Re: Storage of sheet goods
Worth noting birch ply will stain black fairly easily/quickly if exposed to high humidity. I don't know the threshold personally but have had a few sheets go bad as a result of poor storage (in previous shop)
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Re: Storage of sheet goods
I order my lumber from 200 miles away and just like to have plywood on hand. I don’t ever plan on having 50 sheets of ply, but I do like the idea of storing it flat.
Tom
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Re: Storage of sheet goods
Tom, ? Maybe a storage solution and a tool... Dave Davies
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On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:53 PM Jason Holtz < jholtzy@...> wrote: My two cents, I'd never want to store sheets flat. That would virtually guarantee that I have to lift them at some point either putting them in or taking them out of the rack. It also takes up a ton more real estate than storing vertically on end. Twice as much space. I wouldn't sweat the undconditioned?space. Most of my sheet goods are coming from dealers who have unheated space where sheets are stored. Jason Holtz J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406 612 432-2765
-- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Re: Storage of sheet goods
My two cents, I'd never want to store sheets flat. That would virtually guarantee that I have to lift them at some point either putting them in or taking them out of the rack. It also takes up a ton more real estate than storing vertically on end. Twice as much space. I wouldn't sweat the undconditioned?space. Most of my sheet goods are coming from dealers who have unheated space where sheets are stored. Jason Holtz J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406 612 432-2765
-- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Re: Storage of sheet goods
I hope I'm not misunderstanding Tom, but why would you want to store 50 sheets of expensive plywood that you wouldn't use up quickly? I suppose if you were a retailer it might make sense. I would think you'd buy what you need for a project and not have to worry about long term storage at all... Just my thoughts.
Bill Belanger
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On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 7:34 PM Tom Morris < morrist@...> wrote: I’m currently adding to my shop space and will end up with a large area within an attached garage that I’m thinking would work well to store 4x8 sheets of plywood flat. I’ve found a nice rack that has 5 spaces that would hold 10 sheets each.?
My question is should I be concerned about storing expensive plywood in a non-conditioned space? I’m in the Midwest so we get all types of weather and humidity.?
Thanks, Tom Morris? Wichita, KS
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I’m currently adding to my shop space and will end up with a large area within an attached garage that I’m thinking would work well to store 4x8 sheets of plywood flat. I’ve found a nice rack that has 5 spaces that would hold 10 sheets each.?
My question is should I be concerned about storing expensive plywood in a non-conditioned space? I’m in the Midwest so we get all types of weather and humidity.?
Thanks, Tom Morris? Wichita, KS
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I did register online for free,
You can assist live demos and watch on demand videos (earlier live demos). So far I did not see anything I am interested in. If you go on Sawmillcreeck, someone posted the new 2020 felder catalogue.
You can pay to get access to some online classes or other online stuff, I did not even look at it.
Bill
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It has started.? ?I'm not sure exactly what is supposed to happened.? Anybody have a clue? Dave Davies
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Re: Basic Hex/Allen Tool suggestions
The last time this made the FOG rounds I ordered and I have to agree, this holder is amazing.
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]>
On Behalf Of David Davies
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 1:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Basic Hex/Allen Tool suggestions
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Brett,
? I've held on to this email since one of these days I'm going to get around to ordering it...
The sell the best bit holder on the planet, the wera 889 I prefer the 75mm long one
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On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 9:56 AM David Davies via <myfinishingtouch=[email protected]> wrote:
Just yesterday I bought their portable bandsaw using a coupon I found online for only $90.? Tough to beat that for a tool I won't use very often but when I need something cut it will sure be easier than a hacksaw.
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Then there is Harbor Freight. Its like Billy Beer for tool lovers.???
Watch out for over powering ball-end drivers with an impact or a ratchet wrench for that matter.? The hex key shaft can break at the neck down section or strip out the fastener because of the small contact area.??
For what its worth, I don't think the chinesium alloy used in some of Harbor's tools is all that different than a lot of other "quality" brands.? Nick Moore has the AvE YouTube channel where he reviews all kinds of tools and brands.
?Its really entertaining and you can learn some new Canadian words.
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Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Re: Lubricating 941 height screws?
Thanks Imran:
Oh boy, I think I need to clean and tension the chain! 14 years of hard, maintenance free, use!
