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Re: Mantle Build Question
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI just ran across these hangers, the smallest would work for you:Just route a recess in the back of the mantle, screw these to the studs and drop it on. Tad
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Re: KF700sp and AD741 used pricing
For a lot of reasons and assistance from some amazing people on FOG, I have backed out of this deal. ?The accessories and tooling are great, but the high price, age and trunnion issues make this offering good from afar, but far from good. ?Unfortunately, the seller will not part out the tooling and/or accessories and prefers to sell as a package deal. ?
Back on the search and contemplating buying new. Thanks to everyone for their thoughts! -- Mike Barrow |
Re: Machinery Max: 2019-FELDER-FORMAT-KAPPA-400 - Toronto Canada
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI can help people estimate those frustrations ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Michael Garrison Stuber
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 10:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] Machinery Max: 2019-FELDER-FORMAT-KAPPA-400 - Toronto Canada ? Plus the time to file the insurance claim when it arrives trashed . . .? :) ? -- Michael Garrison Stuber ? On 1/6/2021 9:11 AM, David Kumm wrote:
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Re: Machinery Max: 2019-FELDER-FORMAT-KAPPA-400 - Toronto Canada
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýPlus the time to file the insurance claim when it arrives trashed . . .? :)
-- Michael Garrison Stuber
On 1/6/2021 9:11 AM, David Kumm wrote:
-- Michael Garrison Stuber |
Re: Machinery Max: 2019-FELDER-FORMAT-KAPPA-400 - Toronto Canada
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Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 12:05 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] Machinery Max: 2019-FELDER-FORMAT-KAPPA-400 - Toronto Canada ?
I hr remaining - CAD$ 14K
Imran
On Dec 30, 2020, at 11:54 AM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote: ?
45k CAD$ is 35K US$ based on the current exchange rate. I doubt Kappa 400 with the 12 foot sliding table would cost that much.
When I bought my KF700sp in 2016, I recall Kappa 400 was 30K+ CAD$ plus tax at that time.
James
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 11:46 AM Rob H <rhorton@...> wrote:
That is a nice saw. in the ad it list the price new @?FELDER Model KAPPA 400 SLIDING SAW |
Re: Machinery Max: 2019-FELDER-FORMAT-KAPPA-400 - Toronto Canada
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On Dec 30, 2020, at 11:54 AM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? 45k CAD$ is 35K US$ based on the current exchange rate. I doubt Kappa 400 with the 12 foot sliding table would cost that much. When I bought my KF700sp in 2016, I recall Kappa 400 was 30K+ CAD$ plus tax at that time. James On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 11:46 AM Rob H <rhorton@...> wrote: That is a nice saw. in the ad it list the price new @?FELDER Model KAPPA 400 SLIDING SAW |
Re: Mantle Build Question
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI did 3 mantels out of large white oak timbers for our new house.? On one I used a block as described by others and it sagged a bit.? I ended up redoing that and for all three I did French cleats out of hardwood.? Once in place a thin trim screw keeps them there. I cut a recess in the back 1¡± deep and 3¡± wide for the cleat. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Brett Wissel
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 9:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] Mantle Build Question ? If the board is truly 7.5" thick/tall I'd suggest looking into special brackets like??.? |
Re: Mantle Build Question
If the board is truly 7.5" thick/tall I'd suggest looking into special brackets like??.?
Otherwise, a clever method if the situation makes sense is to cut? the back of the board a good 1-1.5" from the back edge, and use it to mount directly to the wall with recessed anchors. Then use dominoes in an array to push the rest of the board against the mounting slice, and the piece will be impossible for the next guy to figure out how you did it once the adhesive sets and the dominoes swell. If you dry fit the dominoes beforehand like you are supposed to, you can tweak the joint line to make invisible, which shouldn't be too tough on ash given grain orientation. Fun project! |
Re: Jointer giving a rough finish
Jeff,
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For some reason the pic did not come thru last night for me. Cliff¡¯s response made me look again and it is there. Anyhow, you got plenty of responses but looking at the pic, are you sure the 2nd piece is cherry. Some woods cut fuzzy and your bad board reminds me of sycamore. Imran On Jan 6, 2021, at 9:49 AM, Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq. <rohrabacher@...> wrote:
?That's a rather dramatic level of rough finish. I almost never consider the direction of grain and I've never seen anything like that. Best I can offer in no particular order Run some other wood across it and see what you get. Maybe the one board is screwy reevaluate your set up blades their orientation their height Rip that glue joint apart and flip that board or toss it in the firewood bin |
Re: Jointer giving a rough finish
Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq.
That's a rather dramatic? level of rough finish.
