint. The Freud I bought (link below) is really good for that.
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On Mar 17, 2022, at 9:59 PM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Felder offers this (currently out of stock) with 4mm kerf.
Imran
On Mar 17, 2022, at 9:46 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.
I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.
Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Felder offers this (currently out of stock) with 4mm kerf.
Imran
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On Mar 17, 2022, at 9:46 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote: ?I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.
I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.
Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Yes you can have it re-bored, i have also had an atb reground at one point in the past.
Here is one i recently bought but i think it’s a thin kerf.
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On Mar 17, 2022, at 9:46 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.
I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.
Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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John, do you have a Leitz rep in your area? Leitz have an enormous catalog of tooling and I’ve bought several blades from them which are “blanks” in that the carbide teeth are flat, ready for whatever profile the customer wants. I took one blade “as is” which
makes perfectly flat-bottomed grooves at 3.2mm widths, and I had a second blade ground “all one way” at 8 degrees so I could use it for machine cut dovetails.?
Warm regards,
Lucky
Dr David Luckensmeyer
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I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.
I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.
Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.
I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.
Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Re: Retiring and Selloing Everthing
You should also consider your selling motivation/strategy. For example, your Hammer A3/41 will sell in a heartbeat if your price is 'reasonable'. That's fine if you want to just get rid of stress about selling the stuff and giving someone a gift. (I'm pretty sure that would describe me).
If you want to get as much as you can, price it higher than reasonable and wait a bit.
I put my Hammer a3/31 up for sale here and on Craigslist and had at least five serious buyers in a couple of hours. I sold it the next day. I was fine with it and the new owner was delighted, but it was likely priced too low. It won't take too much research to find the right price to sell it. And if you are too low, you'll know in hours.
Lots of Hammer J/P sell here, and the buyers have done their homework.
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