Lucky
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Brian, no boots on threaded posts. to be sure that i am not missing them, i checked the assembly drawing and it does not show any.
Lucky, i vacuumed it when i got it 3 yrs ago. today, there were chips along each wall, maybe 1” high. i vacuumed them. i noted grime on the outfeed side floor (chain motor is on this end) so i wiped it clean with a rag. did not use any cleaning agent. did not do anything to the posts. it looks good because it has not been used much.
while looking at the manual (should have read it prior) it says to wipe clean and lube the posts every 40 operational hrs and clean/tension chain and lube every 6 months.
imran On Oct 26, 2020, at 5:31 PM, Brian Lamb < blamb11@...> wrote: ? No rubber accordion boots over the screws? My 741 has them and they are falling apart, was going to try to figure out a replacement, but if yours are open air like that, maybe not….
Shawn,
i finally got to it. removed the end panels that move with the table. the posts were clean and glistening with lube there is lube at the bottom around each post. so the sound i here must be normal. i can run the table with covers removed and see nothing wrong. there were chips along the side wall that i vacuumed. i am the 2nd owner of this 9 yr old dual51 and i am pretty sure this is factory lube.
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I’m wondering if there’s something I should be doing to maintain my 941. It works great, but it groans every time I switch between planer and jointer, raising and lowering the tables with the power drive. I bring it up and down about 7” every time, and it sounds like I should lubricate the height screws, but I can’t find anything from Felder suggesting any maintenance. I wouldn’t want to use anything that will turn to mud if it gets dust I’m guessing. Any suggestions? Thanks. Shawn
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Re: Lubricating 941 height screws?
Brian, no boots on threaded posts. to be sure that i am not missing them, i checked the assembly drawing and it does not show any.
Lucky, i vacuumed it when i got it 3 yrs ago. today, there were chips along each wall, maybe 1” high. i vacuumed them. i noted grime on the outfeed side floor (chain motor is on this end) so i wiped it clean with a rag. did not use any cleaning agent. did not do anything to the posts. it looks good because it has not been used much.
while looking at the manual (should have read it prior) it says to wipe clean and lube the posts every 40 operational hrs and clean/tension chain and lube every 6 months.
imran
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On Oct 26, 2020, at 5:31 PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote: ? No rubber accordion boots over the screws? My 741 has them and they are falling apart, was going to try to figure out a replacement, but if yours are open air like that, maybe not….
Shawn,
i finally got to it. removed the end panels that move with the table. the posts were clean and glistening with lube there is lube at the bottom around each post. so the sound i here must be normal. i can run the table with covers removed and see nothing wrong. there were chips along the side wall that i vacuumed. i am the 2nd owner of this 9 yr old dual51 and i am pretty sure this is factory lube.
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imran ?
I’m wondering if there’s something I should be doing to maintain my 941. It works great, but it groans every time I switch between planer and jointer, raising and lowering the tables with the power drive. I bring it up and down about 7” every time, and it sounds like I should lubricate the height screws, but I can’t find anything from Felder suggesting any maintenance. I wouldn’t want to use anything that will turn to mud if it gets dust I’m guessing. Any suggestions? Thanks. Shawn
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Re: Chicago School of Woodworking
Shaun just emailed me that he is packing and shipping my item.? Mike King NERA Economic Consulting +1 303 618-4915
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On Oct 26, 2020, at 2:56 PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
? Well, I went and did some digging, I advise you to contact Shaun direct, according to their website, you can reach her at shaun@...?or they have a phone number listed that is 773-275-1170.?
I got a request for payment, which I’ve provided, but have yet to see anything arrive at my doorstep. ?Or a shipping confirmation either. On Oct 26, 2020, at 11:18 AM, Robert Johnson < woodewe@...> wrote:
Has anyone received an answer to their interest in the items for sale?
My inquiries have gone unanswered.
Thanks,
Bob
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Great idea David, if I cut them I may even be able to use them with both hoods.
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]>
On Behalf Of David Kumm
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 11:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Aigner fence plates mount to newer F700Z #shapertools
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I cut mine original one piece plate into two, similar to most others supplied by Aigner.? The plates only need to be wide enough to secure the stud plates which can be purchased as adjustable for
other fences.? I would think cutting the plates to match the protruding stud would work.? Dave
I have Aigner fence plates that I bought with my 2009 KF700SP.? They mount to the fence housing with a knob with a stud that goes through a hole and threads into a sliding nut trapped in the back of each Aigner fence plate. From prior posts
it seems this a felder specific rear plate.?
