Re: Where to buy bearings? I recall people recommending someone online
You can buy old stock open or sealed bearings with little risk unless no longer packed to keep out moisture.? If i find an older sealed bearing I need that is difficult to find new, I just pop the seals and inspect or most likely replace the grease and put
the seals back.? Shielded bearings are best to buy new as you have to be better than me to replace a shield.? The one thing you don't want to do is spin a dry bearing, even when cleaning.? Using air to spin out the mineral spirits when cleaning is a good way
to screw them up.? Dave
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I look for recognized manufacture usually old stock. I wouldn’t consider something on e bay as necessarily ?junk .
All your Felder stuff is sealed bearings.the. Grease is good for at least 10 years if used daily.?
I use my machines in machine shop regularly, ?I am shocked ?at how little time I put on the
Machine with timers.
I would not worry about sealed bearings giving out.
I dislike ?VOC a lot so try to limit my exposure.?
Designing and building for 50 years
On Nov 21, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq. <rohrabacher@...> wrote:
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It really depends on what I am doing.? I may go to ebay and get cheap shit or? I may? insist on? Fafner? or Timkin and? then I end up payiing? a lot more.
On 11/21/20 12:27 AM, Joe Jensen wrote:
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6307.? Sealed are fine as the rpm is so slow.? You want C2 or CN ( normal ) clearance, not C3.? SKF Explorer ABEC 3 or equiv.? ABEC is a measure of precision or how concentric the inner and outer races are.? No point in any bearing with higher precision due
to the slow rpm and cage material.? Dave
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They are for? Tannewitz 30” bandsaw, upper wheel.? The size is OD = 80mm, ID = 35mm, ?width = 21mm
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What is the application?? What size bearing ?? Are they for the Tanny wheels?? Dave
What spec bearings do I need, pretty sure the metal shield ones that were in there were not original.? I assume I want no seal bearings but what clearance, C3? And what
ABEC?? Two big bearings support the upper wheel, maybe 100 lbs wheel.? They are on a 35mm shaft and about 10” apart.
?
?
I have been buying from motion/ wisconsin bearing for 50 years this is volume one a superb reference book ?50 years old . I two try to support the local businesses. 70% of my venders are within 100 miles.
When the bearings start getting real expensive I go to ebay first.?
 
martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell
Designing and building for 50 years
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On Nov 21, 2020, at 1:26 PM, David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
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Jason and Tom, I'm in agreement about supporting local businesses.? They support my accounting firm.? My experience locally with bearing and some other shops is that they aren't manned with the type of knowlege to
justify the price upcharge.? Over the many years I've bought from bearing, motor, ? electrical, machine shops, etc, I've seen a depth of knowledge retiring and not being replaced.? Not a rant but people who understand how things work are becoming more rare.?
That is a real loss.? That might be different in larger markets with a larger pool to draw from but a real issue in some smaller towns.? Dave
I'm with Tom on this one. I have two local bearing supply houses that 98% of the time have what I need, on the shelf in SKF or Nachi. Often a couple dollars more than ordering it online, but I don't care about that. I'd rather pay more, talk to a live person
who knows what they're talking about, and have it the day I discover I need it. We've lost a lot of places like that the last 10 years and I do my best to support the ones that are still around.
?
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Re: Laser Kerf Line for slider saw?
I haven’t but i think it would be great. ??
On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 12:56 PM imranindiana via <imranindiana= [email protected]> wrote: Brett,
i am sure you know Felder makes one for bandsaws. bit salty for me as a hobby user. I do not know if anyone has tried mounting it for saw application.
imran ? Has anyone?installed or does a successful modification?exist for quick line-ups of the initial cut on rough stock like laser lines on a high-end rip saw? I'm envisioning it being mounted to an overhead guard mount or even from an isolated ceiling mount. Just didn't know if anyone had a practical and/or reliably accurate one, I'm still aggravated by using my feeler block for clearance and fumbling the stock around, seems like it could be better.
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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That's not what I said.
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On 11/21/20 7:22 PM, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression wrote: I wouldn’t consider something on e bay as necessarily ?junk .
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I look for recognized manufacture usually old stock. I wouldn’t consider something on e bay as necessarily ?junk . All your Felder stuff is sealed bearings.the. Grease is good for at least 10 years if used daily.? I use my machines in machine shop regularly, ?I am shocked ?at how little time I put on the Machine with timers. I would not worry about sealed bearings giving out. I dislike ?VOC a lot so try to limit my exposure.? Designing and building for 50 years
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On Nov 21, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq. <rohrabacher@...> wrote:
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It really depends on what I am doing.? I may go to ebay and get
cheap shit or? I may? insist on? Fafner? or Timkin and? then I end
up payiing? a lot more.
On 11/21/20 12:27 AM, Joe Jensen wrote:
Anyone recall?
