Re: Fritz and Fran jigs

#122023

I built a very basic one. It has worked well for me and I keep saying I build a better one. But since the basic one does what I need it to do I have yet to build a better nicer one.

I have seen some very nice and very over engineered ones here. But I guess that is what we Felder owners do.

Re: Eagerly awaiting info on the new Felder FW 850...

#122022

I own a Houfek 950 Single Head Wide Belt Sander.? ?I purchased it in 2016.? ?Happy to answer any questions you may have.? ?When I bought?it, it was between the Houfek 950 and the SCM 1 single head.? I went Houfek.?

Rick?

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On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 1:00 PM Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:

Anyone familiar with the quality and reliability of the Houfeks? At that pricing i might back out of the used scm

Regards, Mark

On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:31 PM, Albert Lee <timbershelf@...> wrote:

?I have a full price list of Houfek, they are made in Czech.?

Smaller Houfek sander say Bulldog 3, with platen, working width 650mm/7.5hp, starts at 10k Euro, if you apply 30% discount as per the email its roughly 7k Euro...? which is about 8k USD in 2020. not sure about now.?

Below are some snap shot of the Bulldog specs.?

Re: Eagerly awaiting info on the new Felder FW 850...

#122021

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Give Chris Peterson at comprehensiverepair.com.? He repairs WB and might have an opinion.? He has always answered my questions and I've bought spare parts from him.? Dave

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Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 4:00 PM
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Anyone familiar with the quality and reliability of the Houfeks? At that pricing i might back out of the used scm

Regards, Mark

On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:31 PM, Albert Lee <timbershelf@...> wrote:

?I have a full price list of Houfek, they are made in Czech.?

Smaller Houfek sander say Bulldog 3, with platen, working width 650mm/7.5hp, starts at 10k Euro, if you apply 30% discount as per the email its roughly 7k Euro...? which is about 8k USD in 2020. not sure about now.?

Below are some snap shot of the Bulldog specs.?

Re: Eagerly awaiting info on the new Felder FW 850...

#122020

What is the planer looking bar on the Houfek?

Dave Davies

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On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 3:00 PM Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:

Anyone familiar with the quality and reliability of the Houfeks? At that pricing i might back out of the used scm

Regards, Mark

On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:31 PM, Albert Lee <timbershelf@...> wrote:

?I have a full price list of Houfek, they are made in Czech.?

Smaller Houfek sander say Bulldog 3, with platen, working width 650mm/7.5hp, starts at 10k Euro, if you apply 30% discount as per the email its roughly 7k Euro...? which is about 8k USD in 2020. not sure about now.?

Below are some snap shot of the Bulldog specs.?

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Re: Eagerly awaiting info on the new Felder FW 850...

#122019

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Anyone familiar with the quality and reliability of the Houfeks? At that pricing i might back out of the used scm

Regards, Mark

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On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:31 PM, Albert Lee <timbershelf@...> wrote:

?I have a full price list of Houfek, they are made in Czech.?

Smaller Houfek sander say Bulldog 3, with platen, working width 650mm/7.5hp, starts at 10k Euro, if you apply 30% discount as per the email its roughly 7k Euro...? which is about 8k USD in 2020. not sure about now.?

Below are some snap shot of the Bulldog specs.?

Re: Eagerly awaiting info on the new Felder FW 850...

#122018

I have a full price list of Houfek, they are made in Czech.?

Smaller Houfek sander say Bulldog 3, with platen, working width 650mm/7.5hp, starts at 10k Euro, if you apply 30% discount as per the email its roughly 7k Euro...? which is about 8k USD in 2020. not sure about now.?

Below are some snap shot of the Bulldog specs.?

Re: Felder/Hammer setup in a small space

#122017

It was in Portland.?

Re: Felder/Hammer setup in a small space

#122016

In what city you find the KF00? Was it in the Chicago area?

Thanks,
Karl

Re: Fritz and Fran jigs

#122015

Suggestion is to make a basic one first, learn from usage of that and decide if it's worthwhile to either buy a commercially available one or develop a version better suited for one's needs and use-cases.?

F&F, I have found, is a somewhat personal tool and there are many variations to it.?

Re: Hammer A3-31 issue

#122014

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FWIW, I have 2 types of extension tables that go on Flat bar - F type. Assuming this is what you have on this machine, both of these have adjustment screws to make the table level with machine surface. So a slight adjustment should not affect your ability to use an extension table properly.

The two I use are:

I be darn, not sure what one would get if you order this cast iron table. Mine has height adj screws as shown in the pic with planer (arrows) but website also has a pic w/o the two height adj screws.

Imran

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On Mar 9, 2022, at 11:14 AM, jem@... wrote:

?I have the same issue with my A3-26, and I've been advised by Felder's customer service to raise the bar on the infeed side of the machine that holds the fence. This will obviously lift the infeed end of the fence off the infeed table. I don't have an extension table on the infeed side of the machine, so I don't know what effect this will have on the height of such an extension table in the future. I imagine that the raising of the bar will have to be infinitesimal to not have a detrimental effect on the use of an extension table, should I buy one.

Re: Hammer A3-31 issue

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#122013

I have the same issue with my A3-26, and I've been advised by Felder's customer service to raise the bar on the infeed side of the machine that holds the fence. This will obviously lift the infeed end of the fence off the infeed table. I don't have an extension table on the infeed side of the machine, so I don't know what effect this will have on the height of such an extension table in the future. I imagine that the raising of the bar will have to be infinitesimal to not have a detrimental effect on the use of an extension table, should I buy one.