I almost never consider the direction of grain and I've never seen anything like that. Best I can offer? in no particular order ?Run some other wood across it and see what you get.? Maybe the one board is? screwy reevaluate your set up? blades? their orientation their height Rip that glue joint apart and flip that board or toss it in the firewood bin |
Re: Jointer giving a rough finish
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIt used to be that the two sided blades had an insignia on one side on right or left. They are ground with all markings on right or left so you want bro install all right or left to be in same cutting circle.You were definitely going against the grain so you need to watch that.? Proper Edging ?And facing takes a degree of skill, if your new to it practice practice practice. Bow up facing , bow down edging. Light pressure does it you want to change the shape not smooth ?and end up with the same crocked shape. ?Keep you eye on the out feed table that¡¯s your guide to success . mac,,, martin/campshure/co/llc Designing and building for 50 years On Jan 6, 2021, at 6:01 AM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
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Re: AD741 feed problems
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýDavid B,?I love your response! ? So much more elegant than my father and my expression, "why make something simple when you can make it complex?" The underlaying rationale are quite similar. ?We can all find someone else to make it cheap and of poor quality, but that is one of the reasons I love making as a hobbyist. ?If I¡¯m not learning and improving and pushing my skill set on each project then it is simply less rewarding in the near term and crippling to long term skill development. ? Thanks for sharing your response. Anthony?
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Re: Mantle Build Question
I wouldn¡¯t bother going that deep for the mounting block - just enough to catch it with 2 screws from the top.
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A 1¡± block standing proud of the wall mounted firmly would be plenty - the mantle is relying on the sheer strength/friction to the wall for the majority of its load in those dimensions. Brian Heisenberg Woodworking Sent from a device with less than stellar autocorrect On Jan 6, 2021, at 12:16 AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote: |
Re: Jointer giving a rough finish
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On Jan 6, 2021, at 12:33 AM, Jeff <jeff.lund.ca@...> wrote:
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Re: Mantle Build Question
After reading, I realized it would be better to screw the mantle to the blocking from top vs bottom.
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Imran On Jan 6, 2021, at 1:00 AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
?So a friend wants a live edge mantle from an Ash log. He already has the log cut on the band mill. It is 11¡± deep (sticking out from wall) and 7.5¡± tall (vertical). The mantle will be 5¡¯ long. I can run the 11¡± wide top on the jointer and then make the back 90 deg to it. Finally run it thru planer to get the bottom parallel to the top. I need to return each end of the mantle so will need to cut 45s. I plan to do each 45 deg cut in two passes (due to 7¡±+ thickness) with material on one side of the xcut fence and then flipped and placed on the other side of the xcut fence. I have not done this so far. Finally i can plough a recess on the back side on all 3 pieces for mounting purpose and process a piece of wood that fits perfectly in the recess. With this piece mounted on the wall the mantle can be pushed on it and screwed from bottom. I can easily plough about 3¡± deep. Is that deep enough for a 11¡± deep mantle? I know there are many mounting options out there but would like to find out if what i described would work? Imran |
Mantle Build Question
So a friend wants a live edge mantle from an Ash log. He already has the log cut on the band mill. It is 11¡± deep (sticking out from wall) and 7.5¡± tall (vertical). The mantle will be 5¡¯ long.
I can run the 11¡± wide top on the jointer and then make the back 90 deg to it. Finally run it thru planer to get the bottom parallel to the top. I need to return each end of the mantle so will need to cut 45s. I plan to do each 45 deg cut in two passes (due to 7¡±+ thickness) with material on one side of the xcut fence and then flipped and placed on the other side of the xcut fence. I have not done this so far. Finally i can plough a recess on the back side on all 3 pieces for mounting purpose and process a piece of wood that fits perfectly in the recess. With this piece mounted on the wall the mantle can be pushed on it and screwed from bottom. I can easily plough about 3¡± deep. Is that deep enough for a 11¡± deep mantle? I know there are many mounting options out there but would like to find out if what i described would work? Imran |
Re: Jointer giving a rough finish
I didn't feel and chatter. I was wondering about the feeding against the grain. I did a glue up of two boards and I didn't think about matching grain direction when I did them. Looking at them I may have glued one with the grain going one way and one the other so I may not have a "right direction" to joint that one. I have some other boards that need to be planed so I'll try that later this week and see what happens.?
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Re: Jointer giving a rough finish
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWas there chatter during feed? If it was hard to feed that would be a sign of dull blades. You can also check the chips. Nice curly chips indicate sharp blade. You can also try planer and if that works fine then it is not blades. You may already know this but look at the grain direction on the long edge of the board. Always feed wood with grain direction as shown below otherwise you are likely to get chip out. Same applies to planing. Imran On Jan 6, 2021, at 12:05 AM, Jeff <jeff.lund.ca@...> wrote:
?Now that I've replaced the belt on my jointer and can use it again I tried a light pass (1/64th) on some cherry this evening and ended up with a very rough finish. Any suggestions what I'm doing wrong?? Is it me, the wood, or do I need new blades? <20210105_201511.jpg> |
Re: AD741 feed problems
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýPerfect.?As well, we¡¯ll get you into the ¡°Cambridge Split Infinitives Club¡± before much longer!!? Warm regards, Lucky On 6 Jan 2021, at 2:00 pm, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
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