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It really depends on what I am doing.? I may go to ebay and get
cheap shit or? I may? insist on? Fafner? or Timkin and? then I end
up payiing? a lot more.
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They are for? Tannewitz 30” bandsaw, upper wheel.? The size is OD = 80mm, ID = 35mm, ?width = 21mm
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Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 3:14 PM
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What is the application?? What size bearing ?? Are they for the Tanny wheels?? Dave
What spec bearings do I need, pretty sure the metal shield ones that were in there were not original.? I assume I want no seal bearings but what clearance,
C3? And what ABEC?? Two big bearings support the upper wheel, maybe 100 lbs wheel.? They are on a 35mm shaft and about 10” apart.
?
?
I have been buying from motion/ wisconsin bearing for 50 years this is volume one a superb reference book ?50 years old . I two try to support the local businesses. 70% of my venders are within 100 miles.
When the bearings start getting real expensive I go to ebay first.?
 
martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell
Designing and building for 50 years
?
On Nov 21, 2020, at 1:26 PM, David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
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Jason and Tom, I'm in agreement about supporting local businesses.? They support my accounting firm.? My experience locally with bearing and some other shops is that they aren't manned with the
type of knowlege to justify the price upcharge.? Over the many years I've bought from bearing, motor, ? electrical, machine shops, etc, I've seen a depth of knowledge retiring and not being replaced.? Not a rant but people who understand how things work are
becoming more rare.? That is a real loss.? That might be different in larger markets with a larger pool to draw from but a real issue in some smaller towns.? Dave
I'm with Tom on this one. I have two local bearing supply houses that 98% of the time have what I need, on the shelf in SKF or Nachi. Often a couple dollars more than ordering it online, but I don't care about that. I'd rather pay more,
talk to a live person who knows what they're talking about, and have it the day I discover I need it. We've lost a lot of places like that the last 10 years and I do my best to support the ones that are still around.
?
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
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jason,
that is a sweet setup.
imran
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On Nov 21, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote: ?As many of you know, I'm an auction hound. It really paid off recently when I found this bandsaw feeder, brand new in the box, and local!? This is not your typical Comatic type bandsaw feeder. This is completely different, it's basically a infinitely variable speed edge sander, with a outboard pressure module. It's Italian made and was imported by Laguna for a little while. They reportedly tried to have it copied in China and it didn't work out so well. I'd never seen or heard about this thing before, but we decided to give it a shot. The auction ended and we got it for about $800. Higher than I would have expected, but way cheaper than any other bandsaw specific feeder. We learned that it was supposed to attach to the Laguna Driftmaster Fence, which has also been discontinued. We ended up having a bracket fabricated to attach it the Felder 540's fence rail. We are intending to dedicate this saw to resaw, so we didn't mind loosing the stock fence ability. The pressure module is designed to slide into the t-slot. As you know, the Felder slot is very shallow, so we milled the bar to fit, and just use a single clamp to keep it in place rather than drilling and tapping. It's also easy to remove this way. Here's a short video of it in action, and a photo of the cut. We are using a 3/4" Wood Slicer blade in the video. The quality on both sides, offcut and the thin piece are good enough to glue to. No need to re joint the plank before cutting another. We will probably put a Lenox carbide blade on once we use up our stash of Slicer blades.  -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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I've alway thought having one would make straight line ripping rough lumber easier. But really hasn't bothered me enough to break down and make one.
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What is the application?? What size bearing ?? Are they for the Tanny wheels?? Dave
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What spec bearings do I need, pretty sure the metal shield ones that were in there were not original.? I assume I want no seal bearings but what clearance, C3? And what
ABEC?? Two big bearings support the upper wheel, maybe 100 lbs wheel.? They are on a 35mm shaft and about 10” apart.
?
?
I have been buying from motion/ wisconsin bearing for 50 years this is volume one a superb reference book ?50 years old . I two try to support the local businesses. 70% of my venders are within 100 miles.
When the bearings start getting real expensive I go to ebay first.?
 
Designing and building for 50 years
On Nov 21, 2020, at 1:26 PM, David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
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Jason and Tom, I'm in agreement about supporting local businesses.? They support my accounting firm.? My experience locally with bearing and some other shops is that they aren't manned with the type of knowlege to
justify the price upcharge.? Over the many years I've bought from bearing, motor, ? electrical, machine shops, etc, I've seen a depth of knowledge retiring and not being replaced.? Not a rant but people who understand how things work are becoming more rare.?
That is a real loss.? That might be different in larger markets with a larger pool to draw from but a real issue in some smaller towns.? Dave
I'm with Tom on this one. I have two local bearing supply houses that 98% of the time have what I need, on the shelf in SKF or Nachi. Often a couple dollars more than ordering it online, but I don't care about that. I'd rather pay more, talk to a live person
who knows what they're talking about, and have it the day I discover I need it. We've lost a lot of places like that the last 10 years and I do my best to support the ones that are still around.