I recently bought a 2017 F700Z which has an updated fence housing compared to my 2009 shaper fence.? The newer housing has a beefier lid for mounting aigner accessories and it has top handles that turn an eccentric to loosen/tighten the fence plates.? I'd like
to use the newer fence housing on the new shaper but use my older Aigner fence plates.? I assume I need new backs, likely from Felder.? Does anyone have any experience?? Pic attached.
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Thanks Shawn,
That helps,
Bill
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Re: Lubricating 941 height screws?
Yes, the post (it is a single big post on my 2016 AD741) is behind the left and right panels. I remove both panels, so can lubricate and clean everything up.
James
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On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 5:46 PM Shawn Kammerer via <shawnkammerer= [email protected]> wrote:
Thanks Imran, I should just?take a look behind the panels?also. It makes a pretty constant groaning sound when it goes up and down. James and Brian, is?the 741’s post behind a panel also, or is it open? If it’s open, that makes it easier to lubricate, but also lets?dust get at it easier, necessitating the rubber boot, I’m guessing. James, thanks for the reply 10 days ago with the lube info, just seeing that now! -Shawn On Monday, October 26, 2020, 2:25 PM, imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote: Shawn,
i finally got to it. removed the end panels that move with the table. the posts were clean and glistening with lube there is lube at the bottom around each post. so the sound i here must be normal. i can run the table with covers removed and see nothing wrong. there were chips along the side wall that i vacuumed. i am the 2nd owner of this 9 yr old dual51 and i am pretty sure this is factory lube.
imran On Oct 16, 2020, at 6:31 PM, Shawn Kammerer via <shawnkammerer= [email protected]> wrote: ?
I’m wondering if there’s something I should be doing to maintain my 941. It works great, but it groans every time I switch between planer and jointer, raising and lowering the tables with the power drive. I bring it up and down about 7” every time, and it sounds like I should lubricate the height screws, but I can’t find anything from Felder suggesting any maintenance. I wouldn’t want to use anything that will turn to mud if it gets dust I’m guessing. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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Re: Lubricating 941 height screws?
On mine the 4 posts are out in the open, but have telescoping rubber boots on them. I guess I can remove the boots and add some sheet metal panels to enclose the area. Getting new boots on there would mean complete disassembly from the looks of it… not something I want to do.
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Thanks Imran, I should just?take a look behind the panels?also. It makes a pretty constant groaning sound when it goes up and down. James and Brian, is?the 741’s post behind a panel also, or is it open? If it’s open, that makes it easier to lubricate, but also lets?dust get at it easier, necessitating the rubber boot, I’m guessing. James, thanks for the reply 10 days ago with the lube info, just seeing that now! -Shawn On Monday, October 26, 2020, 2:25 PM, imranindiana via <imranindiana@...> wrote: Shawn,
i finally got to it. removed the end panels that move with the table. the posts were clean and glistening with lube there is lube at the bottom around each post. so the sound i here must be normal. i can run the table with covers removed and see nothing wrong. there were chips along the side wall that i vacuumed. i am the 2nd owner of this 9 yr old dual51 and i am pretty sure this is factory lube.
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imran ?
I’m wondering if there’s something I should be doing to maintain my 941. It works great, but it groans every time I switch between planer and jointer, raising and lowering the tables with the power drive. I bring it up and down about 7” every time, and it sounds like I should lubricate the height screws, but I can’t find anything from Felder suggesting any maintenance. I wouldn’t want to use anything that will turn to mud if it gets dust I’m guessing. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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Re: Lubricating 941 height screws?
Imran:
That’s a very clean Dual-51 underbelly! Mine is definitely a lot dirtier when I open up the panels. I’ve had my Dual-51 for 14 years, from new, and I’ve lubed it up twice. Using dry silicon lube (spray). It seems to work fine, for what its worth. Probably time to open it up and give that underbelly some more lube/love!