Re: Eagerly awaiting info on the new Felder FW 850...

#122012

Apparently the FW 850 will be debuting in August at the IWF.

Search continues.

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On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 6:57 AM <tom@...> wrote:

That Houfek CINDY machine looks neat. I ultimately opted for the North State 16” machine, but would be terribly curious to hear if anybody has/had any experience with the Houfek machines, particularly after sales service support.?
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Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN

Re: saw setup pics

#122011

Hit send too soon on the draft, I think this is the detail you were looking for. Credit to my former neighbor who owned the saw before I did for doing this. It's very nice.

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On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 11:31 PM Bob Wise via <bob=[email protected]> wrote:

That is a melamine top on the table

Bird Cupps

Tuesday, March 8, 2022 7:46 AM

Having just completed my own duct work, I’ll second the saw envy. I used a cut-off saw which was more time consuming than a grinder because the pipe wouldn’t fit under the blade, but I think I could keep my cuts a little more square.

Bob, is that melamine on the saw’s outrigger your own build? That looks pretty nice.

Thanks for the shop pictures.

Bird Cupps
Running Chicken Farm
Mount Horeb, WI

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Re: Hammer A3-31 issue

Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq.

#122010

On 3/8/22 2:45 PM, Brian Lamb wrote:
I suspect there is enough clearance on the bolts that hold the bracket on the back of that extrusion to loosen and tilt it slightly.
Your suspicion is spot on

Re: Hammer A3-31 issue

Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq.

#122009

On 3/8/22 2:24 PM, Kevin Wells wrote:
Dummy me actually made this mistake. Once
How many times pushing on the door? that says Pull did it take to
realize the error?

Re: Eagerly awaiting info on the new Felder FW 850...

#122008

That Houfek CINDY machine looks neat. I ultimately opted for the North State 16” machine, but would be terribly curious to hear if anybody has/had any experience with the Houfek machines, particularly after sales service support.?
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN

Re: Fritz and Fran jigs

#122007

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Regards, Mark

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On Mar 9, 2022, at 9:42 AM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:

?I’ve heard that fellow by the name of Bedrosian sells one. I am not sure how a person finds one, or what they cost. I admit I have not looked that hard.

I plan to make one today. The first attempt will be pretty basic, I suspect. Once I get a little experience I may revise it with some of the flip stops, hold-downs, grip surfaces, etc that I see in some of the YouTube videos.
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Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022

Re: Fritz and Fran jigs

#122006

I’ve heard that fellow by the name of Bedrosian sells one. I am not sure how a person finds one, or what they cost. I admit I have not looked that hard.

I plan to make one today. The first attempt will be pretty basic, I suspect. Once I get a little experience I may revise it with some of the flip stops, hold-downs, grip surfaces, etc that I see in some of the YouTube videos.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022

Re: Fritz and Fran jigs

#122005

Felder sells one made by RUWI for Hammer as well, but it is quite expensive, especially since a basic version can be made very cheap by oneselves.

https://www.felder-group.com/nl-nl/shop/klemming-en-zaagsysteem-sets-sc123879/klem-en-zaagsysteem-sp610918

Kind regards,?

Jonathan

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On Mar 9, 2022 07:41, SirRey <sirrey@...> wrote:

Newer to sliders and have a Hammer K3, guess I need to figure out my options are on Fritz Fran jigs.? Are all these homemade or are there manufacturers out there?

Thanks
Ray

Re: Eagerly awaiting info on the new Felder FW 850...

#122004

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There are a lot of Taiwan sanders that are decent choices here.? Houfek also makes a lot of smaller sanders.? I don't know if they are Easter Euro , Taiwan, or China though.? The EMC sourced machine Felder used to sell might have been the pick of the litter in small sized sanders.? I don't know if they still offer it.? Dave

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Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 4:32 AM
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Thanks for saying that David. Couldn’t agree more!

Lucky

Warm regards,

David

Dr David Luckensmeyer

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Gasp! ?Seriously, $16K for THAT??? ? ?I think several of us are singing the same tune here. ?At $16K, that Felder WB is not competitive. ?Plus, given the horrible experience others have had with the lower end larger Classic WB from Felder, why would anyone want to be the pioneer here? ??

The FW850 description posted makes reference to an "electro-pneumatic platen”?which would make me want to run as fast as possible in the opposite direction. ?Pneumatic bladder-type platens require highly sophisticated sensors and electronics to control properly, otherwise they produce snipe and rounded-off edges and corners. ?Read one users assessment of Felder’s larger “entry level” machine here which has that same type of platen: ?/g/felderownersgroup/message/84493??

I love my simple 17” open-side WB (), but if I had to have a 24” unit, there’s no way I would consider the Felder FW850 - instead I would be looking at the Laguna (link below). ?It has the same platen setup as my WB which has proven to be reliable and does not round-off edges like a poorly controlled pneumatic bladder unit.

David Best

https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/

On Mar 8, 2022, at 10:34 PM, Albert Lee <timbershelf@...> wrote:

You are correct in your observation Mark and I agree with you fully.?

I had a chance to put my hand on a proper Felder sander (model 1102?) and even that I was not impressed...?

I think the target market for this sander is hobbyist who had enough drama with their drum sander.?

Maybe wait for Mk2 in a couple of years time? pricing at $16k USD I think you are better off to pay a tad more and get yourself a better sander.?