?
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765
--
Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Personally I would use sealed bearing so you don’t have the mess of grade or oil Designing and building for 50 years
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On Nov 21, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> wrote:
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What spec bearings do I need, pretty sure the metal shield ones that were in there were not original.? I assume I want no seal bearings but what clearance,
C3? And what ABEC?? Two big bearings support the upper wheel, maybe 100 lbs wheel.? They are on a 35mm shaft and about 10” apart.
?
?
I have been buying from motion/ wisconsin bearing for 50 years this is volume one a superb reference book ?50 years old . I two try to support the local businesses. 70% of my venders are within 100 miles.
When the bearings start getting real expensive I go to ebay first.?
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Designing and building for 50 years
On Nov 21, 2020, at 1:26 PM, David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
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Jason and Tom, I'm in agreement about supporting local businesses.? They support my accounting firm.? My experience locally with bearing and some other shops is that they aren't manned with the
type of knowlege to justify the price upcharge.? Over the many years I've bought from bearing, motor, ? electrical, machine shops, etc, I've seen a depth of knowledge retiring and not being replaced.? Not a rant but people who understand how things work are
becoming more rare.? That is a real loss.? That might be different in larger markets with a larger pool to draw from but a real issue in some smaller towns.? Dave
I'm with Tom on this one. I have two local bearing supply houses that 98% of the time have what I need, on the shelf in SKF or Nachi. Often a couple dollars more than ordering it online, but I don't care about that. I'd rather pay more,
talk to a live person who knows what they're talking about, and have it the day I discover I need it. We've lost a lot of places like that the last 10 years and I do my best to support the ones that are still around.
?
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765
--
Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Re: Where to buy bearings? I recall people recommending someone online
What spec bearings do I need, pretty sure the metal shield ones that were in there were not original.? I assume I want no seal bearings but what clearance,
C3? And what ABEC?? Two big bearings support the upper wheel, maybe 100 lbs wheel.? They are on a 35mm shaft and about 10” apart.
?
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On Behalf Of Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 12:40 PM
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I have been buying from motion/ wisconsin bearing for 50 years this is volume one a superb reference book ?50 years old . I two try to support the local businesses. 70% of my venders are within 100 miles.
When the bearings start getting real expensive I go to ebay first.?
 
Designing and building for 50 years
On Nov 21, 2020, at 1:26 PM, David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
?
Jason and Tom, I'm in agreement about supporting local businesses.? They support my accounting firm.? My experience locally with bearing and some other shops is that they aren't manned with the
type of knowlege to justify the price upcharge.? Over the many years I've bought from bearing, motor, ? electrical, machine shops, etc, I've seen a depth of knowledge retiring and not being replaced.? Not a rant but people who understand how things work are
becoming more rare.? That is a real loss.? That might be different in larger markets with a larger pool to draw from but a real issue in some smaller towns.? Dave
I'm with Tom on this one. I have two local bearing supply houses that 98% of the time have what I need, on the shelf in SKF or Nachi. Often a couple dollars more than ordering it online, but I don't care about that. I'd rather pay more,
talk to a live person who knows what they're talking about, and have it the day I discover I need it. We've lost a lot of places like that the last 10 years and I do my best to support the ones that are still around.
?
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765
--
Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
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When retired I will do the same.? As someone who works weekdays the commercial places who are only open mon-fri 7-4pm are impossible.
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On Behalf Of tomruth@...
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 10:16 AM
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???? I always try to support local bearing shops if they have what I need. I do this even if I have to spend the time to drive there, it's just better for the local economy. Amazon is always my last choice, but I understand why people use
them. I'm fortunate to live near a lot of local suppliers. I feel if I don't support these small local shops, they will someday be gone when I need to talk to a real person.
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Cool Jason!,? My shop gets up to 35 40 F in winter, little ceramic heater is my friend no sense heating 3600 sq ft for on body? Designing and building for 50 years
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On Nov 21, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:
? Brian, hasn't been 80's here for a couple months. This was first thing in the morning when the heat is just coming up in the shop.
Dave, this feeder is heavy. You would not want to take it on and off very often.?
Brett, because of the pressure module being mounted in the t slot, it's totally adjustable front to back. Yes, this was set with the apex of the rear wheel just behind the teeth of the blade. We have it set up to cut door skin veneer here, about 3/16" thick. The?pressure module has in and out adjustment via a hand crank, and we've determined that for each slice you cut off of your board, 1.5 cranks will be perfect pressure for the next slice. It's so easy it feels like cheating.
One improvement we are going to be making-is adding a contact roller or curved fence type device above the belt, inline with the blade to provide support for taller work. The belt is only 6" wide, so presumably resawing a 12" wide plank might introduce some inconsistency.?