Lucky
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Thanks Imran, I should just?take a look behind the panels?also. It makes a pretty constant groaning sound when it goes up and down. James and Brian, is?the 741’s post behind a panel also, or is it open? If it’s open, that makes it easier to lubricate, but also lets?dust get at it easier, necessitating the rubber boot, I’m guessing. James, thanks for the reply 10 days ago with the lube info, just seeing that now! -Shawn On Monday, October 26, 2020, 2:25 PM, imranindiana via <imranindiana@...> wrote: Shawn,
i finally got to it. removed the end panels that move with the table. the posts were clean and glistening with lube there is lube at the bottom around each post. so the sound i here must be normal. i can run the table with covers removed and see nothing wrong. there were chips along the side wall that i vacuumed. i am the 2nd owner of this 9 yr old dual51 and i am pretty sure this is factory lube.
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imran ?
I’m wondering if there’s something I should be doing to maintain my 941. It works great, but it groans every time I switch between planer and jointer, raising and lowering the tables with the power drive. I bring it up and down about 7” every time, and it sounds like I should lubricate the height screws, but I can’t find anything from Felder suggesting any maintenance. I wouldn’t want to use anything that will turn to mud if it gets dust I’m guessing. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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Re: Lubricating 941 height screws?
Thanks Imran, I should just?take a look behind the panels?also. It makes a pretty constant groaning sound when it goes up and down. James and Brian, is?the 741’s post behind a panel also, or is it open? If it’s open, that makes it easier to lubricate, but also lets?dust get at it easier, necessitating the rubber boot, I’m guessing. James, thanks for the reply 10 days ago with the lube info, just seeing that now!
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On Monday, October 26, 2020, 2:25 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote: Shawn,
i finally got to it. removed the end panels that move with the table. the posts were clean and glistening with lube there is lube at the bottom around each post. so the sound i here must be normal. i can run the table with covers removed and see nothing wrong. there were chips along the side wall that i vacuumed. i am the 2nd owner of this 9 yr old dual51 and i am pretty sure this is factory lube.
imran On Oct 16, 2020, at 6:31 PM, Shawn Kammerer via groups.io <shawnkammerer@...> wrote:
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I’m wondering if there’s something I should be doing to maintain my 941. It works great, but it groans every time I switch between planer and jointer, raising and lowering the tables with the power drive. I bring it up and down about 7” every time, and it sounds like I should lubricate the height screws, but I can’t find anything from Felder suggesting any maintenance. I wouldn’t want to use anything that will turn to mud if it gets dust I’m guessing. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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Re: Lubricating 941 height screws?
No rubber accordion boots over the screws? My 741 has them and they are falling apart, was going to try to figure out a replacement, but if yours are open air like that, maybe not….
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Shawn,
i finally got to it. removed the end panels that move with the table. the posts were clean and glistening with lube there is lube at the bottom around each post. so the sound i here must be normal. i can run the table with covers removed and see nothing wrong. there were chips along the side wall that i vacuumed. i am the 2nd owner of this 9 yr old dual51 and i am pretty sure this is factory lube.
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imran ?
I’m wondering if there’s something I should be doing to maintain my 941. It works great, but it groans every time I switch between planer and jointer, raising and lowering the tables with the power drive. I bring it up and down about 7” every time, and it sounds like I should lubricate the height screws, but I can’t find anything from Felder suggesting any maintenance. I wouldn’t want to use anything that will turn to mud if it gets dust I’m guessing. Any suggestions? Thanks. Shawn
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Re: Lubricating 941 height screws?
Shawn,
i finally got to it. removed the end panels that move with the table. the posts were clean and glistening with lube there is lube at the bottom around each post. so the sound i here must be normal. i can run the table with covers removed and see nothing wrong. there were chips along the side wall that i vacuumed. i am the 2nd owner of this 9 yr old dual51 and i am pretty sure this is factory lube.
imran
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On Oct 16, 2020, at 6:31 PM, Shawn Kammerer via groups.io <shawnkammerer@...> wrote: ?
I’m wondering if there’s something I should be doing to maintain my 941. It works great, but it groans every time I switch between planer and jointer, raising and lowering the tables with the power drive. I bring it up and down about 7” every time, and it sounds like I should lubricate the height screws, but I can’t find anything from Felder suggesting any maintenance. I wouldn’t want to use anything that will turn to mud if it gets dust I’m guessing. Any suggestions? Thanks. Shawn
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