I might resaw the super figured red gum eucalyptus I have without fear of screwing it up! Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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I have been buying from motion/ wisconsin bearing for 50 years this is volume one a superb reference book ?50 years old . I two try to support the local businesses. 70% of my venders are within 100 miles. When the bearings start getting real expensive I go to ebay first.? Mac,,,
  Designing and building for 50 years
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On Nov 21, 2020, at 1:26 PM, David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
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Jason and Tom, I'm in agreement about supporting local businesses.? They support my accounting firm.? My experience locally with bearing and some other shops is that they aren't manned with the type of knowlege to justify the price upcharge.? Over the many
years I've bought from bearing, motor, ? electrical, machine shops, etc, I've seen a depth of knowledge retiring and not being replaced.? Not a rant but people who understand how things work are becoming more rare.? That is a real loss.? That might be different
in larger markets with a larger pool to draw from but a real issue in some smaller towns.? Dave
I'm with Tom on this one. I have two local bearing supply houses that 98% of the time have what I need, on the shelf in SKF or Nachi. Often a couple dollars more than ordering it online, but I don't care about that. I'd rather pay more, talk
to a live person who knows what they're talking about, and have it the day I discover I need it. We've lost a lot of places like that the last 10 years and I do my best to support the ones that are still around.
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765
--
Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Re: Where to buy bearings? I recall people recommending someone online
Jason and Tom, I'm in agreement about supporting local businesses.? They support my accounting firm.? My experience locally with bearing and some other shops is that they aren't manned with the type of knowlege to justify the price upcharge.? Over the many
years I've bought from bearing, motor, ? electrical, machine shops, etc, I've seen a depth of knowledge retiring and not being replaced.? Not a rant but people who understand how things work are becoming more rare.? That is a real loss.? That might be different
in larger markets with a larger pool to draw from but a real issue in some smaller towns.? Dave
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I'm with Tom on this one. I have two local bearing supply houses that 98% of the time have what I need, on the shelf in SKF or Nachi. Often a couple dollars more than ordering it online, but I don't care about that. I'd rather pay more, talk
to a live person who knows what they're talking about, and have it the day I discover I need it. We've lost a lot of places like that the last 10 years and I do my best to support the ones that are still around.
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765
--
Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Brian, hasn't been 80's here for a couple months. This was first thing in the morning when the heat is just coming up in the shop.
Dave, this feeder is heavy. You would not want to take it on and off very often.?
Brett, because of the pressure module being mounted in the t slot, it's totally adjustable front to back. Yes, this was set with the apex of the rear wheel just behind the teeth of the blade. We have it set up to cut door skin veneer here, about 3/16" thick. The?pressure module has in and out adjustment via a hand crank, and we've determined that for each slice you cut off of your board, 1.5 cranks will be perfect pressure for the next slice. It's so easy it feels like cheating.
One improvement we are going to be making-is adding a contact roller or curved fence type device above the belt, inline with the blade to provide support for taller work. The belt is only 6" wide, so presumably resawing a 12" wide plank might introduce some inconsistency.?
I might resaw the super figured red gum eucalyptus I have without fear of screwing it up! Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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I'm with Tom on this one. I have two local bearing supply houses that 98% of the time have what I need, on the shelf in SKF or Nachi. Often a couple dollars more than ordering it online, but I don't care about that. I'd rather pay more, talk to a live person who knows what they're talking about, and have it the day I discover I need it. We've lost a lot of places like that the last 10 years and I do my best to support the ones that are still around. Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Re: Laser Kerf Line for slider saw?
Brett,
i am sure you know Felder makes one for bandsaws. bit salty for me as a hobby user. I do not know if anyone has tried mounting it for saw application.
imran
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On Nov 21, 2020, at 11:25 AM, Brett Wissel <Brettwissel@...> wrote: ? Has anyone?installed or does a successful modification?exist for quick line-ups of the initial cut on rough stock like laser lines on a high-end rip saw? I'm envisioning it being mounted to an overhead guard mount or even from an isolated ceiling mount. Just didn't know if anyone had a practical and/or reliably accurate one, I'm still aggravated by using my feeler block for clearance and fumbling the stock around, seems like it could be better.
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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Re: Laser Kerf Line for slider saw?
I’d probably hack something together using something like this using a AC wall wart style power supply for the 7-10VDC:
?
I used a Bosch line laser years ago and made a mount for my tile saw, it worked pretty well but the batteries didn’t hold up for very long.
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Has anyone?installed or does a successful modification?exist for quick line-ups of the initial cut on rough stock like laser lines on a high-end rip saw? I'm envisioning it being mounted to an overhead guard mount or even from an isolated ceiling mount. Just didn't know if anyone had a practical and/or reliably accurate one, I'm still aggravated by using my feeler block for clearance and fumbling the stock around, seems like it could be better.
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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